m4rk0 0 Posted December 15, 2009 Anyone considering starting Dallas Clark Thursday night? He had a terrible game against Jax in week 1 and I checked out out the points allowed for TEs for Jax and they are top 3 in the league at 5.1 fantasy pts/game. I don't know if I can take that risk especially if he only plays 3 quarters if Indy is up big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted December 15, 2009 It's a good point and it's not like he money every week, either. I guess it all depends on if you have a decent replacement for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 15, 2009 He's only a flex option on my team as we don't need to start TEs. He's typically a good option but I don't feel good about this matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted December 15, 2009 I'm in the same boat, not a flex but we start 3 WRs (w/TEs as WRs). I think I'm going to roll w/VJax, Meachem, and Jennings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 15, 2009 For a pretty long stretch he was a solid 10 - 14 pts per/game (non-ppr) and he's now become a feast or famine play in recent weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,594 Posted December 15, 2009 Starting him in two leagues and going against him in my big money league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted December 15, 2009 Benching your studs for matchups in the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 15, 2009 Benching your studs for matchups in the playoffs? 2 good games out of the last 5 is not very studly (non-ppr). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gszaszko 0 Posted December 15, 2009 In my league (PPR) he ranks 7th among WR/TE just behind Randy Moss. I won't consider benching him any more than I would Moss, the potential is just too great and the replacements too sub-par. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted December 15, 2009 Back-2-Back monsters is a lot to ask. And the fact they might be resting some players .... Tom Santi actually was in there more last game and was getting targets ... AND catches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 15, 2009 Back-2-Back monsters is a lot to ask. And the fact they might be resting some players .... Tom Santi actually was in there more last game and was getting targets ... AND catches. Add to that they're playing the 3rd best team against TEs in fantasy. And Clark laid an egg earlier against JAX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted December 15, 2009 Have him and rolling with him. As we've seen throughout the season, he's one of Manning's top red-zone targets. Despite his low yardage the past several weeks, he still has 5 touchdowns in 4 games. Teams that gameplanned to stop Clark still lost. Clark and Vernon Davis have been the two elite tight ends all season, and Gates has joined them recently. I wouldn't think about benching Clark unless I had Davis or Gates on my bench. It's also worth noting that Jacksonville has faced some of the least impressive TEs all season, and a whole bunch of teams that barely use theirs in the receiving game. After Davis and Owen Daniels, the next-best-scoring TE they've faced all year is #18, John Carlson. Both Davis and Daniels got a TD and decent yardage. Don't overthink the matchups unless you have an excellent alternative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopanthers! 1 Posted December 15, 2009 Have him and rolling with him. As we've seen throughout the season, he's one of Manning's top red-zone targets. Despite his low yardage the past several weeks, he still has 5 touchdowns in 4 games. Teams that gameplanned to stop Clark still lost. Clark and Vernon Davis have been the two elite tight ends all season, and Gates has joined them recently. I wouldn't think about benching Clark unless I had Davis or Gates on my bench. It's also worth noting that Jacksonville has faced some of the least impressive TEs all season, and a whole bunch of teams that barely use theirs in the receiving game. After Davis and Owen Daniels, the next-best-scoring TE they've faced all year is #18, John Carlson. Both Davis and Daniels got a TD and decent yardage. Don't overthink the matchups unless you have an excellent alternative. Good analysis. There is no way i am benching him at this point. Especially for Olsen! Match-up isnt perfect, but wasn't Denver's pass d pretty good? nuff said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 16, 2009 I have JerMichael Finley and am the biggest Packer homer in the world and have been dying to play him all season long..... But even I am not dumb enough to bench D. Clark in the playoffs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted December 16, 2009 You know what they call guys who bench studs for the matchups in the playoffs? Stupid. Or losers. Or non-Super Bowl teams. Or dopes. Take your pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,594 Posted December 16, 2009 Didn't he just have :banana: TDs on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew's Berry's 0 Posted December 16, 2009 Didn't he just have :banana: TDs on Sunday. So that means he will have THREE again the next game? No way, sports and statistics are all about averages ... And the one lesson everyone should know in fantasy football is to NOT chase points. Hopefully Indy comes out with honest information regarding playing time for its players. In situations like this I watch the betting lines ... Freaking mobs know EVERYTHING! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 16, 2009 he still has 5 touchdowns in 4 games. I have him, and I am going to start him, but I must translate the above. He scored twice in 3 games, then went off for 3 scores last week. The one game he scored in, he scored on the only pass he caught. Yes, I am going to start him, but my hope is he catches at least 1 ball for 5 to 10 yards and a TD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 16, 2009 You know what they call guys who bench studs for the matchups in the playoffs? Stupid. Or losers. Or non-Super Bowl teams. Or dopes. Take your pick. Tell that to someone who benched Benson for Ganther last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sketch27 1 Posted December 16, 2009 Yea, and Denver was in the top 3 best teams against the TE last week before Dallas hung 3TD's on there ass. It's not like jacksonville is unstoppable. Vernon Davis put up 6-69 and 1TD a few weeks ago. Owen Daniels put up 5-38 and 1TD this year as well. They've faced the most pathetic bunch of TE's all year, no ###### they're going to be top 3. Lets list them, Becht, Scaife, Carlson, McMichael, Pope, Keller, Nelson, Dreessen, Haynos. So they held Dallas to 4-37 week 1. Last year, Dallas went 4-47 in the first game, then at the end of the year put up 8-105, 1TD against Jacksonville. In 2007 he went 4-66, 1TD and 7-60, 2TD's. Starting to see a trend..... Analyze it all you want, at least for my league (PPR), Dallas Clark is the #1 tight end and there's not a snowballs chance in hell that I'm going to sit that man in the semi-final game when I need him most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 198 Posted December 16, 2009 90 yards away from 1000. They may try and get him there this week...if not it's 4-45. and the same next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted December 16, 2009 I have him, and I am going to start him, but I must translate the above. He scored twice in 3 games, then went off for 3 scores last week. The one game he scored in, he scored on the only pass he caught. Yes, I am going to start him, but my hope is he catches at least 1 ball for 5 to 10 yards and a TD Well, yeah. Regardless of the density of TDs in one game, the point is the amount of looks he gets in the red zone. All of those TDs came inside the 10, and he continues to be Manning's most reliable red zone target. You know he's always a good bet for yardage, and there's no reason to think he won't have a fine shot at a TD, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted December 16, 2009 I am seriously considering starting Fred Davis over Clark this week. Davis has been real consistent over the past 3 weeks that he's been the starter, and he's matching up against a Giants defense that isn't stopping anyone at this point (Celek had a nice game against them last week). If Antonio Pierce does not play this weekend, and they stay with what they have, I'm gonna go with Davis. Just a hunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted December 16, 2009 I am seriously considering starting Fred Davis over Clark this week. Davis has been real consistent over the past 3 weeks that he's been the starter, and he's matching up against a Giants defense that isn't stopping anyone at this point (Celek had a nice game against them last week). If Antonio Pierce does not play this weekend, and they stay with what they have, I'm gonna go with Davis. Just a hunch. I think Pierce is on IR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted December 16, 2009 I think Pierce is on IR I thought so but wasn't sure. Now that I look at it, in 2007 and 2008, Clark has averaged 12 receptions per season against the Jags, including 3 TDs in 2 games in 2007. In 2008, he had one TD. So if the trend holds true, he should have 8 receptions and at least one TD (he didn't score in the first match-up). I digress. As long as Clark is completely healthy going into this game, he is a must start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 16, 2009 Well, yeah. Regardless of the density of TDs in one game, the point is the amount of looks he gets in the red zone. All of those TDs came inside the 10, and he continues to be Manning's most reliable red zone target. You know he's always a good bet for yardage, and there's no reason to think he won't have a fine shot at a TD, too. I agree, and sorry if my post came off wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gszaszko 0 Posted December 18, 2009 *cough*neverbenchyourstuds*cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted December 18, 2009 I agree, and sorry if my post came off wrong. No worries. Everyone wins in Dallas Clark land! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titan20 0 Posted December 18, 2009 He's proving the never bench your studs philosophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted December 18, 2009 wish the clark owner in my league was dumb enough to bench him....yes i'm facing him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rottytiny 7 Posted December 18, 2009 wish the clark owner in my league was dumb enough to bench him....yes i'm facing him. me too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 18, 2009 Jax "tough on tight ends"!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billmatic 0 Posted December 18, 2009 me too Me 3. Always good to go into the weekend games in a 20+ point hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitsnow 0 Posted December 18, 2009 I just happen to be playing against dallas clark.... ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted December 18, 2009 dam, i bet clark would get like 200 yards and 5 tds if not for the tough jax d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted December 18, 2009 I'm glad I decided to start him! Benched Jennings instead...woohoo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted December 18, 2009 I thought so but wasn't sure. Now that I look at it, in 2007 and 2008, Clark has averaged 12 receptions per season against the Jags, including 3 TDs in 2 games in 2007. In 2008, he had one TD. So if the trend holds true, he should have 8 receptions and at least one TD (he didn't score in the first match-up). I digress. As long as Clark is completely healthy going into this game, he is a must start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted December 18, 2009 He's proving the never bench your studs philosophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gridiron whirlwinds 4 Posted December 18, 2009 I started Clark last night, in a TD only league I know that the Jags have been good against TE this year.....but I threw everything esle out the window except 2 things. Clark just scored 3tds 5 days ago, and his QB is Peyton Manning......was an easy decision for me. Now I have the luxury os starting both Ravens backs come sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,594 Posted December 18, 2009 Didn't he just have TDs on Sunday. Update: Make that 5 TDs in 5 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites