Mad Brad 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Teddy U DA MAN... Vikings fans everywhere love your huge nutt sack, huge ego to match, and peanut brain... Without your silly pissing contest with one of the best Qb's ever, none of this would be possible... Thanks TEDDY... Love, Minnesota Football fans everywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_omarley 11 Posted December 30, 2008 I don't think TT should expect many similar letters from Jets fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted December 30, 2008 i've given some good-natured shiat to packer fans about favre, but the reality is brett really made it impossible for the packers. how the fock do you retire, then watch your team move on from you and make other plans, and THEN UN-RETIRE? it's like a chick asking for a divorce, getting a divorce, and then showing up on the wedding day of her ex and demanding her ex back. favre focked them over big time. given the circumstances, the packers did the right thing and got what they could. but if i'm a packer fan i'm cheesed at brett big time--not thompson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 30, 2008 Teddy U DA MAN...Vikings fans everywhere love your huge nutt sack, huge ego to match, and peanut brain... Without your silly pissing contest with one of the best Qb's ever, none of this would be possible... Thanks TEDDY... Love, Minnesota Football fans everywhere Well we found one! Someone who actually thinks Favre is still a good QB. Here is a different opinion for you. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=337793 Now go fish somewhere else or find another bored because you are not up to speed here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2008 You might want to change the title to "Thanks Ted Thompson. Without You the AFC East title wouldn't Have Been Possible- Signed, Miami fan." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 30, 2008 The Packers were one foot away from a sweep of your team with Rodgers at the helm.... Packers had some bad luck this year. Only the '84 Browns in the history of the NFL lost more close games. But even if they win all of those games, or half of those games, or two of those games, they still weren't ready and had too many injuries to be successful all the way through the playoffs. The Packers misfortunes this year did allow an awful Minn. team with their awful World League quarterback to sneak into the playoffs.... I guess getting crushed in the first round and really having no quarterback (and therefore no team) for the future is something to crow about if you're a Minnesota fan based upon the limited successes you have had in your team history. Packers made the right move. Favre sucked it up this year; Rodgers lit it up. Favre will continue to get worse; Rodgers will continue to get better. Yes, you'd like to win every single year, but if our second losing season in 19 years prepares us better for the future, so be it.... Looking forward to great drafting position, spending some of that money from being way under the cap, and young players maturing and hopefully winning a handful of those close games lost this year. HTH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted December 30, 2008 Wow, really dumb thread. You should be thanking the Packers for not sending Favre to Minnesota. Although he may still be better than the junk you have at QB. Enjoy losing in the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eteumla 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Eventhough I am a Packer fan, I am glad the Viqueens made the playoffs. By making it, they will believe that Tavaris Jackson is the answer at QB, I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holamolla 0 Posted December 30, 2008 The Packers were one foot away from a sweep of your team with Rodgers at the helm....Packers had some bad luck this year. Only the '84 Browns in the history of the NFL lost more close games. But even if they win all of those games, or half of those games, or two of those games, they still weren't ready and had too many injuries to be successful all the way through the playoffs. The Packers misfortunes this year did allow an awful Minn. team with their awful World League quarterback to sneak into the playoffs.... I guess getting crushed in the first round and really having no quarterback (and therefore no team) for the future is something to crow about if you're a Minnesota fan based upon the limited successes you have had in your team history. Packers made the right move. Favre sucked it up this year; Rodgers lit it up. Favre will continue to get worse; Rodgers will continue to get better. Yes, you'd like to win every single year, but if our second losing season in 19 years prepares us better for the future, so be it.... Looking forward to great drafting position, spending some of that money from being way under the cap, and young players maturing and hopefully winning a handful of those close games lost this year. HTH! good lord can you come up with anything else to make you feel better? Maybe they can draft another hawk with high draft pick you are so excited about. Packer fans in this thread are worse than the vikings fan that started it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 30, 2008 good lord can you come up with anything else to make you feel better? Maybe they can draft another hawk with high draft pick you are so excited about. Packer fans in this thread are worse than the vikings fan that started it. Or maybe we'll draft another Jennings. What in the world is the point? But if I have to pick, I'd rather pick high then low. Why are Packer fans worse? The point of the thread was completely ludicrious and was debunked. What in my reply was "worse" then the initial post? The initial poster should be thanking the Packer kicker for (one) missing the FG against his team by a foot and then (two) later missing another easy game-winning field goal against the Bears by kicking it low. He should be thanking the Packer special teams for being absolutely horrid. He should be thanking all of the injuries to the Packer defense. He should be thanking the stupid penalities they've been having all year. And finally he should be thanking the Packer defense who gave up about seven last minutes drives to lose games this year. The last person he should be thanking is Rodgers who had an excellent season or for the loss of Favre who choked and was awful in 6 straight games down the stretch for his new team. It was a dumb initial post and now you are dumb, too. DUMB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted December 30, 2008 Eventhough I am a Packer fan, I am glad the Viqueens made the playoffs. By making it, they will believe that Tavaris Jackson is the answer at QB, I love it. Hey... It worked with Chicago when they went to the Super Bowl. They still think they can with without a QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,779 Posted December 30, 2008 Not that I think Favre would have made much difference in GB. But do people honestly believe he would have played as poor if he was with the same system, players, coaches, and city? A place that he was with for 16 years? He wouldn't have been MVP like, but much better than he was in NY. Still wouldn't have made much difference to GBs record... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belushi 9 Posted December 30, 2008 Not that I think Favre would have made much difference in GB. But do people honestly believe he would have played as poor if he was with the same system, players, coaches, and city? A place that he was with for 16 years? He wouldn't have been MVP like, but much better than he was in NY. Still wouldn't have made much difference to GBs record... Look at his stats before last year. He was just as bad as his NY days. Last year is looking more like a fluke or a factor of the team around him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_omarley 11 Posted December 30, 2008 IMO Brett's lesser years in GB were the result of trying to do too much when the team played poor D and/or had injuries to overcome. in 2007, the team was healthy, the D played well, and Brett stayed within the system and did a great job. On sunday, I watched the jets game. It was like going back in time. Brett was throwing up balls into coverage with the hope that something good happens. Brett is a legend, and an all-time great; but I (and most rational Packer fans) am soooo happy TT pulled off what he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 30, 2008 IMO Brett's lesser years in GB were the result of trying to do too much when the team played poor D and/or had injuries to overcome. in 2007, the team was healthy, the D played well, and Brett stayed within the system and did a great job. On sunday, I watched the jets game. It was like going back in time. Brett was throwing up balls into coverage with the hope that something good happens. Brett is a legend, and an all-time great; but I (and most rational Packer fans) am soooo happy TT pulled off what he did. Why does everyone give this guy a pass. The legend is much greater than the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_omarley 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Why does everyone give this guy a pass. The legend is much greater than the man. you are a packer fan that watches all the games, right? (no cocky tone, serious question) I don't think of it as a pass. I clearly remember Brett playing well, the team being down 2 or more scores in the 4th quarter, and he starts taking more risks launching it deep. it's not like he didn't make mistakes, but I feel that was often the case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 30, 2008 you are a packer fan that watches all the games, right? (no cocky tone, serious question) I don't think of it as a pass. I clearly remember Brett playing well, the team being down 2 or more scores in the 4th quarter, and he starts taking more risks launching it deep. it's not like he didn't make mistakes, but I feel that was often the case I am a Packer season ticket holder that saw every game Favre played as a Packer. HTH Face it, no one could live up to the legend that the media built. Favre alluded to that in his retirement speech last March. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2008 Favre has a lot of similarities to Tony Romo. Both are always looking for the big play, and neither ever put much thought into what is practical and best for teh team at any given moment. Both always think they can do something special and never consider that throwing teh ball out-of-bounds or into teh ground may be the better option. The differences between Favre and romo are that Favre may have double the arm strength of Romo, is ten times tougher, and actually rises to the occasion of big games, rather than wilt away like a scared little girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted December 30, 2008 Favre has a lot of similarities to Tony Romo. Both are always looking for the big play, and neither ever put much thought into what is practical and best for teh team at any given moment. Both always think they can do something special and never consider that throwing teh ball out-of-bounds or into teh ground may be the better option. The differences between Favre and romo are that Favre may have double the arm strength of Romo, is ten times tougher, and actually rises to the occasion of big games, rather than wilt away like a scared little girl. I was about to come after you comparing Romo to Favre, but you cleaned it up nicely. I will add one other note though: Favre has played with only one HoFer in his entire career (I believe). Romo is currently playing with 2 surefire HoFers right now in TO and Witten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 30, 2008 Teddy U DA MAN...Vikings fans everywhere love your huge nutt sack, huge ego to match, and peanut brain... Without your silly pissing contest with one of the best Qb's ever, none of this would be possible... Thanks TEDDY... Love, Minnesota Football fans everywhere If favre would of stayed with the packers, the packers would have been 2-14. The greenbay offense, led by rodgers put up the same amount of points as the jets this year(both were tied for the 6th rated scoring offense), however rodgers did it with no running game. The difference in records is directly related to defensive quality, the jets had an above average defense, the packers had a below average defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Why does everyone give this guy a pass. The legend is much greater than the man. why not? aarons been given a pass all season..... everyone here is ready to have a parade for aaron...4000 yards...as if favre didnt and wouldnt do that? favre did that even with taking the bears game off.... with the way the wrs run after the catch, aaron SHOULDVE had 4000 yards.... what was his % of scoring on opening drives? barely better than closing drives..which was atriocius... we are talking about aaron rodgers for heavens sake... and if people are going to say..well, aaron was hurt..so was brett...and aaron had the better coach in mccarthy... the packers wouldnt have been 2-14...forget the vikings game..brett can read the blitz and audible out..just because rodgers says hut and runs for this life..doesnt mean brett would..that stuff happens after week 12 but its rodgers...if hes the answer...i dont want to know the question... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Teddy U DA MAN...Vikings fans everywhere love your huge nutt sack, ... Thanks TEDDY... Love, Minnesota Football fans everywhere you viqueen fans are ghey also? great...time for loveboat 2, i guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 30, 2008 If favre would of stayed with the packers, the packers would have been 2-14. The greenbay offense, led by rodgers put up the same amount of points as the jets this year(both were tied for the 6th rated scoring offense), however rodgers did it with no running game. The difference in records is directly related to defensive quality, the jets had an above average defense, the packers had a below average defense. the packers had more excuses also.... favre has a torn bicep muscle..and still led his team to a better year than aaron.....imagine had he stayed healthy? and why do you think the packers running game dropped?.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted December 30, 2008 why not? aarons been given a pass all season..... everyone here is ready to have a parade for aaron...4000 yards...as if favre didnt and wouldnt do that? favre did that even with taking the bears game off.... with the way the wrs run after the catch, aaron SHOULDVE had 4000 yards.... Dude... Leave the hate at the door. 4,000 yards is 4,000 yards. He doesn't need "a pass" when he is passing so well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Dude... Leave the hate at the door. 4,000 yards is 4,000 yards. He doesn't need "a pass" when he is passing so well. thats over 100 yards less than favre had last year....and 7 less wins..... leave the love to your private setting and not here please... you dont think the wrs are great after the catch? as i said..it skews favres numbers also...they are just that, numbers..some picks arent that important either...but everyone focuses on pure numbers and not wins...i can see why... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted December 31, 2008 thats over 100 yards less than favre had last year....and 7 less wins..... leave the love to your private setting and not here please... you dont think the wrs are great after the catch? as i said..it skews favres numbers also...they are just that, numbers..some picks arent that important either...but everyone focuses on pure numbers and not wins...i can see why... Because one player does not win games in the NFL... The player is responsible for contributing to the overall effort (numbers) which Rodgers did much more than his share this year. And yes he was a few yards short of Farve last year, but is that a bad thing? Favre's number's last year were stellar too. And show me the stats were GB's WRs have more YAC then any other team. Every QB has the advantage of their receivers being able to run after the catch. Stop being silly. I have very realistic expectations of the Packers, but I am content with Rodgers at the helm. Their secondaries are much more of a concern then their QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 31, 2008 I don't think TT should expect many similar letters from Jets fans thats because Jets fans cant write Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 31, 2008 the packers had more excuses also....favre has a torn bicep muscle..and still led his team to a better year than aaron.....imagine had he stayed healthy? and why do you think the packers running game dropped?.... You didnt read what i wrote, the DEFENSE led the Jets to a better record than the Packers. The packers and the jets had the EXACT same amount of points scored this year on offense, which was 6th in the league. The fact that rodgers led the packers to the 6th scoring offense in the league with a ryan grant who started the year slow due to a banged up hammy(the reason the running game struggled), shows how solid of a QB he is. Both QB's played most of the year with hurt shoulders. It affected Rodger's play alot less than favre's play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted December 31, 2008 You didnt read what i wrote, the DEFENSE led the Jets to a better record than the Packers. The packers and the jets had the EXACT same amount of points scored this year on offense, which was 6th in the league. The fact that rodgers led the packers to the 6th scoring offense in the league with a ryan grant who started the year slow due to a banged up hammy(the reason the running game struggled), shows how solid of a QB he is. Both QB's played most of the year with hurt shoulders. It affected Rodger's play alot less than favre's play. the packers had a lot of ints and returns for tds..... ive refused to use excuses for brett...but people feel the need to do so for aaron..so i may have to start..... im not going to convince anyone and vice versa..so why bother? all i can do is point to the standings...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_omarley 11 Posted December 31, 2008 B$, by your continued and unwavering rationale, Joe Flacco is one of the best QBs in the league, and Chad Pennington is possibly the greatest of all time football is a team sport. Rodgers played better that Favre this year. They are fortunate to have a top 10 qb who will be dedicated to preparing for 2009, rather than a guy who will try to jerk the team around for the next half-year, only to throw as many or more picks than TDs. I too love Brett for what he has done in the past, but come back to reality. or, am I wasting my breath, and it's true that the Pack isn't even your true team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Because one player does not win games in the NFL... not always true. elway back in the 80s single-handedly carried the broncos to super bowl appearances they had no business being in other than spectators. true, the broncos finally won the super bowl late in his career when they did become a complete team...but elway took the broncos in his early days several levels higher than they would have gotten without him. marino also did it to a lesser extent. rodgers isn't that type of qb. he's a good qb who needs a cast around him and needs to stay within himself and not fock up (which is the story for most qbs). but he won't "carry" the packers like favre did in his hey day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 31, 2008 Not that I think Favre would have made much difference in GB. But do people honestly believe he would have played as poor if he was with the same system, players, coaches, and city? A place that he was with for 16 years? He wouldn't have been MVP like, but much better than he was in NY. Still wouldn't have made much difference to GBs record... Do you not remember 2 years ago when he played as poor with the same system, team, and city? He played in NY like he has played at times before. By week 17...it had nothing to do with the sytem, the city or the players and coaches. A 15 year vet should be able to do more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 31, 2008 the packers had a lot of ints and returns for tds..... ive refused to use excuses for brett...but people feel the need to do so for aaron..so i may have to start..... im not going to convince anyone and vice versa..so why bother? all i can do is point to the standings...... The Packers had a nice amount of D/ST scores last year too. Or did you forget those. Standings do not tell the whole story about the QB position. And I suspect you know this...but maybe you really are as ignorant as you are coming off in these Packer threads thi syear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,779 Posted December 31, 2008 If favre would of stayed with the packers, the packers would have been 2-14. The greenbay offense, led by rodgers put up the same amount of points as the jets this year(both were tied for the 6th rated scoring offense), however rodgers did it with no running game. The difference in records is directly related to defensive quality, the jets had an above average defense, the packers had a below average defense. No running game? Where do people get this stuff? Maybe say "not as good of a running game". The running game was solid the 2nd half of the year. While your at the comparisons, talk about the WRs of boths teams, the knowledge of the systems by both QBs...and so on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 31, 2008 No running game? Where do people get this stuff? Maybe say "not as good of a running game". The running game was solid the 2nd half of the year. While your at the comparisons, talk about the WRs of boths teams, the knowledge of the systems by both QBs...and so on... I am really high on the jets WR's, i think both jets WR's are better than driver is at this point in his career. I do think jennings is better than both the jets WR's, so i think talking about them is a pretty moot point. The reason that the jets WR's didnt put up the numbers this year is because of QB play. And you are right about the running game, i thought they were worse than what they were, however it was still a below average unit(ranked 17th in the league) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 31, 2008 I am really high on the jets WR's, i think both jets WR's are better than driver is at this point in his career. I do think jennings is better than both the jets WR's, so i think talking about them is a pretty moot point.The reason that the jets WR's didnt put up the numbers this year is because of QB play. And you are right about the running game, i thought they were worse than what they were, however it was still a below average unit(ranked 17th in the league) Well, you would be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holamolla 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Or maybe we'll draft another Jennings. What in the world is the point?But if I have to pick, I'd rather pick high then low. Why are Packer fans worse? The point of the thread was completely ludicrious and was debunked. What in my reply was "worse" then the initial post? The initial poster should be thanking the Packer kicker for (one) missing the FG against his team by a foot and then (two) later missing another easy game-winning field goal against the Bears by kicking it low. He should be thanking the Packer special teams for being absolutely horrid. He should be thanking all of the injuries to the Packer defense. He should be thanking the stupid penalities they've been having all year. And finally he should be thanking the Packer defense who gave up about seven last minutes drives to lose games this year. The last person he should be thanking is Rodgers who had an excellent season or for the loss of Favre who choked and was awful in 6 straight games down the stretch for his new team. It was a dumb initial post and now you are dumb, too. DUMB more excuses I see. got any more? you sound like a huge whiner. maybe they should have a better kicker it sounds like and actually have some depth on defense??? maybe they should have better coaching?? seriously your excuses are so lame, just admit your team isnt very good and needs ALOT of work this offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Well, you would be wrong. agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,779 Posted December 31, 2008 I am really high on the jets WR's, i think both jets WR's are better than driver is at this point in his career. I do think jennings is better than both the jets WR's, so i think talking about them is a pretty moot point.The reason that the jets WR's didnt put up the numbers this year is because of QB play. And you are right about the running game, i thought they were worse than what they were, however it was still a below average unit(ranked 17th in the league) That is crazy. Driver just had another 1000 yard year. You are high on Coles? Cotchery? Driver has been around the block. It goes more than 2 deep as well. Driver, Jennings, Jones, Jordy Nelsen, Ruvall Martin. I'm not trying to be a ######, but Driver is a vet who has been to the Pro Bowl and back. If you think Coles AND Cotchery are better than Driver than I don't know what to say. I would say Jennings and Driver are both better than Coles and Cotchery. While the Packers have 3 more quality WRs behind them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKET 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Yeah I'm sure if the Pack still had Favre and his league leading INT total they'd have won the division. Enjoy your division win and first round exit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites