swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 31, 2008 Conference Schools Record Percentage Pac-10 (5) Ariz,Cal,Ore,OSU,USC 5-0 1.000 SEC (8) Ala,Fla,Ga,Ky,LSU,Miss,SCar,Vandy 4-1 .800 C-USA (6) EC,Hou,Mem,Rice,SMiss,Tulsa 3-1 .750 Big East (6) Cin,Pitt,Rut,UConn,USF,WV 3-2 .600 Big 12 (7) KU,Mizzou,Neb,OU,OSU,Tex,TT 3-2 .600 MWC (5) AF,BYU,CSU,TCU,Utah 2-2 .500 Independents (2) Navy,Notre Dame 1-1 .500 Sun Belt (2) Fla. Atlantic,Troy 1-1 .500 ACC (10) BC,Clem,FSU,GT,Mary,Miami, NC,NCS,VT,WF 4-6 .400 WAC (5) BSU,FresSt,Haw,LaTech,Nev 1-4 .200 Big Ten (7) Iowa,MichSt,Minn,NWestrn,OSU,PSU,Wis 1-5 .167 MAC (5) BallSt,Buff,CMich,NIU,WMich 0-3 .000 Midwest sucks at everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted December 31, 2008 Pac-10 (5) 3-0 1.000 I told a handful of buddies to lay the family trust/tree/jewels on Oregon to win straight up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 3, 2009 [kilroy]Convferences don't matter, the only thing that matters is weather[kilroy] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 4, 2009 at least the hawkeyes took SC to the woodshed... wish i could have afforded the trip to tampa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,008 Posted January 4, 2009 go Jayhawks and Tigers and Huskers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted January 4, 2009 at least the hawkeyes took SC to the woodshed... wish i could have afforded the trip to tampa I would have thought okla jr. would have put up a better showing. I expected more out of tech. Maybe the Big 12 is not as good as I thought, surprised Iowa took it to s carolina too. pac 10 5-0, impressive. beat some good teams too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,008 Posted January 6, 2009 chalk another one up for the big 12, overrated big 10 can suck it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,822 Posted January 6, 2009 Big Ten Blows. Easily the worst of the "power conf." They put up a better fight than expected, but the last go ahead TD was pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted January 6, 2009 Big Ten Blows. Easily the worst of the "power conf." They put up a better fight than expected, but the last go ahead TD was pathetic. Too bad they didn't play on the North Pole. Ohio State would have dominated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2009 chalk another one up for the big 12, overrated big 10 can suck it Overrated? Nobody is rating them high. If anything, this shows Texas as overrated as they needed a last second TD to beat a poor OSU team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted January 6, 2009 chalk another one up for the big 12, overrated big 10 can suck it KU and Nebraska are the only teams that have looked good. This was supposed to be the premiere conference this year. It ain't because no one can D up. OU will get mauled on Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 6, 2009 Big Ten Blows. Easily the worst of the "power conf." They put up a better fight than expected, but the last go ahead TD was pathetic. bowl games are all about matchups, and the big ten probably had the hardest bowl schedule of any conference if you look at it. OSU - a texas team that could have been playing for the title penn st - USC arguably the best team in the country mich st. a georgia team that was favored to win it all at the start of the season iowa - SC... yeah so they suck... they got buried minnesota - a kansas offense that is pretty good ... besides minn sucks iowa stomped their sh1t 55-0 northwestern - a missouri team coming off of a tough loss and at one time was in the national title hunt wisconsin - yeah fla st isn't that great... maybe the one disappointment here all i'm saying is that the big ten didn't get to play C-USA, MAC, or MWC cupcakes that a lot of other conferences did... and most of their games went down to the wire... simply because they didn't win doesn't mean they didn't have a good showing... i challenge the pac 10 to play the bowl schedule the big 10 had and to come out significantly better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 6, 2009 all i'm saying is that the big ten didn't get to play C-USA, MAC, or MWC cupcakes that a lot of other conferences did... and most of their games went down to the wire... simply because they didn't win doesn't mean they didn't have a good showing... i challenge the pac 10 to play the bowl schedule the big 10 had and to come out significantly better... Umm.. Arizona beat # 16 BYU Cal beat Miami #17Oregon Beat #13 Oklah st. Oregeon St. beat #20 Pitt #5 USC bet #8 Penn st. So the worst team the pac 10 played was miami. In all of the matchups, they were underdogs except for USC pac 10 went undefeated against this bowl schedule. Claiming big 10 had a tougher schedule than the pac10 is laughable. The pac10 probably had the toughest schedule out of any conference. They only played one non top 25 team and Miami is a hell of a lot better than SC or Flordia st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted January 6, 2009 Umm.. Arizona beat # 16 BYU Cal beat Miami #17Oregon Beat #13 Oklah st. Oregeon St. beat #20 Pitt #5 USC bet #8 Penn st. So the worst team the pac 10 played was miami. In all of the matchups, they were underdogs except for USC pac 10 went undefeated against this bowl schedule. Claiming big 10 had a tougher schedule than the pac10 is laughable. The pac10 probably had the toughest schedule out of any conference. They only played one non top 25 team and Miami is a hell of a lot better than SC or Flordia st. Ok I'm a Big Ten guy, but don't give them much respect, but its not laugable at all. I mean really just because BYU was ranked #16 doesnt mean anything OSU, Penn. St. MSU, Iowa, and probably N' western beat them Miami probably the same thing. They were a joke and only in the game because Longshore was playing. Oky St. OK good team OSU or PSU could probably beat them Pitt, pathetic Dave Wanstadt is a loser, Michigan probably would have beat them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 6, 2009 Not sure how a mediocre football conference like the ACC secure 10 games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted January 6, 2009 wisconsin - yeah fla st isn't that great... maybe the one disappointment here True Story (I promise) - I was in a Smoothie shop the other day and Chuck Amato (assistant coach at FSU) rolled in. The guy behind the counter was talking to him as I guess he comes in alot during the off season. Here was the conversation: Smoothie guy: The Seminoles look to be making a comeback Chuck: We still have a long way to go Smoothie guy: But ya'll looked real good against Wisconsin Chuck: Yeah, but they were a bunch of stiffs from the Big 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 6, 2009 True Story (I promise) - I was in a Smoothie shop the other day and Chuck Amato (assistant coach at FSU) rolled in. The guy behind the counter was talking to him as I guess he comes in alot during the off season. Here was the conversation: Smoothie guy: The Seminoles look to be making a comeback Chuck: We still have a long way to go Smoothie guy: But ya'll looked real good against Wisconsin Chuck: Yeah, but they were a bunch of stiffs from the Big 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted January 6, 2009 They only played one non top 25 team and Miami is a hell of a lot better than SC or Flordia st. Ummm...you had me until here. Florida St. beat Miami this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,535 Posted January 6, 2009 Ok I'm a Big Ten guy, but don't give them much respect, but its not laugable at all. I mean really just because BYU was ranked #16 doesnt mean anything Sure it does. It means they were deemed the 16th best team in the country by a combination of knowledgeable voters and complex computer algorithms. OSU, Penn. St. MSU, Iowa, and probably N' western beat them I'll give you the first two, since they were ranked significantly higher. MSU couldn't beat #15, why would they beat #16? Miami probably the same thing. They were a joke and only in the game because Longshore was playing. Remarkably, teams play their best players. Oky St. OK good team OSU or PSU could probably beat them Probably. They were after all ranked higher. Pitt, pathetic Dave Wanstadt is a loser, Michigan probably would have beat them So basically your argument is that the PAC-10 teams are ranked too low, and the Big-11 teams are ranked too high, and that voters should consider that next year so that the Big 11 faces equally craptastic foes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 6, 2009 Sure it does. It means they were deemed the 16th best team in the country by a combination of knowledgeable voters and complex computer algorithms.I'll give you the first two, since they were ranked significantly higher. MSU couldn't beat #15, why would they beat #16? Remarkably, teams play their best players. Probably. They were after all ranked higher. So basically your argument is that the PAC-10 teams are ranked too low, and the Big-11 teams are ranked too high, and that voters should consider that next year so that the Big 11 faces equally craptastic foes? this is why they need to throw out all of the cupcake games at the beginning of the year and have conference to conference matchups. i'm biased here, but i believe as a whole the big ten has better football teams than the pac-10 or the ACC... sure USC is easily better than any of the big 10 teams... but oregon, oregon st, arizona... i believe the majority of the teams in the big ten could beat or at least compete with these "elite pac 10 teams" to truly settle all this we need the playoff system and conference to conference matchups that rotate every year... *also... the big ten usually gets a harder schedule during bowl season because traditionally they travel well... $$$ drives a lot of the matchups... the arizonas and oregon st. don't typically draw as much revenue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted January 6, 2009 this is why they need to throw out all of the cupcake games at the beginning of the year and have conference to conference matchups. i'm biased here, but i believe as a whole the big ten has better football teams than the pac-10 or the ACC... sure USC is easily better than any of the big 10 teams... but oregon, oregon st, arizona... i believe the majority of the teams in the big ten could beat or at least compete with these "elite pac 10 teams" clearly you're biased. As an SEC guy, there's no way in hell the Big10 is as good as the Pac10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 7, 2009 My post was just to point out to the guy who said he challenged the pac10 to play a more challenging schedule. They played 4 top 25 teams. They were underdogs in every matchup except usc. Yet they went 5-0. Talking smack on the pac-10 would have some merit if they had gone 3-2 or something, but they didn't lose a single game. I don't get how you can compare big 10s schedule with the pac10's. If i remember correctly, the big 10 was favored in 3 of the matchups. No comparison, sorry kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 7, 2009 Ok I'm a Big Ten guy, but don't give them much respect, but its not laugable at all. I mean really just because BYU was ranked #16 doesnt mean anything OSU, Penn. St. MSU, Iowa, and probably N' western beat them Miami probably the same thing. They were a joke and only in the game because Longshore was playing. Oky St. OK good team OSU or PSU could probably beat them Pitt, pathetic Dave Wanstadt is a loser, Michigan probably would have beat them Obviously, your opinion is in the minority. Penn/osu obviously beat BYU, but what are northwestern, iowa, and msu ranked? If they're not higher, that means, most people believe BYU is better than those teams. Oklah st is good and i would put my money on penn and osu, but again, they're ranked higher. They SHOULD beat them. But the pac-10 were underdogs in this matchup. Its funny to see people making all these excuses. They travel well. Come on guys, if the big10 had even gone 3-2 it could have been debated. At the very least, you could say big10 and pac10 had comparable schedules. I give the edge to the pac10 but whatever. Big 10 went 1-5. With comparable schedules, the big 10 stunk the joint up while the pac 10 beat everyone. Penn is good no doubt and had a tough matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skiptown 0 Posted January 7, 2009 My post was just to point out to the guy who said he challenged the pac10 to play a more challenging schedule. They played 4 top 25 teams. They were underdogs in every matchup except usc. Yet they went 5-0. Not to be too picky, but Arizona was -3 over BYU, Cal was -10 over Miami and Oregon State was -1 over Pitt. Oregon was +1 to Okie State. So really it's not too surprising that they went 5-0. I'm an Arizona alum, so I was glad to see it. I expect to hear more of the same crap when the NCAA b-ball tourney comes around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 clearly you're biased. As an SEC guy, there's no way in hell the Big10 is as good as the Pac10. prove it to me then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 Obviously, your opinion is in the minority. Penn/osu obviously beat BYU, but what are northwestern, iowa, and msu ranked? If they're not higher, that means, most people believe BYU is better than those teams. Oklah st is good and i would put my money on penn and osu, but again, they're ranked higher. They SHOULD beat them. But the pac-10 were underdogs in this matchup. Its funny to see people making all these excuses. They travel well. Come on guys, if the big10 had even gone 3-2 it could have been debated. At the very least, you could say big10 and pac10 had comparable schedules. I give the edge to the pac10 but whatever. Big 10 went 1-5. With comparable schedules, the big 10 stunk the joint up while the pac 10 beat everyone. Penn is good no doubt and had a tough matchup. BYU is ranked higher because they play a cupcake schedule and only lost 2 game whiles playing it as far as the bowl schedule... it's laughable... yes the record is hard to overlook, but it is not even close when comparing the bowl schedule of pac 10 or even acc teams to the big ten bowl schedule EDIT and i'm not giving the big 10 a pass... they have been poor the last 2 or 3 years, i just feel it is unfair for the media to label them as the single horrific conference, when in reality the pac 10 and acc 10 are equally horrible... the fact is the sec and the big 12 have separated themselves from the pack and everyone must catch up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 7, 2009 BYU is ranked higher because they play a cupcake schedule and only lost 2 game whiles playing it as far as the bowl schedule... it's laughable... yes the record is hard to overlook, but it is not even close when comparing the bowl schedule of pac 10 or even acc teams to the big ten bowl schedule EDIT and i'm not giving the big 10 a pass... they have been poor the last 2 or 3 years, i just feel it is unfair for the media to label them as the single horrific conference, when in reality the pac 10 and acc 10 are equally horrible... the fact is the sec and the big 12 have separated themselves from the pack and everyone must catch up... You seriously think pac 10's schedule was not even close to the big 10's schedule? Man, if you believe you that, you couldn't be more bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 You seriously think pac 10's schedule was not even close to the big 10's schedule? Man, if you believe you that, you couldn't be more bias. bowl schedule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 7, 2009 bowl schedule Thats what i'm talking about as well. The pac-10 played 4 top 25 teams. How is that not even close to big-10's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 You seriously think pac 10's schedule was not even close to the big 10's schedule? Man, if you believe you that, you couldn't be more bias. USC Texas Georgia Mizzou Kansas Fla St. South Car far greater than Penn St. BYU Miami Ok St Pitt then let's throw out the USC/penn game because that is what we are talking about Ok. st is the only decent team in there tex/georgia/mizzou is greater than BYU/pitt/Ok st Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 5-0>>1-6 that is easy to say... but the schedule isn't even comparable i'll just agree to disagree... it's like me playing 1 on 1 vs lebron/wade/pierce then you getting to play against middle schoolers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 7, 2009 that is easy to say... but the schedule isn't even comparable i'll just agree to disagree... it's like me playing 1 on 1 vs lebron/wade/pierce then you getting to play against middle schoolers How many big 10 teams were ranked? 80% of the bears bowl schedule ranked in the top 25. I think it may have been even all top 20. Call beat 20% of the top 20. Well its probably higher than that since there were two top 20 teams in the pac10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted January 7, 2009 Big 10, about as good as I thought. Big 12 Not as good as I thought. Pac 10 Better than I thought. Overall conferences top to bottom. 1 SEC 2 Big 12 3 Pac 10 4 ACC 5 Conference USA 6 big 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 7, 2009 Big 10, about as good as I thought. Big 12 Not as good as I thought. Pac 10 Better than I thought. Overall conferences top to bottom. 1 SEC 2 Big 12 3 Pac 10 4 ACC 5 Conference USA 6 big 10 This is about right IMHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 7, 2009 How many big 10 teams were ranked? 80% of the bears bowl schedule ranked in the top 25. I think it may have been even all top 20. Call beat 20% of the top 20. Well its probably higher than that since there were two top 20 teams in the pac10. i'm not following, are we still talking about the bowl schedule? or just the regular season schedule for the cal golden bears? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 8, 2009 i'm not following, are we still talking about the bowl schedule? or just the regular season schedule for the cal golden bears? The bowl schedule. I meant to say pac-10. i was high last night. The pac-10 beat 20% of the top 20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted January 8, 2009 The bowl schedule. I meant to say pac-10. i was high last night. The pac-10 beat 20% of the top 20. hahaha... i was rippin last night as well... and tonight is whiskey western night which will probably have more of the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites