mattonium 4 Posted October 28, 2013 This guy looks like he's for real. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kobe808lak 7 Posted October 28, 2013 Agreed, thought about picking him up before his breakout game and I'm kicking myself now... no way I get him off waivers now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FakeFoozballIzFun 6 Posted October 28, 2013 Expected production ROS? WR3 with WR2 upside? Seems like Dalton gets the biggest swing in value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josepaz2 1 Posted October 28, 2013 Thoughts on using #1 waiver on him? Need a WR this week for sure due to bye weeks. Otherwise I could just wait for waivers to clear and pick up someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FakeFoozballIzFun 6 Posted October 28, 2013 Thoughts on using #1 waiver on him? Need a WR this week for sure due to bye weeks. Otherwise I could just wait for waivers to clear and pick up someone. I'd say wait and pick up someone like Kendall Wright or Nate Washington. They got a pretty good matchup in the Rams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 211 Posted October 28, 2013 I've been following the Marvin vs Sanu battle for a while, Sanu has continued to get the snaps. Marvin ran a grand total of 13 routes (PFF source) and he caught 4 TDs and all 8 targets. So almost one of every three times he was even running a route it was for a TD and more than half the time he ran a route he was thrown to and every time he was thrown to he caught the ball. Sanu dropped a big likely TD pass. I think we'll see Marvin get more playing time and more opportunities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5Year1 23 Posted October 29, 2013 Have waiver claims out ( will know tomorrow morning) out for him in 3 leagues. But its mainly as a Wait and See for one more week and also protection against the other teams. I'm dropping Helu, Reuben Randle and Randall Cobb to get him. The Cobb team is the only one who really needs him to be productive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MudDawgs4Life 6 Posted October 30, 2013 picked up and started jones last week because of bmarshall and T.Y. bye weeks....still lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5Year1 23 Posted October 30, 2013 picked up and started jones last week because of bmarshall and T.Y. bye weeks....still lost. But it wasn't because of Jones. He had almost as many points as Mega. Either somebody else on your team killed you or the other team threw up a big number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,159 Posted October 30, 2013 Be wary of chasing points. andrew hawkins is coming back and will steal some of the targets jones had coming his way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woble Eth 11 Posted October 30, 2013 Be wary of chasing points. andrew hawkins is coming back and will steal some of the targets jones had coming his way. +1 Happens all too often. Eddie Royal, baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bgal85 2 Posted October 30, 2013 Sanu is hurt. Marvin will be a good play this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MudDawgs4Life 6 Posted October 30, 2013 But it wasn't because of Jones. He had almost as many points as Mega. Either somebody else on your team killed you or the other team threw up a big number. haha, yes of course. i place most of the blame on mmcoy, gio bernard, ruben randle, kris durham, and garret hartley. i lost by 1.34 pts....oh yeah, and the entire st. louis rams offense for not scoring on final drive on MNF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted October 30, 2013 Frisman Jackson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,024 Posted October 30, 2013 Be wary of chasing points. andrew hawkins is coming back and will steal some of the targets jones had coming his way. This is my suspicion. Plus Jones doesn't even play a ton of snaps as it is. Granted he has totally maximized his opportunities lately but there is no way in hell that keeps up unless Cincy gets him on the field a lot more than they have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted October 30, 2013 This is my suspicion. Plus Jones doesn't even play a ton of snaps as it is. Granted he has totally maximized his opportunities lately but there is no way in hell that keeps up unless Cincy gets him on the field a lot more than they have been. I would have to think at some point that his production forces Cincy to put him on the field more. His talent is FAR superior to Mohamed Sanu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,024 Posted October 30, 2013 I would have to think at some point that his production forces Cincy to put him on the field more. His talent is FAR superior to Mohamed Sanu. That's certainly a possibility. It's also possible that Jones won't shine with an increased workload, or that Cincy loves his role as-is. We'll just have to see what the next few weeks bring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TXScubaDiver 3 Posted October 31, 2013 Sanu is questionable this week, so maybe see what an increase in snaps does for him. Gotta use him cause Percy probably won't be playing this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 31, 2013 Idk if the owners in my league know something about him or they're dumb, as Marvin went unclaimed in waivers today . He's supposed to be the top pickup this week according to the "experts" . Maybe everyone is happy with their WR depth . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 31, 2013 3 straight solid weeks of production (scoring in 4 out of 7)...is not really chasing points. Especially with reading here and there that he may start over Sanu (who his a GTD) http://www.sbnation.com/fantasy/2013/10/30/5047528/mohamed-sanu-marvin-jones-injury-fantasy-football-bengals-vs-dolphins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted October 31, 2013 3 straight solid weeks of production (scoring in 4 out of 7)...is not really chasing points. Especially with reading here and there that he may start over Sanu (who his a GTD) http://www.sbnation.com/fantasy/2013/10/30/5047528/mohamed-sanu-marvin-jones-injury-fantasy-football-bengals-vs-dolphins It might be, If Marvin cools down and becomes pedestrian then it was chasing points. If he continues on his current pace then it's a solid pickup. We won't know for a few weeks. Isn't that the chance we all take every single time we make a waiver wire move? I imagine every one of us has had several hits, and several misses while playing the waiver wire lottery. You just gotta weigh your options and take your shot when it seems worth it. Nobody knows for sure, ignore those that claim they do. It also depends on the production/potential of whoever you plan on cutting loose. I know I'm pretty much just stating the obvious here, but in my opinion Jones is worth the risk. All waiver wire picks are flyers at this point in the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC Deuce 1 Posted October 31, 2013 I packaged Romo and Marvin Jones to get Rodgers. I am extremely pleased personally. This week's bye has several teams scrambling and made this deal easier. With respect to Marvin Jones; I didn't know what to expect which is exactly why I did what I did. Hopefully, he doesn't kill it for the remainder of the year (but based on past history of my fantastic moves he will). He does look talented from the small samples I've seen of him; he caught all 8 targets which will increase the QB confidence in him. We know AJ Green is their clear #1 at this point; but it's pretty clear that the Bengals and Dalton have some offensive chemistry and should continue to score points. Someone has to get the targets and it looks like Dalton has decided he CAN spread the ball around and be successful. Jones has some HUGE upside obviously. In our league format for PPR, he had scored 19.2 and 14.2 points the previous two weeks and is 18th overall in WR rankings. The previous two weeks would be solid numbers for a Low end WR1 or higher WR2/WR3/Flex in most leagues with 10-12 teams or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connorsdad 38 Posted October 31, 2013 Yeah I agree with Shredhead. I'm hot and heavy on the waiver wire in all my leagues. I believe it's a must not only to drop players that are on IR and taking up a roster spot but to make your team stronger heading for the possible playoffs. As far as picking a player up and starting him over one of your starters is a risky game but I think it can pay off especially if that player is riding a hot streak. With all these injuries we all have questionable starters and grabbing a player like Marvin Jones while Dalton is playing so well is a smart move. Choosing whether to start Marvin Jones is the fun part. It gives you the feeling like your controlling an actual nfl team even though it's just fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted October 31, 2013 I see that Andrew Hawkins was activated from IR . Targets will be spread out more ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 31, 2013 It might be, If Marvin cools down and becomes pedestrian then it was chasing points. If he continues on his current pace then it's a solid pickup. We won't know for a few weeks. Isn't that the chance we all take every single time we make a waiver wire move? I imagine every one of us has had several hits, and several misses while playing the waiver wire lottery. You just gotta weigh your options and take your shot when it seems worth it. Nobody knows for sure, ignore those that claim they do. It also depends on the production/potential of whoever you plan on cutting loose. I know I'm pretty much just stating the obvious here, but in my opinion Jones is worth the risk. All waiver wire picks are flyers at this point in the season. The point is...nobody picking him up is chasing a 4 TD game. We know that is not going to happen again. What we are following is the 3 straight solid performances...4 games with at least a TD. At this point in the year, not much more you can expect out of a guy like this who may slide into the #2 spot on a team starting to pass pretty well and who should get nice matchups with Green getting the defenses attention. (which is why he is worth the risk as you said) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted October 31, 2013 My two win team landed him with the #2 waiver claim this week. Starting him in my flex due to injuries and byes. I feel he's flukey, but right now he's hot. Hoping it lasts one more week! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,159 Posted October 31, 2013 Bengals activated WR Andrew Hawkins (ankle) from the IR/recall list. A team already stacked with weapons gets another really good one back. The underrated Hawkins has exceptional quicks and feel coming out of the slot, using jitterbug moves at 5'7/175 to make plays. Despite limited playing time a year ago, he caught 51 passes for 533 yards with four touchdowns. Baby Hawk is unlikely to get enough opportunities to be a real fantasy factor this season, but he will steal targets from a passing game that is already spread thin behind monster A.J. Green. Hawkins could be active Thursday night, especially if Mohamad Sanu (shoulder) sits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MudDawgs4Life 6 Posted October 31, 2013 would you guys start him over dariyous heyward-bey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattonium 4 Posted October 31, 2013 +1 Happens all too often. Eddie Royal, baby. I don't think you can compare Marvin and Eddie Royal. Royal has been in the league for years and pretty much is what he is. Marvin is a 2nd year player who is proving himself and coming on. He was also really good at Cal . . . I know this as a USC fan having to worry about him. He's a good player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,159 Posted November 1, 2013 he got 10 points in a ppr last night. if thats what you are looking for from a 3rd wr then congrats....thats what ya got. if you are looking for more you are wasting your time. sure he had a big one called back but that happens all the time to every player. ya have to stick with what he scored...10 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted November 1, 2013 he got 10 points in a ppr last night. if thats what you are looking for from a 3rd wr then congrats....thats what ya got. if you are looking for more you are wasting your time. sure he had a big one called back but that happens all the time to every player. ya have to stick with what he scored...10 points. And his 50 yd TD catch called back due to a holding penalty by the OL happens all the time? To ever player in every game? He got the target and he did his part. Regardless of how you look at it , that play should have easily been 21 fpts for Jones. Name me any stud WR who doesn't have "only" 10 fpts when his 50 yd TD ages called back due to a penalty away from the ball. I'm not saying he is a stud just YET, but this guy is becoming one, and no offense to you, but you're missing the boat by being a bit of a stat monkey here. BTW, I believe his targets were again second only to Green. Seven targets,and converted 4 (five if you let me count the long TD negated by penalty).. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,159 Posted November 1, 2013 I guess ya have to believe what ya believe and what I believe is that with hawkins being mixed in his amount of playing time while low now may actually decrease. Not saying he is useless because if ya needed 9 points he would have won ya your game. However do not count on 20 point nights. he will be a number 3 with upside to a 2 if he gets the right matchups and dalton does not underthrow him. also while he may have been 2nd in targets this was hawkins first game back and was not fully mixed in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted November 1, 2013 Let's agree to disagree then friend. i only wish that i had had enough ammunition in my blind bids to successfully compete for him this week, because i could have used him down the stretch. I think I'll look back and see him as that big fish that got away close to the net. Believe me, he WILL be a prime target of mine in off-season dynasty league trading. (And I shouldn't have said that because i play agains quite a few FFtoday 'ears' in the dynasty leagues I'm in. So now you've got me agreeing with you. Ignore that last statement. Not much to see here with Jones. Move along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 1, 2013 I guess ya have to believe what ya believe and what I believe is that with hawkins being mixed in his amount of playing time while low now may actually decrease. Not saying he is useless because if ya needed 9 points he would have won ya your game. However do not count on 20 point nights. he will be a number 3 with upside to a 2 if he gets the right matchups and dalton does not underthrow him. also while he may have been 2nd in targets this was hawkins first game back and was not fully mixed in. I don't think anyone picked him up thinking they were getting any more than a WR3 with a WR2 upsides. Just to note...I don't have him in any league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted November 1, 2013 Not trying to highjack this thread, but i was able to pick up another WR i've got great expectations for - Kenny Stills. Yes, even though I have a mancrush on Stills future, I'd rather have M Jones. Last night i was offered Ben Tate (unrestricted free agent next year - and i also own Foster anyway) and Stills in my FB dynasty league for Demarco Murray. i had to drop my weakest RB DeAngelo Williams (since I've got A Brown coming back) and my trading partner picked him up. So it was Murray and De Williams for B Tate and Stills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grateful Parrot 0 Posted November 1, 2013 I don't think anyone picked him up thinking they were getting any more than a WR3 with a WR2 upsides. Just to note...I don't have him in any league. Good posting. Exactly. I picked him up, but only for bye week fill in. Do I think he will perform like Jordy or Welker, HELL NO, wasn't looking for that. But, he's a very good WR3 and come playoffs, when others are resting, he will still be playing, I need those points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted November 1, 2013 My two win team landed him with the #2 waiver claim this week. Starting him in my flex due to injuries and byes. I feel he's flukey, but right now he's hot. Hoping it lasts one more week! Is anyone b!tching about a 10 point night from a bye-week fill-in at this point? I know I'm not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted November 1, 2013 Marvin Jones is going to be a little frustrating to own as long as the Bengals continue to like Mohamed Sanu in 2 WR sets for some reason. In my opinion, the talent disparity between Jones and Sanu isn't even close. But again last night, Sanu continued to be on the field for about half the two WR sets it seemed like. Sanu had at least 2 bad drops that I saw but he did finish with 6 catches for 62 yards on 9 targets (2nd to only Green). Marvin Jones had 7 targets. Jones is the much higher upside/ceiling guy but Sanu will continue to hurt his value as long as the Bengals continue to put him on the field more than he should be in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted November 1, 2013 Marvin Jones is going to be a little frustrating to own as long as the Bengals continue to like Mohamed Sanu in 2 WR sets for some reason. In my opinion, the talent disparity between Jones and Sanu isn't even close. But again last night, Sanu continued to be on the field for about half the two WR sets it seemed like. Sanu had at least 2 bad drops that I saw but he did finish with 6 catches for 62 yards on 9 targets (2nd to only Green). Marvin Jones had 7 targets. Jones is the much higher upside/ceiling guy but Sanu will continue to hurt his value as long as the Bengals continue to put him on the field more than he should be in my opinion. Jones looked great. If it wasn't for that stupid holding penalty (wouldn't have changed outcome of the play) he would had a nice stat line with a TD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
