Now that the transcripts have been released for deflategate.....

[edjr 6,308]

Why are none of the haters talking about the NFL and their blatant lying?

 

David Gardi - NFL Senior VP - Lied his balls off.

 

 

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/introducing-dave-gardi-another-nfl-executive-who-lied-about-the-psi-recordings/

 

 

Why is the NFL lying? Why did they release false reports through mort? WHY?

 

 

The colts yesterday denied they had anything to do with complaining to the NFL about the balls. More Lies.

 

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/the-colts-begging-for-the-nfl-to-save-them-from-getting-destroyed-by-the-pats-is-laugh-out-loud-funny/

 

 

Why are they all lying?

 

 

The wells report released the last 4 digits of Brady's cell phone, people started guessing his number and calling/texting him, so he got a new phone and number

[IGotWorms 4,028]

Bullsh1t, all of it

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Probably because both sides are lying.

 

None of this, including any adjudicating by a 3rd party (Federal judge or other), will change anyone's thinking. Those who think that the Pats are cheaters will think that way regardless of what is in the transcript or what comes out in court. Those who think that the NFL is out to get the Pats will think that way regardless of what happens.

 

It is all BS that is playing out in the media and being way overblown.

[edjr 6,308]

Probably because both sides are lying.

 

None of this, including any adjudicating by a 3rd party (Federal judge or other), will change anyone's thinking. Those who think that the Pats are cheaters will think that way regardless of what is in the transcript or what comes out in court. Those who think that the NFL is out to get the Pats will think that way regardless of what happens.

 

It is all BS that is playing out in the media and being way overblown.

 

I get why Brady would lie, for obvious reasons. Not saying he did or didn't.

 

Why the fock would the NFL lie?

 

That would be like going to court for a DUI and the judge telling everyone he was out drinking with you before you got in the car?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

 

I get why Brady would lie, for obvious reasons. Not saying he did or didn't.

 

Why the fock would the NFL lie?

 

That would be like going to court for a DUI and the judge telling everyone he was out drinking with you before you got in the car?

 

Why would they lie? Depends on who you are talking about.

Kensil, Vincent, et al - Because they hate the Patriots and wanted to catch them in the act. Would have been a great coup if they weren't bungling idiots.

Goodell - Because they want to make sure that the court of public opinion is all on board with their over-the-top punishment. Goodell needs to keep control over all appeals. As such, he needs to make sure that everyone views the Patriots as the bad-guy and he is the savior.

[Mike Honcho 4,732]

You know what, I've changed my mind...don't suspend Brady, just SUSPEND every focking patriots fan from for 8 weeks. Seriously, you guys make Cowboy fans seem mature.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

The NFL has botched this whole thing from the beginning. It's like when Dan Rather got busted about Bush's military records. It was the truth about Bush, but his methods to prove it were wrong. I think the Balls were deflated, but the investigation was obviously biased towards the outcome the NFL had predetermined. It's like a witness or a cop lying on the stand about some of their testimony, which negates all of their testimony, even the true parts.

[edjr 6,308]

You know what, I've changed my mind...don't suspend Brady, just SUSPEND every focking patriots fan from for 8 weeks. Seriously, you guys make Cowboy fans seem mature.

The truth shall set you free.

[edjr 6,308]

The NFL has botched this whole thing from the beginning. It's like when Dan Rather got busted about Bush's military records. It was the truth about Bush, but his methods to prove it were wrong. I think the Balls were deflated, but the investigation was obviously biased towards the outcome the NFL had predetermined. It's like a witness or a cop lying on the stand about some of their testimony, which negates all of their testimony, even the true parts.

 

Not only was the whole thing botched, the penalties were so over the top. There was no way they would get away with it.

[Herbivore 1,033]

You know what, I've changed my mind...don't suspend Brady, just SUSPEND every focking patriots fan from for 8 weeks. Seriously, you guys make Cowboy fans seem mature.

 

the tuck rule

 

the pats tried to steal our signals

 

we don't like how the pats handle the injury report

 

[whine] we got confused by the pats formations

 

[whine] their balls had a low psi.

 

Who's whining?

 

stupid emoticon limit!

[Strike 4,815]

Personally, I really don't care about this issue. Slightly deflated balls aren't why the Pats won the superbowl. So who gives a fock? But it's entertaining. But if the Pats didn't do anything wrong why did they willingly accept the punishment the NFL gave them? And why did they fire people over the issue? As far as Brady goes, I have no doubt he was involved in the deflating of the balls. He wanted them a certain PSI and he worked with people in the Pats organization to make it happen. And he denies that. The NFL is pissed that they've had to go through all this crap because he won't admit it, so they're penalizing him harshly. And both sides are spinning it to try to gain public favor to their "side". Again, don't really care but it's entertaining.

[edjr 6,308]

And why did they fire people over the issue?

you can keep lying, it doesn't make it any more true.

 

They suspended them at the behest of the NFL.

 

HTH

[Strike 4,815]

you can keep lying, it doesn't make it any more true.

 

They suspended them at the behest of the NFL.

 

HTH

 

Not lieing. My understanding was they were fired. Do you have a link to the "facts"?

[GobbleDog 918]

The most uninteresting sports story ever... and 9 months later it still won't go away.

[Herbivore 1,033]

Personally, I really don't care about this issue. Slightly deflated balls aren't why the Pats won the superbowl. So who gives a fock? But it's entertaining. But if the Pats didn't do anything wrong why did they willingly accept the punishment the NFL gave them? And why did they fire people over the issue? As far as Brady goes, I have no doubt he was involved in the deflating of the balls. He wanted them a certain PSI and he worked with people in the Pats organization to make it happen. And he denies that. The NFL is pissed that they've had to go through all this crap because he won't admit it, so they're penalizing him harshly. And both sides are spinning it to try to gain public favor to their "side". Again, don't really care but it's entertaining.

 

I don't think they had to go thru this at all. They very easily could have given them a reasonable fine, even if it was 2 million, and taken a mid round pick. There is no denying that the balls were under the acceptable level. Even if taking into account the Ideal Gas Law, the one ball at 10.5 points to maybe not all Gas Law related. There is almost no chance of proving a devious plan to mess with the balls. They have wasted time and money based on, imo, Roger trying to win a public relations battle, by using the Cheatriots crowd. There was at least some lack of procedure with regards to handling/measuring the balls pregame. The referees of the NFL touch the balls between every play. They seemed to ok with with what they were handling.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

Doesn't matter. Pats fans are going to spend the rest of their lives defending their Lie-nasty instead of enjoying it. What a waste.

[edjr 6,308]

Doesn't matter. Pats fans are going to spend the rest of their lives defending their Lie-nasty instead of enjoying it. What a waste.

 

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[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

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18 and doh!

[edjr 6,308]

18 and doh!

 

4 to 2

[IGotWorms 4,028]

You know what, I've changed my mind...don't suspend Brady, just SUSPEND every focking patriots fan from for 8 weeks. Seriously, you guys make Cowboy fans seem mature.

Hilarious that the guy throwing a tantrum says pats fans are crybabies

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

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You know the Giants have won 4 Super Bowls. Right?

[Mike Honcho 4,732]

Hilarious that the guy throwing a tantrum says pats fans are crybabies

 

Awesome, "the I know you are but what am I" defense. Guess you're saving " I'm rubber your glue" for later.

[Kanil 520]

Oh man... this is good. Let's see the spin from the Pats homers now.

[edjr 6,308]

You know the Giants have won 4 Super Bowls. Right?

 

 

Tom Terrific 4 - Eli Dilfer - 2

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

 

Tom Terrific 4 - Eli Dilfer - 2

Ok. You didn't need to point that out to prove CryBrady is better. Sensitive these days. And 4-2 is also Tawmees record in Super Bowls. GOAT Montana was undefeated.

[edjr 6,308]

Ok. You didn't need to point that out to prove CryBrady is better. Sensitive these days. And 4-2 is also Tawmees record in Super Bowls. GOAT Montana was undefeated.

 

I don't claim Brady is the GOAT. He is behind Elway and Montana in my eyes.

 

His career isn't over yet.

 

If he had Eli Dilfer's defense, he'd be 6 and 0, we all know that

[NewbieJr 541]

Now that it's been 7 months since this all began, here's my opinion:

 

1. Brady definitely cheated. The Deflator and destroying cell phone are proof in my book.

2. The penalty is too stiff. Fine and two game suspension would be fine. Draft picks are a little over the top.

3. At this point, it's like two middle school girl (Brady & Goodell) simply not wanting to budge.

4. #2 could have easily been avoided by Brady early on.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

Tom Terrific 4 - Eli Dilfer - 2

No one really knows if Brady ever won a legit one

[edjr 6,308]

Most amazing thing to come out of this entire catastrophe?

 

Belicheat knew NOTHING of this entire thing?

 

Right.

[edjr 6,308]

Ok. You didn't need to point that out to prove CryBrady is better. Sensitive these days. And 4-2 is also Tawmees record in Super Bowls. GOAT Montana was undefeated.

 

https://vine.co/v/e5uFxhEBeX2

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

I don't claim Brady is the GOAT. He is behind Elway and Montana in my eyes.

 

His career isn't over yet.

 

If he had Eli Dilfer's defense, he'd be 6 and 0, we all know that

Yeah, that horrible Patriot defense gave up a whopping 17 points in 18 and doh, and 21 in the encore. A great QB would win those games.

[parrot 789]

Ok. You didn't need to point that out to prove CryBrady is better. Sensitive these days. And 4-2 is also Tawmees record in Super Bowls. GOAT Montana was undefeated.

 

Ah, the old "coming in 3rd or 4th or 17th is better than coming is 2nd" argument. Haven't seen it in a while.

[edjr 6,308]

Yeah, that horrible Patriot defense gave up a whopping 17 points in 18 and doh, and 21 in the encore. A great QB would win those games.

 

Eli sucks that is why they scored 17.

 

 

https://vine.co/v/e5uFxhEBeX2

[Cloaca du jour 2,126]

You know the Giants have won 4 Super Bowls. Right?

Steelers have even more

[edjr 6,308]

Steelers have even more

 

 

Are any of the steroid abusers even alive?

 

 

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[RLLD 3,928]

It was the guy on the grassy knoll in the study with a psi needle....

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

 

Are any of the steroid abusers even alive?

 

 

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2-0

[Djgb13 2,339]

I'm sorry but why the hell isnt anyone other than patriot fans upset that the nfl has been blatantly caught in a lie? Same goes for The Ravens and Colts. No involvement yet there's an official record stating they were. Come on. I know you guys don't like the patriots but even you have to acknowledge that the nfl lied and so did those other teams.

[NewbieJr 541]

I'm sorry but why the hell isnt anyone other than patriot fans upset that the nfl has been blatantly caught in a lie? Same goes for The Ravens and Colts. No involvement yet there's an official record stating they were. Come on. I know you guys don't like the patriots but even you have to acknowledge that the nfl lied and so did those other teams.

Because the whole thing is the result of another incident where the Patriots cheated and lied. If you're looking for compassion from the other 31 teams, you can forget it.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Because the whole thing is the result of another incident where the Patriots cheated and lied. If you're looking for compassion from the other 31 teams, you can forget it.

Honestly I couldn't care less what you and everyone else thinks about the patriots. My thing is there's no proof that the patriots lied or cheated. Just circumstantial evidence. However there is clear proof that the nfl, Ravens, and colts lied. Don't care if you still think the patriots did it but you should at least start to wonder "if the nfl lied about this then what else are they lying about?"