J5 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Would you take Addai over LJ this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nlgb1 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Would you take Addai over LJ this year? ....no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zackattack 0 Posted July 3, 2007 I have considered it if I was picking 4-5. I like Addai this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 3, 2007 wow. at this rate addai will be the #1 overall pick by August. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted July 3, 2007 wow. at this rate addai will be the #1 overall pick by August. i'm in a startup dynasty league this year. i think #4 or 5 would be perfect to take either addai or bush as the cornerstone to a team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawgWild 0 Posted July 3, 2007 I like Addai this year also but over LJ may be a little early.. The only thing that worries me about LJ is the potential holdout so if that happens Addai could move up but at this point I would lean towards LJ over Addai.. But I do like Addai in the top 5 or so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted July 3, 2007 i would take about 25 or 30 guys before LJ this year, so....... yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 3, 2007 I would take Addai over LJ. Although I would probably try to trade down a spot or two, let someone else take LJ and see if I could get Addai plus change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Would you take Addai over LJ this year? I think LJ will put up better numbers this year than Addai but after that, who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r8drzrule 0 Posted July 4, 2007 I would take Addai over LJ. Although I would probably try to trade down a spot or two, let someone else take LJ and see if I could get Addai plus change. spot on, same here. try to trade down, if no takers i go addai. a back is only as good as his line and the loss of sheilds and roaf will have a bigger effect on LJ than people think. meanwhile, addai is in indy where a back gets 5 yds downfield before he is even touched. just ask edge how good that indy line is and how important the oline is to a runningback. not saying kc's oline will be as bad as the turdinals. but without sheilds and roaf, its not going to be that much better! JMTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
traders2001 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Not even close, Addai is so overrated it s incredible . Take him in the first round and you will be disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruphus 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Personally I would take Addai over LJ, but this doesn't mean I would make Addai a top 5 pick. His best value is still from 5-10 range. I just personally wouldn't want LJ in the first round. Way to many things around LJ and KC in general to believe he's a "sure fire 1st round choice" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted July 4, 2007 If it's a PPR league, I think so. I see Addai getting a lot of receptions this year. I remember Edge being the beneficiary from a lot of dump off passes from Manning back in the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmleonard 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Personally I would take Addai over LJ, but this doesn't mean I would make Addai a top 5 pick. His best value is still from 5-10 range. I just personally wouldn't want LJ in the first round. Way to many things around LJ and KC in general to believe he's a "sure fire 1st round choice" Right on. I'll be avoiding LJ like the plague this year, and I wouldn't take Addai top 5 either unless it is a keeper league. LJ could be gold like usual, but....Holdout, run into the ground the last couple years, Croyle at qb, no Shields, a lb converted to FB. Just too many ??'s for me to burn a high pick on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Right on. I'll be avoiding LJ like the plague this year, and I wouldn't take Addai top 5 either unless it is a keeper league. LJ could be gold like usual, but....Holdout, run into the ground the last couple years, Croyle at qb, no Shields, a lb converted to FB. Just too many ??'s for me to burn a high pick on him. Since you wouldn't take Addai in your top 5, I'm assuming it would be LT2 SJax Gore Alexander Westbrook I'm just curious what other RBs you would have listed above Addai. I have the 1st pick in one draft and the 8th in others, so I doubt Addai would fall that far anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmleonard 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Since you wouldn't take Addai in your top 5, I'm assuming it would be LT2 SJax Gore Alexander Westbrook I'm just curious what other RBs you would have listed above Addai. I have the 1st pick in one draft and the 8th in others, so I doubt Addai would fall that far anyway. It depends if it is ppr. It's not that I don't think Addai can put up top 5 #'s. He is in a great position to do so. I prefer to play it a little safer than most with my 1st rd pick. Bust that one and you are usually in trouble. Don't want a Kevin Jones, Caddy, Ronnie Brown, etc. I'd rather be a year late than a year early when it comes to a top pick. If I had to rank em, I'd probably put LJ at #4, but I personally wouldn't grab him. If he would fall to me at 5, I'd take someone else. I'm just not willing to put that much risk out there. Just the way I roll, I guess. LT2 SJax Gore LJ Westbrook/Parker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted July 5, 2007 It depends if it is ppr. It's not that I don't think Addai can put up top 5 #'s. He is in a great position to do so. I prefer to play it a little safer than most with my 1st rd pick. Bust that one and you are usually in trouble. Don't want a Kevin Jones, Caddy, Ronnie Brown, etc. I'd rather be a year late than a year early when it comes to a top pick. If I had to rank em, I'd probably put LJ at #4, but I personally wouldn't grab him. If he would fall to me at 5, I'd take someone else. I'm just not willing to put that much risk out there. Just the way I roll, I guess. LT2 SJax Gore LJ Westbrook/Parker Thanks. Since I doubt Addai will fall to the 8th spot, I'm looking at other options. If by chance he's still available in the 8th pick, I'm picking him up in a heartbeat. One league is PPR and the other is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmleonard 0 Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks. Since I doubt Addai will fall to the 8th spot, I'm looking at other options. If by chance he's still available in the 8th pick, I'm picking him up in a heartbeat. One league is PPR and the other is not. I've seen him fall to 8th in about 30% of my mocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 202 Posted July 5, 2007 I may lean towards Addai if he gets all the goaline TD's and there is no threat of a vulture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J5 0 Posted July 5, 2007 Here is my situation. I am in a 12 team 2 player keeper league and have LT, LJ, and Addai. I think either of these guys is a great #2 but I am torn with keeping LJ or trying to trade him for a 4th or 5th round pick and keeping Addai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 5, 2007 picking 5th this year. have done a few mocks and LJ is actually starting to drop to me once in awhile. guys taking gore, addai, and/or alexander ahead of him. i really hope the addai hype continues. i like him but i'd rather get LJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted July 5, 2007 thought about it some more, and yup. Addai is still overrated... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBX 0 Posted July 5, 2007 this thread cracks me up, its amazing how addai has become overhyped. Over LJ????puleeez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted July 5, 2007 Seriously, what is to like about LJ this year? He may holdout; he has an unproven QB; his offensive line has taken another retirement hit; he had over 400 carries last year; he has Herm Edwards as his coach. What am I missing here? Pease tell me why LJ is a top 4 pick this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 5, 2007 this thread cracks me up, its amazing how addai has become overhyped. Over LJ????puleeez. Addai is in a much better offense, Addai probably has a better o-line too, Addai has much less wear and tear on him, both players have arguably equal talent (both drafted in the late first round), both players have looked good in the opportunities they have had. What's so crazy about Addai over LJ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 5, 2007 Addai is in a much better offense, Addai probably has a better o-line too, Addai has much less wear and tear on him, both players have arguably equal talent (both drafted in the late first round), both players have looked good in the opportunities they have had. What's so crazy about Addai over LJ? that would be an interesting argument.........about the "equal" talent that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBX 0 Posted July 5, 2007 my thing is there is a lot of TD's being scored by other players in Indy (wrs) even in the redzone. LJ will score a majority of TDs in KC, and while i'll agree about the O-line, its not like he had a great QB last year, and im not really worried about a holdout (in season) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted July 5, 2007 that would be an interesting argument.........about the "equal" talent that is. LJ ypc last year: 4.3 Addai ypc last year: 4.8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawgWild 0 Posted July 5, 2007 LJ 19 TD's last year Addai 8 TD's last year I like Addai this year but it would be hard for me to take him over LJ.. Unless LJ is holding out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bno70_1 0 Posted July 5, 2007 You'd never actually take Addai over LJ. If you wanted Addai, then you should trade back to like pick 5 or so and let the LT, SJ, LJ, Gore fellows have theirs, while you get Addai as well as an extra player or draft pick. Or, you could just stay put and draft the guy who scored like 19 Td's last year. That would work too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 5, 2007 LJ ypc last year: 4.3 Addai ypc last year: 4.8 Hey, haven't I heard you on AM talk radio? Yeah, you've got that political talk show that's slanted severely right or severely left? No big picture needed. Just pull the stats that sell your agenda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 5, 2007 You'd never actually take Addai over LJ. If you wanted Addai, then you should trade back to like pick 5 or so and let the LT, SJ, LJ, Gore fellows have theirs, while you get Addai as well as an extra player or draft pick. In that position, I would try to trade down, but if I couldn't, I would most certainly take Addai over LJ. Or, you could just stay put and draft the guy who scored like 19 Td's last year. That would work too. "last year" being the key phrase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruphus 0 Posted July 5, 2007 LJ had a backup named Michael Bennett.... and scored 18 TD's with a decent, but fading OL. Addai scored 8 TDs with Rhodes getting roughluy 50% of the Indy RB production, and was actually behind Rhodes on the depth chart for a good bit of last season. Rhodes also put up 5 TDs, 641 rush yds and 241 rec yds. Combine that with the 1081 rush yds and 325 rec yds Addai got, and your looking at the makings of a beast at RB. Was Edge not a top 4 pick when he was in Indy? Oh yeah, what part of KC's offensive unit makes you think they will get LJ another chance to score 20ish TDs? Is it the dynamic QB combo of Huard and Croyle? Or the stud WRs known as Kennison, Samie Parker and Dwayne Bowe? Or is it this new OL consisting of future HoFers Brian Waters, Casey Wiegmann, Chris Terry, Tre Stallings, Herb Taylor, George Batiste, Chris Bober, Will Svitek, James Newby, Rob Hunt, Ramiro Pruneda, Damion Mcintosh, Kevin Sampson or John Welbourne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 5, 2007 LJ ypc last year: 4.3 Addai ypc last year: 4.8 Hey, haven't I heard you on AM talk radio? Yeah, you've got that political talk show that's slanted severely right or severely left? No big picture needed. Just pull the stats that sell your agenda. I notice you didn't post the same response to HawgWild's TD stat post. I guess it's ok as long as the person is on the same side of the argument as you. If you think it's so preposterous to say that Addai is arguably equally as talented as LJ, then why don't you tell us why you are convinced that LJ is more talented? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 5, 2007 LJ 19 TD's last year Addai 8 TD's last year I like Addai this year but it would be hard for me to take him over LJ.. Unless LJ is holding out... Hey, haven't I heard you on AM talk radio? Yeah, you've got that political talk show that's slanted severely right or severely left? No big picture needed. Just pull the stats that sell your agenda. Hey, haven't I heard you on AM talk radio? Yeah, you've got that political talk show that's slanted severely right or severely left? No big picture needed. Just pull the stats that sell your agenda. I notice you didn't post the same response to HawgWild's TD stat post. I guess it's ok as long as the person is on the same side of the argument as you. If you think it's so preposterous to say that Addai is arguably equally as talented as LJ, then why don't you tell us why you are convinced that LJ is more talented? happy now? (td's talk more than ypc in my league. how about yours?) ETA Addai only has one year under his belt so let's consider the college careers of the 2. LJ dropped in the 1st round and there's gotta be a good 15-20 teams kicking themselves for not taking him in that draft right now. Is that the case with addai or is addai a product of the system he's in? Was addai considered an equal talent to johnson coming into the nfl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted July 5, 2007 happy now? Better, albeit a bit late. (td's talk more than ypc in my league. how about yours?) Oh, we are talking about our respective fantasy leagues now? I thought we were talking about which back is more talented. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted July 5, 2007 Oh, we are talking about our respective fantasy leagues now? I thought we were talking about which back is more talented. My bad. td's talk more than ypc in the nfl. there. happy now? damn, you're high maintenance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted July 5, 2007 Here is my situation. I am in a 12 team 2 player keeper league and have LT, LJ, and Addai. And this is why I don't play in keeper leagues ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 5, 2007 Honestly that would be a real b!tch for me to decide. I'd consider punting on both and grabbing Gore. if I'm taking a chance, I might as well be a homer and get the guy I want to root for every week. The fact is that I've been on the "number of carries last year doesn't matter" side of the fence on the whole, "will LJ get hurt" topic for months. But when the holdout talks started I became concerned. when I started looking at the KC O-Line I remained concerned. When I think about the HC's track record, and looked at the Chief's QB & WR situation I became really, really concerned. I have LJ in the 1st round, but it would have to be mid-round before I risked a pick on him....thinking of course about the WCOFF, where that 1st pick costs roughly $1700 - when that kind of rubber hits the road it gives one pause. I just don't know if I'll have the balls to pull the trigger on LJ with that kind of scratch on the line. Time will tell - if he doesn't hold out, I could see investing in him. if he does I'll let someone else take the sizable risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites