Should 2 Pt. Conversion Score for the Special Teams Unit?

[jcuadrado 0]

Lost by a pt.... RT Sports counted the 2 point conversion from Kerry Collins to Arhmad Hall as a Special Teams play. So Kerry Collins, Hall and the Tennessee Special Teams got 2 points.

 

Is that right? Not #####ing or moaning.....I'm just curious. The way I see it is why wouldn't the Special Teams get 1 pt after a regular extra point kick then? They are on the field when it happens. For the 2 point conversion the offense is on the field....I say offense because their is a QB, RB, WRs, etc.

 

Any insight will be appreciated.

 

BTW...league D/ST rules have 1 rule defined which is:

 

Kickoff and Punt Return TDs = 6 pts. That's it.

[Phurfur 70]

Lost by a pt.... RT Sports counted the 2 point conversion from Kerry Collins to Arhmad Hall as a Special Teams play. So Kerry Collins, Hall and the Tennessee Special Teams got 2 points.

 

Is that right? Not #####ing or moaning.....I'm just curious. The way I see it is why wouldn't the Special Teams get 1 pt after a regular extra point kick then? They are on the field when it happens. For the 2 point conversion the offense is on the field....I say offense because their is a QB, RB, WRs, etc.

 

Any insight will be appreciated.

 

BTW...league D/ST rules have 1 rule defined which is:

 

Kickoff and Punt Return TDs = 6 pts. That's it.

 

 

Read your rules, this shouldn't be a surprise to you.

 

I don't know any league that works that way.

[plasma george 62]

Sure shouldn't seem like it by those rules.

We don't "double dip" for anything.

 

Special teams score special teams TDs, when Special teams are on the field.

IE....KO returns, punt returns, blocked punts, etc.

 

Offensive players score offensive points when the offense is on the field.

IE....rushing TDs, receiving TDs, yards, passing, etc.

 

I don't understand why leagues feel double dipping is better.....we used to, but changed years ago, and I don't hear anyone ever say they want to go back....we used to refer to it as "Joey Galloway Rule" when he was on offense and special teams for SEA.

[Lion Fan 0]

Not sure how your league is set up...but I use RTsports and the Titans earned 5pts last night:

 

Tennessee Titans 21 total points allowed (1.00 pts)

Tennessee Titans 2 interceptions (4.00 pts)

 

 

We use D/ST combined. So, there must be a "special" allocation your commish can choose.

[plasma george 62]

Not sure how your league is set up...but I use RTsports and the Titans earned 5pts last night:

 

Tennessee Titans 21 total points allowed (1.00 pts)

Tennessee Titans 2 interceptions (4.00 pts)

We use D/ST combined. So, there must be a "special" allocation your commish can choose.

Why on earth does a D/STs get any points for giving up 21 points ?

[Lion Fan 0]

Lost by a pt.... RT Sports counted the 2 point conversion from Kerry Collins to Arhmad Hall as a Special Teams play. So Kerry Collins, Hall and the Tennessee Special Teams got 2 points.

 

Is that right? Not #####ing or moaning.....I'm just curious. The way I see it is why wouldn't the Special Teams get 1 pt after a regular extra point kick then? They are on the field when it happens. For the 2 point conversion the offense is on the field....I say offense because their is a QB, RB, WRs, etc.

 

Any insight will be appreciated.

 

BTW...league D/ST rules have 1 rule defined which is:

 

Kickoff and Punt Return TDs = 6 pts. That's it.

 

 

Look under passing Category:

 

I think you should see ST (where I only have QB's, RB's, WR's TE's, K's):

 

Category Passing Rule Modified

Scores 2 rules defined:

For position: QB's, RBs, WRs, TEs, Ks

6.0 point(s) for each touchdown.

2.0 point(s) for each 2-point conversion.

[Lion Fan 0]

Why on earth does a D/STs get any points for giving up 21 points ?

 

 

Here is the full list. Please help me define how I run my league:

12.0 bonus points for shutout.

7.0 point(s) for 1 to 7 points allowed.

4.0 point(s) for 8 to 14 points allowed.

1.0 point(s) for 15 to 21 points allowed.

0.0 point(s) for 22 to 27 points allowed.

-1.0 point(s) for 28 to 35 points allowed.

-4.0 point(s) for 36 to 49 points allowed.

-9.0 point(s) for 50 to 999 points allowed.

 

BTW: Average score by team in NFL for 2007 was 21.7. So, 21 points is better than average. So +1

[Phurfur 70]

Why on earth does a D/STs get any points for giving up 21 points ?

 

Maybe because it is better than giving up 34 points.

[jcuadrado 0]

ahhh...found the ridiculous rule...(since it never affected my games I never noticed)

 

Commish checked for 2 point conversions to basically give the points to everyone - QB, RB, WR, TE, K, and DST.

 

Pretty hilarious where a Special Teams Unit gets points when they aren't on the field.

 

Amazing.

[plasma george 62]

Here is the full list. Please help me define how I run my league:

12.0 bonus points for shutout.

7.0 point(s) for 1 to 7 points allowed.

4.0 point(s) for 8 to 14 points allowed.

1.0 point(s) for 15 to 21 points allowed.

0.0 point(s) for 22 to 27 points allowed.

-1.0 point(s) for 28 to 35 points allowed.

-4.0 point(s) for 36 to 49 points allowed.

-9.0 point(s) for 50 to 999 points allowed.

 

BTW: Average score by team in NFL for 2007 was 21.7. So, 21 points is better than average. So +1

I'm not, just another opinion.....I do like how it goes negative on the high end. I don't think any points should be rewarded for 3 TDs though. A windy, rainy day could have just as much effect on a low scoring game....why look to reward it ?

 

For instance, we don't award any points against unless it's under 10, and only 1/2 points for sack, INTand FUM.

We've reduced the DST scoring impact...and have had several owners voting to eliminate them all together due to being the most unpredictable. The Old School guys are on the other side.

[Casey71 0]

Field goal unit is offense. It's an offensive play, not a ST/D. Two point conversion is offensive as well.

[FrankRizzo 0]

Field goal unit is offense. It's an offensive play, not a ST/D. Two point conversion is offensive as well.

 

Exactly ... big debate a few years ago when Vinateri threw a TD instead of a FG when he noticed no CB.

I won by the extra couple of points and my opponent made a big stank about it ... but it's the kickers points, not ST.

 

I wonder if this guy's league also awards FG points to ST then? Double dippin not good ...

I think it's dumb when somebody has the Saints D/ST going up against the Reggie Bush owner and when Reggie takes it to the house they both get the points. If you play a Team D/ST then no way should an individual player on ST get points too .. only in IDP leagues should this happen ... IMO.

[plasma george 62]

Exactly ... big debate a few years ago when Vinateri threw a TD instead of a FG when he noticed no CB.

I won by the extra couple of points and my opponent made a big stank about it ... but it's the kickers points, not ST.

 

I wonder if this guy's league also awards FG points to ST then? Double dippin not good ...

I think it's dumb when somebody has the Saints D/ST going up against the Reggie Bush owner and when Reggie takes it to the house they both get the points. If you play a Team D/ST then no way should an individual player on ST get points too .. only in IDP leagues should this happen ... IMO.

I guess "football rules" can be varied in Fantasy, but our league considers the Field Goal unit as part of the Special Teams.

We eliminate this freak occurrance from awarding a possible victory....FG kickers get awarded only for what they're drafted for....PATs and FGs, that's it.

 

If NE Special Teams (ie. field goal unit) scores a freak TD, NE DST gets the points, not the kicker, Kickers kick, period.

 

I could see the arguement on either side, we voted that we don't award a kicker passing. If you want a kickers "passing stats", you can start him as your QB.

[Casey71 0]

Off topic...if for some crazy reason your QB is the 3rd string FG kicker...and the other 2 kickers go down...and he has to kick a FG..then the points go to D/ST? And not the QB? If he can receive passes for TD's and get the points...why not FG's.

[plasma george 62]

Off topic...if for some crazy reason your QB is the 3rd string FG kicker...and the other 2 kickers go down...and he has to kick a FG..then the points go to D/ST? And not the QB? If he can receive passes for TD's and get the points...why not FG's.

I'm not aware of that scenario ever happening in the 15 years of our league, BUT...our scoring system for QBs is defined as,....

Passing TDs and passing yards, rushing TDs and rushing yards, receiving TDs and receiving yards.

This is what we've agreed a QB to be reward for, not a FG.

 

I remember years ago Danny White was the QB and the Punter, and maybe the holder, perhaps he could have kicked.

Koy Detmer for the Eagles was the holder for years.....I suppose it would be possible.

 

Plus, I'm pretty sure CBS doesn't offer that as a scoring possibility under QBs.