Le'veon Bell: The Saga - UPDATE: Doesn't need surgery

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

Could be the steal of draft ..wish he was healthy to be more confident in him

[Frozenbeernuts 2,111]

This is a situation where he will probably still go early fourth, even with knee scares. I would love for his adp to drop but there is always one over zealous owner who has that rookie love (in all fairness last year it kind of paid off).

[RoadLizard 73]

I was all set to draft him first overall in our 4-player keeper league. But, Im not liking this so far. I wanted a fairly strong preseason and flashes of a workhorse back. Instaed, the dude hasnt taken the field yet and is already dealing with nagging issues. I know, probably overblown, but you still hate to see this. And, Im not sold on the Steelers offense as much I have been in years past. Wallace leaving will hurt.

 

I dunno....damnit....

[DrG 102]

No i think the rookie rb class is nothing special and now this

[montana 89]

This is a situation where he will probably still go early fourth, even with knee scares. I would love for his adp to drop but there is always one over zealous owner who has that rookie love (in all fairness last year it kind of paid off).

Tip of the hat Sir

[Matt Mueller 146]

Bell will not be on my squads this year. I may miss the boat but I'm taking more proven options and not hoping for another Martin light situation on what was a pretty poor rushing team last year.

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

It is a huge risk and I just can't think of one Rb who had knee or any decent issues in preseason and went on to have monster year same goes with Charles it's still an issue and its going to be re aggravated in the sport of football

[DankNuggs 305]

"I'll take overreacting to minor preseason news for $200, Alex"

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Loved him before the knee issue but I am a tad scared off now. Hopefully things will become clearer in the next week or so but he's a bit of a gamble right now. Problem is you're nearly forced to draft another RB2 as insurance so you almost have to go RB/RB/RB

[giraldi02 474]

A rookie running back that hasn't seen the field at all in preseason games is not getting drafted by me in a redraft. Dynasty is a whole nother animal...but this guy is DND

[5Year1 23]

There is always risk and uncertainties with rookie RBs and this doesn't help. I have two drafts this weekend and today knocked him down 4 slots. Behind Deangelo Williams now who looks better and better with J Stewart getting more and more doubtful every day. Bell is now in a group around Mendenhall and Bradshaw.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

Could be the steal of draft ..wish he was healthy to be more confident in him

I'm going to say it again. lol Those "reaching" for Bell are going to be disappointed. He ran over vastly undersized linebackers in college. So? Watch his game tape on youtube. He runs lateral, not north/south. That isn't going to work in the NFL and certainly not against 3 very solid run defenses in his division. I don't think he's a bust per se, but he's so overhyped that it would be hard to not call him that. I've seen him go in the late 3rd to the late 4th. I just don't see it guys. He was being drafted drafted correctly two months ago, in the late 5th and early 6th. Now, not so much. Good luck to you if you take him, but his floor is too low for me. This guy doesn't have "moves like Bettis" and I don't know that you can teach toughness. We shall see. Myself, I'm looking forward to playing those who draft him as their RB2.

[murf74 461]

I'm going to say it again. lol Those "reaching" for Bell are going to be disappointed. He ran over vastly undersized linebackers in college. So? Watch his game tape on youtube. He runs lateral, not north/south. That isn't going to work in the NFL and certainly not against 3 very solid run defenses in his division. I don't think he's a bust per se, but he's so overhyped that it would be hard to not call him that. I've seen him go in the late 3rd to the late 4th. I just don't see it guys. He was being drafted drafted correctly two months ago, in the late 5th and early 6th. Now, not so much. Good luck to you if you take him, but his floor is too low for me. This guy doesn't have "moves like Bettis" and I don't know that you can teach toughness. We shall see. Myself, I'm looking forward to playing those who draft him as their RB2.

 

Welcome to the new one cut zone blocking scheme the Steelers have converted to. Runs lateral? Look at this video if you want some "north and south" running its the majority of his highlights. The Big 10 is a lot of things, but undersized defenders is not one of them. Slow? Yes. Undersized? No.

 

 

BTW his knee injury is not serious http://www.thestate.com/2013/08/16/2924432/steelers-rb-bell-returns-to-practice.html

 

 

Why are people putting him on the DND list? 3 down RBs are hard to find. And Tomlin is not quick to put a rookie in over vets so Tomlin having him run with the first means he is special. Pouncy is only rookie who was inserted that quickly in the starting lineup.

[giraldi02 474]

 

Why are people putting him on the DND list? 3 down RBs are hard to find. And Tomlin is not quick to put a rookie in over vets so Tomlin having him run with the first means he is special. Pouncy is only rookie who was inserted that quickly in the starting lineup.

 

In a re-draft league, I'm not touching him until I see him play in a game situation against a defense not wearing black and gold. I want to see him pass protect in an NFL game where he has to protect the franchise quarterback. With most drafts coming up in a little over one week...the question that many are asking is will that be possible? Personally, I would rather avoid the situation entirely unless he starts to slip down the draft boards.

 

If I'm doing a dynasty league, he should continue to go where he has been...both in startups as well as rookie drafts. But in a re-draft...I'd rather get someone like Vereen almost 20 picks later

[DrMantisToboggan 5]

2 star recruit coming out of high school

 

What RB was ever rated that low and ended up being a good NFL back?

 

Spiller, TRich, Shady =5 star recruits

 

 

RB high school recruiting rankings translate better to NFL than any other position.

 

He could absolutely be the exception to the rule, but I will not touch bc of this and like others have said we haven't seen him play.

 

Also, Tomlin said he and Redman are co-starters before the knee injury

 

DND for me too

[We Tigers 71]

2 star recruit coming out of high school

 

What RB was ever rated that low and ended up being a good NFL back?

 

Spiller, TRich, Shady =5 star recruits

 

 

RB high school recruiting rankings translate better to NFL than any other position.

 

He could absolutely be the exception to the rule, but I will not touch bc of this and like others have said we haven't seen him play.

 

Also, Tomlin said he and Redman are co-starters before the knee injury

 

DND for me too

 

You must not watch much college football. Have you ever heard of Doug Martin, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, or Alfred Morris? 4 of this year's top 12 RBs by ADP were 2-star recruits.

 

Yes, 5-star recruits achieve NFL success at a much, much higher rate than 2-star recruits. Indisputable. However, there's such a large volume of 2- and 3-star recruits as compared to 4- and 5-star recruits that a ton of them do get to play at the next level.

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

he returned to practice Friday and might play Monday. Guy could be the gold everyone is leaving alone in the teens of rankings

[jdon 28]

who in the ranks their pro players by their high school rankings? you must be kidding right?

 

For me I don't see anything special about Bell and that worries me. Even in dynasty leagues I see nothign exciting about Bell. I compare him to another state of michigan back: Chris perry. lots of carries, lots of heart, decent results but an NFL failure in teh making.

jdon

[jgcrawfish 232]

Yeah, I'm off the bandwagon too...even as a Steeler fan the guy is DND status for me. There's no way I'm gambling on a big durable back who's familiar with zone blocking style, has already shown he can pass protect, can catch and therefore could be on all three downs, is on a team that might be somewhat challenged to pass for a while and has no big redzone targets to throw toward. No way I'm touching that.

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

Sarcasm. And I like him too. If he's healthy all season no way he's not 9 or 10 best back

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

And I love the 2 star recruit comment. I'm pretty sure Tomlin can draft pretty well- especially in early rounds

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

Crawfish- where do you have bell ranked?

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

Crawfish- where do you have bell ranked?

[DrMantisToboggan 5]

 

You must not watch much college football. Have you ever heard of Doug Martin, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, or Alfred Morris? 4 of this year's top 12 RBs by ADP were 2-star recruits.

 

Yes, 5-star recruits achieve NFL success at a much, much higher rate than 2-star recruits. Indisputable. However, there's such a large volume of 2- and 3-star recruits as compared to 4- and 5-star recruits that a ton of them do get to play at the next level.

Ok i stand corrected. Still not taking Leveon Bell... have fun with him and the RBBC in pittsburgh.

 

I watch a ton of BCS caliber football and not impressed with Bell.

 

The rivals pic of Doug Martin looks like he was 12, no wonder he was a 2 star. Yes there are a couple of late bloomers, I will give you that

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

He's not in an rbbc. Coaches want a workhorse back after they saw all they needed to from backs last year. He ran for over 1700 yards more than ball last year in same conference.. He's 20 lbs lighter and can cut well. Don't know what you were watchibg

[Frozenbeernuts 2,111]

Ok i stand corrected. Still not taking Leveon Bell... have fun with him and the RBBC in pittsburgh.

 

I watch a ton of BCS caliber football and not impressed with Bell.

 

The rivals pic of Doug Martin looks like he was 12, no wonder he was a 2 star. Yes there are a couple of late bloomers, I will give you that

Who is the other half of this rbbc? Redman? Dwyer?

 

Part of the reason the Steelers run totals were low was because of the crap they trotted out there at rb.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Crawfish- where do you have bell ranked?

He's in my RB2 around the 15-18 range but i think the upside is higher than guys in that same range.

[FlaHawker 24]

LOL Bell is Ryan Mathews soft.

[mobb_deep 920]

LOL Bell is Ryan Mathews soft.

He runs like Chris Brown, and we all know how that worked out.

[Matt Mueller 146]

Bell will not be on my squads this year. I may miss the boat but I'm taking more proven options and not hoping for another Martin light situation on what was a pretty poor rushing team last year.

 

x2

[Phurfur 70]

Le'Veon Bell exited Monday night's preseason game against the Redskins with a right foot injury and will not return.

Bell started the game, and was making his preseason debut after missing last week's game with a left knee injury. He rushed for nine yards on four carries before leaving, but the Steelers' offensive line was getting pushed around with ease. Bell was expected to play much of the first quarter, but instead played just one series. We'll consider him day-to-day until more is learned. With Isaac Redman sitting out, Jonathan Dwyer was the next man up in the backfield.

 

[giraldi02 474]

Lol

[SigEp316 0]

I had Gore and Bell sitting there for me as a RB2....I'm glad I went Gore, I know it's preseason and he's old...but the Steelers line looks to have some issues, and with Redman, Dwyer and Bell's health...I'm feeling better and better about it. Granted Gore isn't in the best position with age and a busy backfield, I still like him to out produce Bell.

[DrG 102]

A a rookie

B already dinged up

C unknown at pro level re pass protection

D no guarantee he doesn't split carries

E I think the Steelers are closer than one would like to admit to being a rebuild

[Law 241]

There's a lot stoopid in this thread! Ranking NFL and fantasy players by recruiting numbers? Giving some half-assed scouting mumbo-jumbo about how a player is over-hyped? C'mon now! You don't think actual professional scouts and coaches might know a little more than you or I on how a player will or won't project to the NFL? Sure, they don't always get it right either, but I'd venture to say their success is higher than ours.

 

As for me, a Steelers fan, I was not overly impressed in the few carries Bell had tonight before he got hurt...again.

 

Prior to tonight, I was feeling good about his chances 250 or so touches, maybe even 300. But now, I'm not so sure. He's twice been hurt and didn't look great when he was out there.

 

Still, I never put a guy on a DND list. Now, will I not take him at point long after someone else likely will? Could happen. Heck, I'd take McFadden in the 6th if he was there! But, someone will likley taken him sooner so I did, effectively, put McFadden on a DND list. But I'd take him if no one else did, at a point.

 

For Bell, that point has dropped a little further. I don't where that point is yet, but I'd say it's a round or two later now.

[Johnson Rose 1]

E I think the Steelers are closer than one would like to admit to being a rebuild

 

pretty sure they are already in one.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

There's a lot stoopid in this thread! Ranking NFL and fantasy players by recruiting numbers? Giving some half-assed scouting mumbo-jumbo about how a player is over-hyped? C'mon now! You don't think actual professional scouts and coaches might know a little more than you or I on how a player will or won't project to the NFL? Sure, they don't always get it right either, but I'd venture to say their success is higher than ours.

 

As for me, a Steelers fan, I was not overly impressed in the few carries Bell had tonight before he got hurt...again.

 

Prior to tonight, I was feeling good about his chances 250 or so touches, maybe even 300. But now, I'm not so sure. He's twice been hurt and didn't look great when he was out there.

 

Still, I never put a guy on a DND list. Now, will I not take him at point long after someone else likely will? Could happen. Heck, I'd take McFadden in the 6th if he was there! But, someone will likley taken him sooner so I did, effectively, put McFadden on a DND list. But I'd take him if no one else did, at a point.

 

For Bell, that point has dropped a little further. I don't where that point is yet, but I'd say it's a round or two later now.

[Quickolas1 80]

Still, I never put a guy on a DND list. Now, will I not take him at point long after someone else likely will? Could happen. Heck, I'd take McFadden in the 6th if he was there! But, someone will likley taken him sooner so I did, effectively, put McFadden on a DND list. But I'd take him if no one else did, at a point.

 

 

that's what people mean when they say on DND list. of course they'd take him way later. it is not literal.

HTH

 

I was floored the first time I saw the FFT rankings and saw him at the end of a tier with Trent Rich and Matt Forte.

I wasn't sure he was one of the 5 best backs in this past rookie draft... and it wasn't exactly a strong group.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,111]

He is officially in DND territory unless at extreme value. Some bad news on his sprained foot that could end up as a lysfranc.

[FlaHawker 24]

Le'Veon Bell is the new Ryan Mathews