Vote for the Best Team

[Shox 0]

I'm bored and the pace continues to move slowly so please entertain me.

 

Submit 1 vote for the team most likely to win the Superbowl this year.

 

You can't vote for your own team.

 

Tally:

Joeyjoejoe - 2

DD - 1

Chirstgs80 - 1

Gamedayguru - 1

Divine Destruction - 1

Shox - 1

Singman - 1

 

 

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[Shox 0]

Christgs80:

Ladainian Tonlinson RB SDC

Daunte Culpepper QB MINN

Eddie George RB TENN

Torry Holt WR STL

Rod Smith WR DEN

Emmitt Smith RB DAL

Keyshawn Johnson WR TAM

Corey Bradford WR HOU

Miami D/ST

Lamar Gordon RB STL

David Carr QB HOU

Bily Miller TE HOU

Shawn Bryson RB DET

Brian Finneran WR ATL

Matt Stover K BAL

Singman:

Ricky Williams RB MIA

Stephen Davis RB CAR

Joe Horn WR NO

Jerry Porter WR Oak

Jeff Garcia QB SF

T.J. Duckett RB ATL

Troy Brown WR NE

Correll Buckhalter RB PHI

Drew Brees QB SDC

Onterrio Smith RB MIN

Reggie Wayne WR IND

Doug Jolley TE OAK

New England D/ST

Jason Elam K DEN

Robert Ferguson WR GB

 

Gamedayguru:

Clinton Portis RB Den

Corey Dillon RB Cin

Eric Moulds WR Buf

Todd Heap TE BAL

Marty Booker WR CHI

Jimmy Smith WR JAC

Kurt Warner QB STL

Jerome Bettis RB PIT

Jake Plummer QB ARZ

David Akers K PHI

Artose Pinner RB DET

Lee Suggs RB CLE

James Thrash WR PHI

Kelly Holcombe QB CLE

Baltimore D/ST

 

JCW412:

Shaun Alexander RB SEA

Donovan Mcnabb QB PHI

Curtis Martin RB NY

Donald Driver WR GB

Antowain Smith RB NE

Chad Pennington QB NY

Chris Chambers WR MIA

Antonio Bryant WR DAL

Randy Mcmichael TE MIA

Jamel White RB CLE

Steve Smith WR CAR

Maurice Morris RB SEA

Jason Mcaddley WR ARZ

Tim Couch QB CLE

Bryant Johnson WR ARZ

 

Joeyjoejoe:

Priest Holmes RB KC

Charlie Garner RB OAK

Hines Ward WR PIT

Peerless Price WR ATL

Rich Gannon QB OAK

Amani Toomer WR NY

Garrison Hearst RB SF

Tampa D/ST

Justin fargas RB OAK

Adrian Peterson RB CHI

Michael Wiley RB DAL

Kerry Collins QB NYG

Antoine Womack RB NE

Thomas Jones RB ARZ

Jeff Reed K PIT

 

Wuerffel for MVP:

Deuce Mcallister RB NO

Jamal Lewis RB Bal

Peyton Manning QB INDY

Chad Johnson WR CIN

Duce Staley RB PHI

Stacy Mack RB HOU

Jerry Rice WR OAK

Todd PInkston WR PHI

Chris Brown RB TENN

Javon Walker WR GB

Algae Crumpler TE ATL

Marc Boerigter WR KC

Kyle Boller QB BAL

Adam Viniateri K NE

Jon Kitna QB CIN

 

The Moz:

Marshall Faulk RB STL

Fred Taylor RB JAC

Kevan Barlow RB SF

Troy Hambrick RB DAL

Charles Rogers WR DET

Derrick Mason WR TENN

Curtis Conway WR NY

Matt Hassleback QB SEA

Steve Mcnair QB TENN

Tommy Maddox QB PITT

David Terrell WR CHI

Shannon Sharpe TE DEN

Labron Toefield RB JAC

Quentin Griffin RB DEN

Mike Vanderjagt K INDY

 

Captain Lou:

Ahman Green RB GB

William Green RB CLEV

Koren Robinson WR SEA

Lavernoues Coles WR WASH

Aaron Brooks QB NO

Isaac Bruce WR STL

Bubba Franks TE GB

Ashley Lelie WR DEN

Philly D/ST

Mike Alstott RB TAM

Tai Streets WR SF

Carson Palmer QB CIN

Dominick Davis RB HOU

Kenny Watson RB WAS

Kelly Washington WR CIN

Rex Grossman QB CHI

 

Shox:

Travis Henry RB BUF

Edgerrin James RB INDY

Plaxico Buress WR PITT

Tony Gonzalez TE KC

Rod Garner WR WASH

Tom Brady QB NE

Quincy Morgan WR CLE

Patrick Ramsey QB WASH

Willis Mcgahee RB BUF

Dominick Rhodes RB INDY

Deshaun Foster RB CAR

Pittsburgh D/ST

Eddie Kennison WR KC

Brad Johnson QB TAM

Andre Davis WR CLE

Chris Simms QB TAM

 

Uncle Paul:

Michael Vick QB ATL

Terrell Owens WR SF

Trung Canidate RB WASH

Jeremy Shockey TE NY

James Stewart RB DET

Larry Johnson RB KC

Josh Reed WR BUF

Travis Taylor WR BAL

Ladell Betts RB WASH

Santana Moss WR NYJ

Musa Smith RB BAL

Moe Williams RB MIN

Joey Galloway WR DAL

Martin Grammatica K TAM

Atlanta D/ST

Mike Anderson RB DEN

Jake Delhomme QB CAR

 

The Brain:

Michael Bennett RB MIN

Randy Moss WR MINN

Anthony Thomas RB CHI

Donte Stallworth WR NO

Andre Johnson WR HOU

Lamont Jordan RB NY

Drew Bledsoe QB NE

Trent Green QB KC

Jerramy Stevens TE SEA

Byron Leftwich QB JAC

Marc Bulger QB STL

Najeh Davenport RB GB

Tyrone Calico WR TEN

T.J. Smith TE PHI

Jay Feely K ATL

Sebastion Janikowski K OAK

 

Divine Destruction:

Marvin Harrison WR INDY

Tiki Barber RB NY

Amos Zereoue RB PIT

David Boston WR SDC

Michael Pittman RB TAM

Warrick Dunn RB ATL

Darrell Jackson WR SEA

Brett Favre QB GB

Marcell Shipp RB ARZ

Joey Harrington QB DET

Kevin Johnson WR CLE

Marcus Pollard TE INDY

Tim Brown WR OAK

Deion Branch WR NE

Carolina D/ST

[GameDay Guru 1]

My vote goes for Christg....as long as Eddie George shows up this year I think his team will be very tough. All of his starters are solid, should be a consistent team.

[Shox 0]

Divine Destruction

 

Other teams have better starting lineups, especially Joeyjoejoe, but DD depth is best by far. Tiki must produce and Favre must stay healthy. Nice receiver group Harrison, Boston, Jackson, KJ2, Brown, Branch.

[Captain Lou 0]

Are you guys just talking about this year, or for a dynasty team? Makes a difference on what you look at.

[The Moz 69]

I got a little right now ! I would rank the league as such.

 

1. Gamedayguru -- Portis and Dillon should be huge -- then getting Moulds in round 3 was a steal ! If Warner plays to form Game day will tough to beat.

 

2. Wuerffel4MVP --- I hate Manning as a NFL QB but he is a dynamic FF QB -- with 2 great young RB's and budding star CJ -- I really like the Javon Walker pick late -- i think he will be a stud.

 

3. The Moz -- If Faulk and Taylor both play to form and are healthy all year -- with the surprising WR's I was able to snag late I think i got a good chance to pull this out - this year - but my guys aren't getting any younger.

 

 

4. JCW --- If Martin bounces back and A. Smith has his usual odd year surge he will be very decent ! Getting Chambers that late was a coup.

 

5. The Captain -- If the Green Bros. stay healthy he is going to have a great squad as well. He has a great crew of young WR's as well. though Having Brooks might hurt him in the playoffs

 

6. Divine Destruction --- The best Fleet of WR's and a very servicable group of RB's that he can play match up with. Move into Top 5 if Zereoue indeed starts

 

7. Shox -- If Edge is truly back to form move Shox up a few places. His team is solid IMO though I'm not dure of T. Brady going as early as he did.

 

8. Joeyjoejoe --- His Team is Old as dirt but should be a force this year IF Priest is indeed back to 100% ( if so move Joey into the top 5 )

 

9. Singman -- The team is solid top to bottom but besides RW nothing really blows me away -- and S. Davis will be seeing alot 8 - 9 man fronts next year and i don't know if he can hold up very long with all that pounding.

 

10. Uncle Paul --- Even with a very weak RB crew Vick will always keep Uncle P in games. But i just think the weak RB line up will wear on Uncle P as the year progresses and be too much to overcome.

 

11. Christgs80 -- Any team with LT 2 has a chance ! But I just don't see anything else ! DC will get points but will also throw a ton of INTs and Fumbles ( -2 pts a pop - ouch ! ) George is about collapse , and Holt and Rod Smith impressed very little last year.

 

12. The Brain --- Someone had to be last - But [picking M. Bennett in the first round IMO was the worst pick of the draft ! The guy might end up being the next Priest and i will eat crow but thats how i see it. And the Numbers Moss has put up the last 2 years aren't overwhelming either.

 

 

Don't mean to offend anyone here -- this is just 1 mans opinion as I am sure many others here see it very differently. Also I see every team having a shot if things fall right for their team as The teams 1 - 12 are'nt that far apart.

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ]

[Wuerffel for MVP 0]

If Edge returns to his former self, Shox will be unstoppable.

[Shox 0]

Originally posted by Captain Lou:

Are you guys just talking about this year, or for a dynasty team? Makes a difference on what you look at.

 

This year only.

[Uncle P 0]

Originally posted by The Moz:

Don't mean to offend anyone here -- this is just 1 mans opinion as I am sure many others here see it very differently.  Also I see every team having a shot if things fall right for their team as The teams 1 - 12 are'nt that far apart.

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ]

 

 

I'm just glad you didn't put me at 12.

[Uncle P 0]

My vote right now is for singman...top 4 starting rb duo and top 3 starting wr duo.

[singman 0]

Originally posted by Uncle P:

My vote right now is for singman...top 4 starting rb duo and top 3 starting wr duo.

 

Yeah take that. I am the man. What do you want Paul?

[GameDay Guru 1]

Originally posted by Uncle P:

My vote right now is for singman...top 4 starting rb duo and top 3 starting wr duo.

 

Top Three WR Duo?

 

Horn

Porter

T.Brown

 

I see these combos as better:

 

JoeyJoeJoe

H.Ward

P.Price

A.Toomer

 

DD

Harrison

Boston

Jackson

 

Christg80

T.Holt

R.Smith

K. Johnson

 

Just my two cents.

[The Moz 69]

Originally posted by singman:

 

Yeah take that. I am the man. What do you want Paul?

 

Suspecting a little Mo Town favoritism here seriously I think all the teams have an argument to claim themselvs as the ebst -- it should be a great time seeing how it plays out !

[christgs80 0]

I love Joeyjoejoe's team for this year. If Holmes is healthy...watch out.

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: christgs80 ]

[The Moz 69]

Originally posted by GameDay Guru:

 

Top Three WR Duo?

 

Horn

Porter

T.Brown

 

I see these combos as better:

 

JoeyJoeJoe

H.Ward

P.Price

A.Toomer

 

DD

Harrison

Boston

Jackson

 

Christg80

T.Holt

R.Smith

K. Johnson

 

Just my two cents.

 

DD and Joey have the top 2 WR 's everyone else is a toss up depending on what happens.

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: The Moz ]

[singman 0]

Originally posted by GameDay Guru:

 

Top Three WR Duo?

 

Horn

Porter

T.Brown

 

I see these combos as better:

 

JoeyJoeJoe

H.Ward

P.Price

A.Toomer

 

DD

Harrison

Boston

Jackson

 

Christg80

T.Holt

R.Smith

K. Johnson

 

Just my two cents.

 

Dou means 2 big guy. If it was 3 it would be trio. I agree with ward and toomer. I think Price is a bust. I also agree with harrison and Boston for sure. Best dou in the league. I do however think Horn and Porter are better than Holt and rod smith. Horn is top 5 and Porter is a stud waiting to happen. Holt does not score TD's and Rod smith is on his way out. JMO.

[GameDay Guru 1]

Originally posted by singman:

 

Dou means 2 big guy. If it was 3 it would be trio. I agree with ward and toomer. I think Price is a bust. I also agree with harrison and Boston for sure. Best dou in the league. I do however think Horn and Porter are better than Holt and rod smith. Horn is top 5 and Porter is a stud waiting to happen. Holt does not score TD's and Rod smith is on his way out. JMO.

 

"Dou" means two? Never heard of that word.

[singman 0]

Originally posted by GameDay Guru:

 

"Dou" means two? Never heard of that word.

 

Duo! I am dyslexic today maybe! My Bad!

[GameDay Guru 1]

Originally posted by singman:

 

Duo! I am dyslexic today maybe! My Bad!  

 

Ha don't worry about it...I completly read Uncle Paul's post wrong...thought he said you had the top 4 rb's and top 3 wrs....so I commented. Sorry to be a smart ass, but the youngsters of the league need a way to keep up.

[singman 0]

Originally posted by GameDay Guru:

 

Ha don't worry about it...I completly read Uncle Paul's post wrong...thought he said you had the top 4 rb's and top 3 wrs....so I commented. Sorry to be a smart ass, but the youngsters of the league need a way to keep up.

 

You mean I don't have the top 4 RB's and the top 3 WR's?

[DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0]

DD and Divine Destruction are the same team.

 

I would have to vote for Joey for this year, since I cann't vote for myself that is. He had an incredible first 8 picks. However the rest of his draft has sucked IMO. Great starting lineup but 1 injury away from collapse.

[The Moz 69]

Best QB's JCW ( Pennington and McNabb - best by far )

Best RB's The Moz ( Faulk and Taylor - if healthy the best 1 -2 punch in the league )

Best WR's DD ( Harrison , Boston , D-Jax - Joey has a good group too but DD edges him out )

[Uncle P 0]

Originally posted by The Moz:

 

Best RB's  The Moz  ( Faulk and Taylor - if healthy the best 1 -2 punch in the league )

[/QB]

 

That's a huge IF

 

[The Moz 69]

Originally posted by Uncle P:

 

That's a huge IF

 

 

 

IF they are healthy it puts me in great shape to get that First BDL title. If not it puts me in great shape for a 1st or 2nd pick next year ( Gore or or the guy from V-Tech ).

[Captain Lou 0]

Look, I will vote for all of you guys today. Makes me dizzy trying to look into the future. But I do know this, the starting lineup below just may whoop all your A$$E$.

 

Aaron Brooks (* just look at the weapons he has)

 

Ahman Green

( back to 2001 form )

 

William Green

( could be a monster based on

his second half performance last year.

 

L.Coles

( In Spurriers air itout offense, c'mon )

 

K.Robinson

( he and Hasselfoot are on the same page,

a very dangerous guy who can spread the field

 

Issac Bruce

( say waht you want about him, he keeps pace with a younger Holt, and outponts him in

scores

 

Bubba Franks

( no reason to expect less than double digit scores. Favre favorite red zone target.

 

secret weapon at kicker , to be announced

 

Eagles Defense

no matter the schedule, they play with the

best of em every damn week.

 

Plus the fact that this is a dynasty league gentlemen. Throw in Lelie, Streets,Palmer,

Kelly Robinson, Grossman, and a guy who will surprise in Domenik Davis, and all of you are

in for huge surprise for many years to come.

 

So today,I vote for all of you. But starting in September, your A$$ is mine.

 

 

And just one more thing, Trung will bust this year. He is riding a reputation of two and a half great games 2 years ago, against

two and one half horrible defenses trying to keep pace with Holt and Bruce and Warner all over them. And my Ken Watson will once agin outpoint Mr Betts.Just a prediction.

whenit is allover.

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: Captain Lou ]

[DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0]

Here's another way to look at the same team Captain.

 

Aaron Brooks (* just look at the weapons he has to bad he has injured the most important part a quarterback can, his throwing shoulder)

 

Ahman Green

( back to 2001 form or his best years a behing him and he really is a mediocre back)

 

William Green

( could be a monster based on

his second half performance last year or he could be a bust based on his 1st half performance.)

 

L.Coles

( In Spurriers air itout offense, c'mon he is in Spurriers offense--anyone believe in that after witnessing last years collapse)

 

K.Robinson

( he and Hasselfoot are on the same page,

a very dangerous guy who can spread the field but may not be the #1 wr on the team this year and again he plays with an unproven qb)

 

Issac Bruce

( say waht you want about him, he keeps pace with a younger Holt, and outponts him in scores and that really isnt saying much!!!

 

Bubba Franks

( no reason to expect less than double digit scores. Favre favorite red zone target----except he has never scored double digit touchdowns.

 

secret weapon at kicker , to be announced--it is a kicker isnt it(ok then)

 

Eagles Defense

no matter the schedule, they play with the

best of em every damn week--OK ILL GIVE IT TO YOU THEY ARE GOOD, but round 9 and Balt and Carlina are taken in round 15 (wheres the value).

[Captain Lou 0]

Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:

Here's another way to look at the same team Captain.

 

We can play the compare game if you like.

 

Aaron Brooks (* just look at the weapons he has to bad he has injured the most important part a quarterback can, his throwing shoulder)

 

Shoulder is fine as per recent doctors reports as of yesterday. He is ahead of

schedule for a 100% recovey, and fine career.

Still has three more months to get in shape.

 

Unlike your starter Favre who is at the tail

end of a great career. So you have two years to make a top 10 qb out of Harrington.Maybe

he will be,or maybe not.

 

In a true Dynasty league Brooks get the nod

over Favre.

 

 

Ahman Green

( back to 2001 form or his best years a behing him and he really is a mediocre back)

 

Anything is possible,but for a mediocre tailback, the previous season he was a top

running back. His absence last season

certainly had a large affect on the Packers overall success.What we saw in 2001 from Ahman is I believe as good as it gets. But

his producton is ceratinly enough to carry

the number one slot on a fantasy team.

 

Tiki is a player I realy like, and much like Ahman, is as good as he gets. He has been

very lucky to avoid any type of serious inury

to date, but I stil would have to value a healthy Ahman a bit higher on the rankings than Tiki. Most of the fantasy fotball world

does also might I add.

 

 

William Green

( could be a monster based on

his second half performance last year or he could be a bust based on his 1st half performance.)

 

It is never an easy task running for the Browns.I admit it took about 8 games of RBBC

but I think he proved to most that he was adjusting to both the Browns and the NFL just fine. I have seen some Dynasty rankings

actually have him in the 10 slot in terms of keepers.

 

Now the number two back on your squad will be a back up for another season it appears.

He has not proven that he can handle the full time load which many doubt. A great change of pace back to be sure, but the jury is way out there on anything more.

 

Call me insane, but I am leaning toward William Green as the more valuable guy today and tomorrow. But that's just me.

 

L.Coles

( In Spurriers air itout offense, c'mon he is in Spurriers offense--anyone believe in that after witnessing last years collapse)

 

How often in the NFL does a team change it's

entire coaching staff, offensive philosophy,

while bringing in new players at a staggering

rate, then play well enough to win most of

their games, without the services of a top

quality QB, and while their star tail back

is only able to give them half his expected production due to injuries.Any collapse in

their first year should have been expected.

This team will go by way of the QB play this

year. If any of them can chuck it downfield,

Coles is the guy who will get it done.

 

Marvin Harrison, outstanding and best in the

game.An expected pick in the 1.12 slot.

 

K.Robinson

( he and Hasselfoot are on the same page,

a very dangerous guy who can spread the field but may not be the #1 wr on the team this year and again he plays with an unproven qb)

 

Do you honestly believe that a posession receiver like Jackson will be a stud top

10 receiver in the NFL? I seriously doubt this, let alone be the number one in Seattle.

Really looked lost last season, and was actually benched at one point. Not all his fault, but his play was not the qaulity of

his breakout 2001 season. So what hapens now.At best, he is a quality number 3 fantasy receiver whose average draft slot is around the very end of the 5th round in a 12 teamer.Along with the likes of Troy Brown.

 

Robinson is expected to have his breakout year this season. Very highly rated coming out his rookie year. Had trouble(much

like Wiliam Green) making the jump to the pro

level. We saw alot of signs during the 2002

season that proved he was not just an

overated college star. Many of us in the Fantasy World see this as well. None that

I know would consider taking Jackson over

Robinson in any draft. He is being selected

at the Bottom of the third with likes of Driver and Price. Sandwiched between two,

2002 top ten receivers in the entire league.

Call me Crazy Lou, but I have a feeling most

are right aBout this kid and his future.

 

Issac Bruce

( say waht you want about him, he keeps pace with a younger Holt, and outponts him in scores and that really isnt saying much!!!

 

Not saying much. This is my number three receiver. Still has at least 3 good years in him, and I will take his 1000 plus yards and 7 scores every year til he retires.

 

Speaking of retirement, it looks like this could be the swan song season for the great Tim Brown. He is still capable of getting the short quick outs, but Tim proved last season that father time has begun to take it's toll. No longer can he blow away coverage as in years past. The official

2002 stats from Red Eye sports has him ranked as the 140th player, while my guy Bruce with a few years left in the tank comes in at 73 overall, just behind Rod Gardner fo receivers.

 

If I had my druthers, I would have to take

Bruce over Tim Brown in a dynasty league hands down.

 

He's even a better opton than a much younger

KJ junior who will be looking for work next season, or take a giant pay cut and be the number 3 for the Browns.His days ae numbered,

the team simply has better options who are younger and cost less.

 

My young trio of Lelie, Streets, and Kelly

Washington all show great promise in a dynasty format.I will begin the season with

Streets at number 4, and  would not be surprised if he surpasses expectatons of

900 yards and 7 scores.

 

Bubba Franks

( no reason to expect less than double digit scores. Favre favorite red zone target----except he has never scored double digit touchdowns.

 

I know this, I am projecting a minimum of

10 this season. When the running game moves

the football to the redzone, Franks will be

the guy who gets the looks in the endzone.Favre is vey comfortable with him, and always seeks him out.As I said earlier,

the running game took it's toll on the entie offense IMO. Last season he scored seven times, and 9 in his debut season. He is quite capable of getting his 10 this season

with a healthy Ahman grinding out the yards.

 

secret weapon at kicker , to be announced--it is a kicker isnt it(ok then)

 

I don't know guys, I am just not from the school of rafting these guys early and often.

After the first one or two, the next 12 can play pretty close IMO. I know the arguments

regarding bonus scoring, percentages etc.I just can't bring myself to taking one of

these guys while say a rookie like Kelly Washington is staring me in the face. Or

a possible franchise quarterack. I will get

a productive one I am sure.

 

 

Eagles Defense

no matter the schedule, they play with the

best of em every damn week--OK ILL GIVE IT TO YOU THEY ARE GOOD, but round 9 and Balt and Carlina are taken in round 15 (wheres the value).

 

Very good point with regard to value or

the pick. I came into draft beginning with one of three defenses, in the order of Bucs, Dolphins and Eagles.After the first two droped at 6.05 and 7.12,I felt that in order to get the Eagles, I would have to burn an extra 9th rounder because I had traded out of the 10th. My next shot would have been in the 11th, and the EagleS most likely would have fallen before that. So I chose to use the pick I owned at the time. I just wanted them more for the long hall.

 

Let me be perfectly clear, there are

many good teams in this league, and DD is

certainly one of them. We can go up and

down each roster and find problems. None of us have a perfect team regardless of how we feel. We sHould know the true results of this draft in two or three years. I was just pointing out how all of our opinons and rankings differ. And if sounded like an ass

in doing so, this was not my intent. There

are teams much stronger than one thinks when

taking the entire Dynasty format into play.

 

Am I up in the draft yet?

 

 

 

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: Captain Lou ]

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: Captain Lou ]

[DIVINE DESTRUCTION 0]

I didnt say that was my opinion of your team--just another way to look at it (funny get it). First off you forgot Boston, why are you comparing coles and jackson. Jackson will be my 3rd rec. as you said has been drafted in the late 5th rds of most drafts, I got him at the end of the 7th in a dynasty league (he is only 24.

 

Also you compare Bruce and T. Brown. Again I would argue value. Both old focks who are productive none the less. Good for a bye week or when in a pinch. Major difference here you selected bruce in the 6th round I stole brown as my 5th wr in the 13th.

 

My opinion since you seem to want it would be:

Brooks: solid qb taking him cost you gettin a backup running back.

 

A. Green solid rb especially with 1 pt. per rec. I actually like green.

 

W. Green Can understand why you took him but if you wanted him I sure as hell would have gotten some insurance. You will be out of the playoff race if you lose one of these rb's.

 

REMEMBER WE CAN START 3 RB'S ALSO BUT NOT YOU.

 

K. Robinson solid pick but a bit risky seeing how IMO you needed to solidify your rb situation.

 

L. Coles your happy with him, i am not high on him but can see your point. My thinking is he has a solid #2 wr in gardner across from him--could help or hurt. Questionable qb and questionable coach.

 

I. Bruce value question here. Again need help at rb why take someone that you will be able to get equal or close to equal value in the later rounds

 

B. Franks good pick but again value. whos ranked higher franks or pollard. close call in my mind but i will always take either 4 rounds later.

 

Eagles again solid pick but again value. Carolina and balt. in my mind are a tier below but i will always take one of those 2 when i can do so 6 rounds later

 

 

As for the rest of your team I would have to say you have made some real solid picks. Especially with lelie, alstott, streets and grossman. washington could be special also.

 

Overall I believe you have a solid team but it would be greatly stabilized by a strong 3rd rb.

 

I dont take anything as you being an ******* because I could care less one way or the other you have your opinion and everyone else has their own. That is what is great about the draft. Everyone is equal till the season starts then the real trash talking begins

 

[ 05-29-2003: Message edited by: DIVINE DESTRUCTION ]

[Captain Lou 0]

Originally posted by DIVINE DESTRUCTION:

I didnt say that was my opinion of your team--just another way to look at it (funny get it).  First off you forgot Boston, why are you comparing coles and jackson.  Jackson will be my 3rd rec. as you said has been drafted in the late 5th rds of most drafts, I got him at the end of the 7th in a dynasty league (he is only 24.

 

DD, I am sorry for forgetting Boston, I was

looking at picks off my hand written scribble

charts. And I did understand your meaning in

looking at it another way. As I stated, we can do this for every team IMO.

 

With regard to the thought process in taking

Brooks instead of a third back, My draft position basically dictated the selection.

I hoped Gannon would get to me at 5.08, but that was wishful thinking.He fell at 5.05 to

Joey. After Staley went off the board at

5.06 I felt that no other running back on the board had more value than a top 7

or 8 QB.Although Dunn was very tempting,

putting the qb position behind me was a

priority.

 

The other problem I faced was the unpredicted

high value that was placed on running backs in general.This caught me by surprise. I thought I could get a better number three

than Alstott and any of the other two should one of them make noise. By 6.08, my next pick,the only guy left was Bettis. Thinking

Dynasty once again, I took a top tier tight

end which is required scoring position. I felt his 8 or so more years in the league far out weighed Bettis with maybe one last

productive season.

 

I think I have drafted enough ammo at wide reciever, and or Rookie QB thatif I had the desire in the near future to deal for a number 3 back, this can be accomplished quite easily.However, I will not trade away Dynasty players for has beens of today or yesterday.  That is for re-draft leagues IMO.

 

Also you compare Bruce and T. Brown.  Again I would argue value.  Both old focks who are productive none the less.  Good for a bye week or when in a pinch.  Major difference here you selected bruce in the 6th round I stole brown as my 5th wr in the 13th.

 

BROWN was a good pick there, but the guy has

this year and he is most likely gone. he will be 41 I think. Bruce has at least 3 , maybe 4 quality years, There is no comparison

when using these guys for Dynasty.Brown was

a good value pick, he fell because he is old

and will retire. I took Bruce in the 6th

because that is where he goes, and I wanted him.

 

My opinion since you seem to want it would be:   Brooks:  solid qb  taking him cost you gettin a backup running back.

 

I am not sweating it. I can play two running backs every week, or trade easily enough for third. The value at running back was not there.

 

A. Green  solid rb especially with 1 pt. per rec.  I actually like green.

 

W. Green  Can understand why you took him but if you wanted him I sure as hell would have gotten some insurance.  You will be out of the playoff race if you lose one of these rb's.

 

I actually targeted Davenport to possibly protect Ahman. But lost him shortly before my pick. hey, $hit happens.

 

REMEMBER WE CAN START 3 RB'S ALSO BUT NOT YOU.

 

Are you saying that Allstott could not play

flex if Ilike the match up. The guy has been banging out 900 to 1000 for a few years with

9 or 10 scores to go with it. He did have an

off year in 2002, but in no way do I think he is finished.

 

K. Robinson  solid pick but a bit risky seeing how IMO you needed to solidify your rb situation.

 

L. Coles  your happy with him, i am not high on him but can see your point.  My thinking is he has a solid #2 wr in gardner across from him--could help or hurt.  Questionable qb and questionable coach.  

 

I. Bruce  value question here.  Again need help at rb why take someone that you will be able to get equal or close to equal value in the later rounds

 

I simply like the wide open offense, and he is a proven player to fall back on with my

young wide receiver corps. The only guy I had in his tier had I passed on him was Keyshaun who would not have made it to 7.

7.08, he went at 7.01.

 

B. Franks  good pick but again value.  whos ranked higher franks or pollard.  close call in my mind but i will always take either 4 rounds later.

 

Pollard is over 30, and Dallas Clark willmake him a forgotton man in the not so distant future. Franks was by far a better Dynast value. Just consider the age.

 

Eagles  again solid pick but again value.  Carolina and balt. in my mind are a tier below but i will always take one of those 2 when i can do so 6 rounds later

 

I gave you my reasons earlier why I could not take the Eagles in the 10th, and would have lost them at 11.05. Getting them where I did was fine by me.  

 

 

As for the rest of your team I would have to say you have made some real solid picks.  Especially with lelie, alstott, streets and grossman.  washington could be special also.

 

Overall I believe you have a solid team but it would be greatly stabilized by a strong 3rd rb.  

 

Agreed, and this will happen.

 

 

I dont take anything as you being an ******* because I could care less one way or the other you have your opinion and everyone else has their own.   That is what is great about the draft.  Everyone is equal till the season starts then the real trash talking begins

 

Your a good man who knows football DD,and I have enjoyed the conversation.

 

So when do I play your team?

 

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[Captain Lou 0]

Originally posted by Shox:

I'm bored and the pace continues to move slowly so please entertain me.

 

Submit 1 vote for the team most likely to win the Superbowl this year.  

 

You can't vote for your own team.

 

Tally:

Joeyjoejoe - 2

DD - 1

Chirstgs80 - 1

Gamedayguru - 1

Divine Destruction - 1

Shox - 1

Singman - 1

               

 

           DEMOLITION

 

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