****the official - Nick Saban is a Putz thread****

[Exit 160 0]

Damn man - Nick Saban killed me, not Heath Miller. He should have thrown that red flag out there earlier and not hesitat. My opponent had Heath Miller and that play alone gave him 29 points. What a Putz

[ppierce 2]

I agree! He was completely out coached by a Super Bowl winning coach. It was so evident. He abandoned the run completely, was very hesitant in throwing that flag. I don't think he wanted to but people were probably in his ear.

[swamp dog 0]

so saban throws the flag and the your opponent gets 23 points instead of 29. so what.

 

and that play didn't cost the dolphins the game. so they review it and put it at the 1. big, hairy deal.

[Bad_Mo_focher 1]

Man, someone needs to show Sally Saban how to throw that flag with authority.

 

Hey - Saban doesn't care about wins or losses anyway. Mmmmkay?

[yostevo 0]

so saban throws the flag and the your opponent gets 23 points instead of 29. so what.

 

and that play didn't cost the dolphins the game. so they review it and put it at the 1. big, hairy deal.

 

It's a tip that Pittsburgh was at the one and fumbled it away. You never know what could happen. Penalties, turnovers, defensive stand which holds them to a FG attempt. Bottomline is Saban choked at a critical moment and didn't give his team the best oppurtunity to win that game. You can't make mistakes like that on the road and win games, much less against the defending SB champs.

[Exit 160 0]

WOW! thats a great way to look at it!!!

 

 

so saban throws the flag and the your opponent gets 23 points instead of 29. so what.

 

and that play didn't cost the dolphins the game. so they review it and put it at the 1. big, hairy deal.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Man, someone needs to show Sally Saban how to throw that flag with authority.

What was up with the double pump? Lost him a couple of seconds, idiot.

[wizbang 10]

It's a tip that Pittsburgh was at the one and fumbled it away. You never know what could happen. Penalties, turnovers, defensive stand which holds them to a FG attempt. Bottomline is Saban choked at a crititcal moment and didn't give his team the best oppurtunity to win that game. You can't make mistakes like that on the road and win games, much less against the defending SB champs.

 

Nice post. Fantasy football aside you just HAVE to challenge that play. He had PLENTY of time to throw that flag and his booth was undoubtedly telling him he would win. Saban looked indecisive, almost like he wanted to let the score stand so that he could save time on the clock. He ultimately decided to do the right thing but a HC has to see the logic better than that. Pitt fumbled at the 1 earlier in the game. They could maybe have held Pitt to a FG, keeping the lead down to one score.

 

With that said, the refs have no excuse for ignoring Saban. They took away the button so all he has is the red flag. So he throws the flag and *nobody* is looking? That is absurd. Why even have replay.

[itsjscott 0]

With that said, the refs have no excuse for ignoring Saban. They took away the button so all he has is the red flag. So he throws the flag and *nobody* is looking? That is absurd. Why even have replay.

 

He threw the flag maybe 2 seconds before the snap went off... you're telling me that the dolphin's booth didn't have time to see a replay and tell him to throw the flag right away? BS. He shouldn't have beeen a numbnuts and waited that long... i guess he learned the hard way. Plus, this is the first time in years without the button that this has happened... every other coach in the league seems to do alright.

[kutulu 1,625]

He threw the flag maybe 2 seconds before the snap went off... you're telling me that the dolphin's booth didn't have time to see a replay and tell him to throw the flag right away? BS. He shouldn't have beeen a numbnuts and waited that long... i guess he learned the hard way. Plus, this is the first time in years without the button that this has happened... every other coach in the league seems to do alright.

 

I knew it was not a TD as it happened watching on TV....course I wanted them to kick the extra point quick since I started Miller in all three of my leagues, but still, the PITT coaches upstairs couldn't see what I saw on TV?

[kin-corn-karn 0]

He threw the flag maybe 2 seconds before the snap went off... you're telling me that the dolphin's booth didn't have time to see a replay and tell him to throw the flag right away? BS. He shouldn't have beeen a numbnuts and waited that long... i guess he learned the hard way. Plus, this is the first time in years without the button that this has happened... every other coach in the league seems to do alright.

 

Your post says it all... 2 seconds before the snap went off. That's 2 seconds before he had to throw it. Sure, he shouldn't have hesitated, but it is the referee's job to see the flag. The refs screwed up, not Saban.

 

However, I don't know why the replays kept showing the guy facing away from Saban... Obviously he's not going to see the flag, but there should have been another ref watching.

[GobbleDog 918]

As a Dolphin fan, even I have to agree that Saban blew it. Half assed throwing the red flag behind the ref, 1 second before the extra point... he's got nothing to b*tch about. He screwed himself.

 

But I doubt it really would have mattered. Odds are PIT scores on the following couple plays anyway.

[plasma george 62]

WOW! thats a great way to look at it!!!

Fantasy wise, no it's not.

87 yard TDs aren't huge bonuses in your system.

That was a 12point TD (double bubble for over 75 yards)

He got 18 points for the night, reverse the call, Heather gets 6 points (101 yards), a 12 point swing for bonehead Saban not waving his focking hands.

That's pretty huge when the average score in our system will be 50-60.

[wizbang 10]

He threw the flag maybe 2 seconds before the snap went off... you're telling me that the dolphin's booth didn't have time to see a replay and tell him to throw the flag right away? BS. He shouldn't have beeen a numbnuts and waited that long... i guess he learned the hard way. Plus, this is the first time in years without the button that this has happened... every other coach in the league seems to do alright.

 

Try a little reading comprehension next time. I adressed that earlier in my post... hence the "With that said" line.

 

The system is that he has until the snap to throw a red flag. He has NO other options so 2 second before the snap he throws the red flag and nobody is looking? WTF! That is seriously bizarre.

[Exit 160 0]

I was being facetious (check spelling)

 

Fantasy wise, no it's not.

87 yard TDs aren't huge bonuses in your system.

That was a 12point TD (double bubble for over 75 yards)

He got 18 points for the night, reverse the call, Heather gets 6 points (101 yards), a 12 point swing for bonehead Saban not waving his focking hands.

That's pretty huge when the average score in our system will be 50-60.

[Spartans91 0]

I think the Dolphins real crime last night was not sticking with Ronnie Brown. On their last TD drive, Brown ran for 2, 5, 8, and 5 yards for the TD. 4 carries, 20 yards. The next position, they throw on 7 of the first 8 plays (with the lead at this point) and Brown is not a factor on the ground the rest of the 4th quarter. I discuss this and more regarding last night's game on my blog (link below).

[itsjscott 0]

Try a little reading comprehension next time. I adressed that earlier in my post... hence the "With that said" line.

 

The system is that he has until the snap to throw a red flag. He has NO other options so 2 second before the snap he throws the red flag and nobody is looking? WTF! That is seriously bizarre.

 

Easy there Wizbang, i was just trying to point out that he shouldn't have tried to sneak the flag onto the field like that so close to the time of the snap. He should take a page from Cowher's book... Cowher makes a production out of throwing the flag, with a full happy gilmore run up into a pitcher's windup, ending with a long heave.

 

I never said that he shouldn't have gotten the review... obviously the refs blew the call. That said, is it the ref's responsibility to be watching Nick Saban to see if he'll throw a flag? Or, should they instead be watching the pre-snap play for false starts, illegal substitutions, illegal formations, too many men on the field, etc.? Should we have a ref dedicated to watching to see if a red flag gets thrown onto the field? In my mind, it is the Head Coach's job to make sure that the refs see the red flag. Saban just shouldn't mess around with calling for a review like that.

[hawk82 0]

How many refs does it take to watch a freakin' extra point anyway? One of them should have expected the flag!!!!

[Dan 62]

Try a little reading comprehension next time. I adressed that earlier in my post... hence the "With that said" line.

 

The system is that he has until the snap to throw a red flag. He has NO other options so 2 second before the snap he throws the red flag and nobody is looking? WTF! That is seriously bizarre.

 

In reading after game comments from the officials, they were waiting for the flag to be thrown. In fact, they delayed the extra point as long as they reasonably could, trying to give him that time. Then when they settle into officiating the play at hand, Saban throws the flag behind the nearest official and doesn't even say anything? Come on. That one's on Saban. Yeah, the refs blew the call initially, but Saban has got to be more assertive.

 

I told my wife during the broadcast that he should have thrown it at the ref's head.

 

And another poster suggested that Cowher had the method down perfectly - throw it, scream and spit on the official until they blow the whistle in fear. (Okay, so I modified. )

[Bert 1,125]

The best part of this whole deal were Maddens comments after Collingsworth came up to the both to explain the rule.

 

Madden: "You mean the coach can run on the field! Heck I may come back."

 

Collingsworth implying Madden was old and slow and Saben would be much quicker.

 

Madden: " Yeah, but I guarantee they would know I was out there on the field."

[Parkers99 0]

All I know is that Saban looked a litle light in the loafers when he tossed the flag.

[swirvenirvin 25]

ive hated this c0cksucking f@ggaot ever since he left MSU.. He can rot in hell for all I care

[jgcrawfish 232]

All I know is that Saban looked a litle light in the loafers when he tossed the flag.

 

LOL. Yeah, he had some sugar in his back pocket and walking with a lisp slowed him down...and oh, that arm strength...I bet Jeff Garcia was wishin he was on the Fin's roster. Pennington throws farther than Saban!!!

[thebook 1]

I think Saban should have thrown a second replay flag to challenge the fact the he threw his first flag on time.

[gemynd 0]

With that said, the refs have no excuse for ignoring Saban. They took away the button so all he has is the red flag. So he throws the flag and *nobody* is looking? That is absurd. Why even have replay.

 

This is why I think the challenge system should be scrapped. Why not have an official in the booth whose sole purpose is looking at the plays on the monitor. If he sees something this obvious, he notifies the referee and he reviews it.

[cribdog 0]

This is why I think the challenge system should be scrapped. Why not have an official in the booth whose sole purpose is looking at the plays on the monitor. If he sees something this obvious, he notifies the referee and he reviews it.

Sounds a bit like the college rule...which is much better!

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

Yep, Saban is a PUTZ!!!

 

But the Stillers were all fired up after that

 

I can't wait to play against MIA again

[yostevo 0]

The refs should have thrown a pink flag on Saban for "intentional attempt to throw like a f@g".

[Neek 0]

The refs should have thrown a pink flag on Saban for "intentional attempt to throw like a f@g".

 

I have FWP, 1st and 1 at the 1 was looking pretty freaking good. I was screaming at Saban to throw the GD flag.

[ricanrockers 39]

Damn man - Nick Saban killed me, not Heath Miller. He should have thrown that red flag out there earlier and not hesitat. My opponent had Heath Miller and that play alone gave him 29 points. What a Putz

 

 

Did you see how long he waited? He took a couple of steps on the field then throws if like 5 feet in front of him. Everyone has their back towards him. What a dope!!!

 

If that was Parcells, he would've been screaming to stop the play or he would've gone on the field where the ref was and thrown the flag at him.

 

This loss is definitely on Saban and staff. With that Miller TD allowed it forced the Dolphins and Culpepper into a passing mode, forgetting the run and trying to force the passes in there. They have some work ahead but it's something all teams go through especially with a new QB.

[RLLD 3,928]

he is sorta silly, but he is no Mike Martz

[ricanrockers 39]

This is why I think the challenge system should be scrapped. Why not have an official in the booth whose sole purpose is looking at the plays on the monitor. If he sees something this obvious, he notifies the referee and he reviews it.

 

 

 

I like that idea. It would also save teams timeout at the end of games where they lost them due to challenges.