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I seem to recall that McQueen was as disgusted with Hoffman's acting method as was Olivier in Marathon Man.

I heard Trump is considering this. I find it comical. It was built with poor quality concrete. It has been closed and rusting for 60 years after being occuopied by AIM and literally bombed to end that occupation. It is now a federal park and a tourist attraction. It is unfit as a prison and the lawsuits of turning the park into a current prison would be horrendous. To make it a going prison concern agqain would mean total demolition down to the bedrock and construction of a brand new facility. I don't see that happening. maybe trump should look to Catalina. More space for a bigger facility. Or maybe one or several of the Aleutian islands. Imagine trying to escape into those seas.

I wore this frock coat in Washington, before the war. We wore them because we belonged to the five civilized tribes. We dressed ourselves up like Abraham Lincoln. We only got to see the Secretary of the Interior, and he said: "Boy! You boys sure look civilized.!" He congratulated us and gave us medals for looking so civilized. We told him about how our land had been stolen and our people were dying. When we finished he shook our hands and said, "endeavor to persevere!" They stood us in a line: John Jumper, Chili McIntosh, Buffalo Hump, Jim Buckmark, and me — I am Lone Watie. They took our pictures. And the newspapers said, "Indians vow to endeavor to persevere." We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union. I didn't surrender neither. But they took my horse and made him surrender ... they have him pullin' a wagon up in Kansas, I'll bet.

I knew Mary Moriarty. She is partially responsible for the "Plain Feel" doctrine of cases. She once plainly felt my throbber. I was taken aback as I thought her a lesbian. It went no further than her grabbing it while she was drunk, I think out of disgust since it came to be as i was slow dancing with what I sort of presumed to be her date.

Tuco is a great character. I prefer, only slightly, Eli Wallach as Calvera in the Magnificent Seven. When he delivers the line that "If he did not want them sheared, God would not have made them sheep", I love it. Of course Tuco washing his feet in potential drinking water in teh dessert as Clint suffers is classic.

That happens.

The first time I tried to watch I found it ponderous and quit. Years later i watched and enjoyed it. It is not a movie I would have considered recommending to anyone. That said it is McQueen and Hoffman both at their peak.

Did I miss it, or perhaps misremember it? I thought the Supremes ordered the Administration to "facilitate" his return. To me "facilitate" and "effectuate" are two different standards of efforts.

What if he see Papillon this weekend?

They left off the Lew Al and they misspelled cindor.

Maybe we can acquire and reopen Devil's Island.

Because the nature of military service is that it can be unpredictable as to schedules and as to supply logistics. That means regular doses of medications are not assured and as military service entails being essential personnel, even for support personnel who are noncombat personnel, that is a problem if someone becomes unfit to serve at inopportune times. For decades the left has tried to experiment with military service to advance their causes. The thing is military service has one, essential, and overriding goal, and the left needs to understand that. You need to understand that. Sometimes the adults must prevail and this is one of those times. Forget combat roles in war time. Picture a supply flight bringing routine, non-essential supplies to a base a thousand miles from any border or action. Upon landing the plane hits a severe wind shear and crashes, catching fire. The fire suppression personnel are commanded by Madam Twerker who is discommoded by not having her regular doses of everything she needs to keep her crotch wound from closing back up. She has no replacement. The fire suppression crew dispatches without her. They arrive 5 seconds late to the crash site and deploy their equipment 2 seconds longer than it would normally take them with Madam Twerker's supervison and participation. Being understaffed by one person they take an additional 10 seconds to get the jet fuel flames under control. Now imagine one of your family or friends was alive in that wreckage the flames advancing on them. Would that 17 seconds be of relevance? And that is in a non combat zone. Fitness for service is not a new concept and it should not be a political concept. It needs to be a readiness concept. Somehow I imagine you would be 4F but you want to decide who is fit for service which you would never do even were you fit. Leave this one to the adults who know what they are talking about.

I loved Granny Hawkins Granny Hawkins: They say you're a hard put and desperate man, Josey Wales. They're goin' to heel and hide you to a barn door. You know what I say? Josey Wales: What's that? Granny Hawkins: I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat. Now, them poultices be laced with feathermoss and mustard root. Mind you drop water on 'em occasional and keep 'em damp.

I imagine reopening would entail demolition to the rock foundations, below the old civil war foundations. i presume because of the era in which it was built it is full of asbestos and lead based paint and pipes. It would be a huge and expensive undertaking not worth the money for the number of prisoners it would hold. Whether it would be worth it for symbolism, well I leave that to others, but the law and order symbolism would be weighed against the historical loss.

So its not to honor Lynn Dickey?

Or not.

I don't think this thread should be bumped unless and until Rachel Zegler gets nude for cash.

Number 2 yellow Ticonderogas?

Trump's fascination with Alcatraz is probably predicated on the fact that during his lifetime it was still open. It made an impression on his young mind and he assumes that impression resides in the minds of others as a place to be avoided. The thing is, for those under 60 it bears no such symbolism, and for illegals, certainly not. Me. My impressions are shaped by having visited the tourist attraction, having watched the Clint Eastwood movie decades ago, and of course the scene from the movie So I Married and Ax Murderer featuring Phil Hartman as the prison guard/tour guide.

If you truely believe that are you not obligated to take action instead of arguing about it on the internet?

That made me laugh.

But why stop at just the one?

If he wants to repurpose historically notorious prisons currently owned by the Federal government perhaps he should consider Andersonville.

I got up early to drive to Steamboat Springs to raft the Yampa. Along the roadway and along the river I saw antelope, bison, bighorn sheep, elk, a black bear, a moose, eagles, a mink, beaver. Not a bad day. I must say, unless we get suibstantial late season snow it is going to be a dry year for the west. Maybe tuesday's projected weather will help. All the rivers and reservoirs are running unusually low and the snow pack seems very light.

But having seen the route back in, and having seen the timing necessary to pass the dangers could not any competent operator get us in there. I mean we have the blueprint. We don't need Stanley Goodspeed unless there are chemical weapons on the island.