thePRO 78 Posted August 26, 2018 So thanks to PS, what are some guys that moved up the board for you?? Peyton Barber Guys who moved down...? 1) Anyone on the Eagles offense 2) McCoy (obvious one) 3) Allen Robinson (He's going in the 5th round; just unsure about him being drafted that early) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,006 Posted August 27, 2018 M Evans And I agree about Robinson. Drake sounds like the head coach wants a true RBBC, I don’t get it myself. Drake was really good last season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpenceToons 70 Posted August 27, 2018 In the Moving Down department... Randall Cobb hasn't had any receptions this preseason. I see Adams with three nice grabs and Graham with a TD but nothing for Cobb. I don't have figures for whether he had any targets or how many snaps he had. A blurb check just shows the last two that discuss whether or not he was being shopped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted August 27, 2018 Royce Freeman. Has been very impressive during the pre-season. He's a bigger, faster CJ Anderson. Should be Top 15 this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutdown 40 Posted August 27, 2018 Up Marquis Goodwin - I think just seeing the connection continue with Garrapolo was enough to move him into solid WR 2 territory John Ross - Even though he's not a proven route runner, he'll be getting a lot of single coverage looks this year starting opposite of AJ Green Keelan Cole - I already thought he'd lead the Jags in receiving before Lee got hurt. This just helps his volume Aaron Jones - Not for what he's done, but what others haven't. He may be the only real threat at RB Green Bay has. The others appear to be bodies at best. James White - I think he's the only patriot RB that's healthy with a defined role. Alex Collins - Dixon has proven to be no threat and the Ravens offense looks to be vastly better with actual receiving weapons and their best OL player back. Carlos Hyde - Both he and Chubb have looked good running behind that line. If the team can improve and provide more running game scripts he'll easily out perform ADP Eric Ebron - Moves into the draftable realm as Luck's going to have to resort more to the short passing game. Taywan Taylor - Impressive pre-season. May not be draft-able even in 12-teamers, but if Matthews can't stay healthy or Davis disappoints, he could be in-line for a decent season Royce Freeman - Looks to be the real deal and the only rookie RB aside from Saquon with a given role and workload Jordy Nelson - Mostly from camp reports that indicate he's still Jordy and that last year's issues were QB play not his play Chris Carson - Not only can penny not block and got hurt, but Carson looks like he did early last year. Peyton Barber - See Chris Carson, except Jones has been healthy Michael Gallup - Seems to have chemistry with Dak and there's no one else on that team to catch passes Dallas Goedart - Alshon still isn't ready and the guy is monster with great receiving skills. Could be a default red-zone target Down All Bills Players - That o-line looks even worse than I thought Robbie Anderson - Will still be good, but the proven connection was with McKown. If Darnold starts I'm not sure what he does as I haven't seen him go down the field all that much. Sony Michel - I thought that when NE used that much draft capital to get him he was in line for a lot of work, but he's got to get on the field first Joe Mixon - I was on the Mixon hype train earlier, but Bernard has looked more efficient when he's played so I don't think he's going away I. Crowell - Looks like he'll share more carries with Powell than originally expected TY Hilton - I don't like luck's admission that his arm strength isn't all the way back Jordan Wilkins - He's behind Christine Micheal for playing time? Rashard Penny - See Carson Above D. Johnson / L Fitzgerald - The zona offense just has looked off to me Jerrick Mckinnon - I'm wondering if the "can he handle that workload" question has been answered for us Ronald Jones - See Payton Barber O.J. Howard - Just too many mouths to feed to justify picking him as a starting te. Brate, Godwin, Williams all big targets in the red zone. Dalvin Cook - I always had him a little lower coming off the injury, but that O-line is a mess now C. McCaffery - I hope they don't run him like they say they will, because he cannot move the chains as a between the tackles RB. He'll still be fine as a high second round pick but I can't see him averaging more than 3.5 per carry if they insist on using him as the hammer Cam Merideth - Currently Behind Trequon Smith? Zeke - Calm down we're talking a spot or two here, but the OL issues are mounting and with no proven passing game I'm wondering if the field get a lot tighter for him than it's ever been 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,525 Posted August 27, 2018 Royce Freeman. Has been very impressive during the pre-season. He's a bigger, faster CJ Anderson. Should be Top 15 this year. What is your take on him catching passes on a regular basis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted August 27, 2018 Up Marquis Goodwin - I think just seeing the connection continue with Garrapolo was enough to move him into solid WR 2 territory John Ross - Even though he's not a proven route runner, he'll be getting a lot of single coverage looks this year starting opposite of AJ Green Keelan Cole - I already thought he'd lead the Jags in receiving before Lee got hurt. This just helps his volume Aaron Jones - Not for what he's done, but what others haven't. He may be the only real threat at RB Green Bay has. The others appear to be bodies at best. James White - I think he's the only patriot RB that's healthy with a defined role. Alex Collins - Dixon has proven to be no threat and the Ravens offense looks to be vastly better with actual receiving weapons and their best OL player back. Carlos Hyde - Both he and Chubb have looked good running behind that line. If the team can improve and provide more running game scripts he'll easily out perform ADP Eric Ebron - Moves into the draftable realm as Luck's going to have to resort more to the short passing game. Taywan Taylor - Impressive pre-season. May not be draft-able even in 12-teamers, but if Matthews can't stay healthy or Davis disappoints, he could be in-line for a decent season Royce Freeman - Looks to be the real deal and the only rookie RB aside from Saquon with a given role and workload Jordy Nelson - Mostly from camp reports that indicate he's still Jordy and that last year's issues were QB play not his play Chris Carson - Not only can penny not block and got hurt, but Carson looks like he did early last year. Peyton Barber - See Chris Carson, except Jones has been healthy Michael Gallup - Seems to have chemistry with Dak and there's no one else on that team to catch passes Dallas Goedart - Alshon still isn't ready and the guy is monster with great receiving skills. Could be a default red-zone target Down All Bills Players - That o-line looks even worse than I thought Robbie Anderson - Will still be good, but the proven connection was with McKown. If Darnold starts I'm not sure what he does as I haven't seen him go down the field all that much. Sony Michel - I thought that when NE used that much draft capital to get him he was in line for a lot of work, but he's got to get on the field first Joe Mixon - I was on the Mixon hype train earlier, but Bernard has looked more efficient when he's played so I don't think he's going away I. Crowell - Looks like he'll share more carries with Powell than originally expected TY Hilton - I don't like luck's admission that his arm strength isn't all the way back Jordan Wilkins - He's behind Christine Micheal for playing time? Rashard Penny - See Carson Above D. Johnson / L Fitzgerald - The zona offense just has looked off to me Jerrick Mckinnon - I'm wondering if the "can he handle that workload" question has been answered for us Ronald Jones - See Payton Barber O.J. Howard - Just too many mouths to feed to justify picking him as a starting te. Brate, Godwin, Williams all big targets in the red zone. Dalvin Cook - I always had him a little lower coming off the injury, but that O-line is a mess now C. McCaffery - I hope they don't run him like that say, because he cannot move the chains as a between the tackles RB. He'll still be fine as a high second round pick but I can't see him averaging more than 3.5 per carry if they insist on using him as the hammer Cam Merideth - Currently Behind Trequon Smith? Zeke - Calm down we're talking a spot or two here, but the OL issues are mounting and with no proven passing game I'm wondering if the field get a lot tighter for him than it's ever been good list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted August 28, 2018 What is your take on him catching passes on a regular basis? He wasn't used much in the passing game last year at Oregon, though he did have 347 yards receiving his sophomore season. Freeman should get around 220 yards receiving. Passing down work may get ceded to Booker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 596 Posted August 28, 2018 I don't think this moves him up in fantasy, but in life definitely, as OBJ reportedly signs an extension with 65 million guaranteed, crazy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted August 28, 2018 Up Marquis Goodwin - I think just seeing the connection continue with Garrapolo was enough to move him into solid WR 2 territory John Ross - Even though he's not a proven route runner, he'll be getting a lot of single coverage looks this year starting opposite of AJ Green Keelan Cole - I already thought he'd lead the Jags in receiving before Lee got hurt. This just helps his volume Aaron Jones - Not for what he's done, but what others haven't. He may be the only real threat at RB Green Bay has. The others appear to be bodies at best. James White - I think he's the only patriot RB that's healthy with a defined role. Alex Collins - Dixon has proven to be no threat and the Ravens offense looks to be vastly better with actual receiving weapons and their best OL player back. Carlos Hyde - Both he and Chubb have looked good running behind that line. If the team can improve and provide more running game scripts he'll easily out perform ADP Eric Ebron - Moves into the draftable realm as Luck's going to have to resort more to the short passing game. Taywan Taylor - Impressive pre-season. May not be draft-able even in 12-teamers, but if Matthews can't stay healthy or Davis disappoints, he could be in-line for a decent season Royce Freeman - Looks to be the real deal and the only rookie RB aside from Saquon with a given role and workload Jordy Nelson - Mostly from camp reports that indicate he's still Jordy and that last year's issues were QB play not his play Chris Carson - Not only can penny not block and got hurt, but Carson looks like he did early last year. Peyton Barber - See Chris Carson, except Jones has been healthy Michael Gallup - Seems to have chemistry with Dak and there's no one else on that team to catch passes Dallas Goedart - Alshon still isn't ready and the guy is monster with great receiving skills. Could be a default red-zone target Down All Bills Players - That o-line looks even worse than I thought Robbie Anderson - Will still be good, but the proven connection was with McKown. If Darnold starts I'm not sure what he does as I haven't seen him go down the field all that much. Sony Michel - I thought that when NE used that much draft capital to get him he was in line for a lot of work, but he's got to get on the field first Joe Mixon - I was on the Mixon hype train earlier, but Bernard has looked more efficient when he's played so I don't think he's going away I. Crowell - Looks like he'll share more carries with Powell than originally expected TY Hilton - I don't like luck's admission that his arm strength isn't all the way back Jordan Wilkins - He's behind Christine Micheal for playing time? Rashard Penny - See Carson Above D. Johnson / L Fitzgerald - The zona offense just has looked off to me Jerrick Mckinnon - I'm wondering if the "can he handle that workload" question has been answered for us Ronald Jones - See Payton Barber O.J. Howard - Just too many mouths to feed to justify picking him as a starting te. Brate, Godwin, Williams all big targets in the red zone. Dalvin Cook - I always had him a little lower coming off the injury, but that O-line is a mess now C. McCaffery - I hope they don't run him like they say they will, because he cannot move the chains as a between the tackles RB. He'll still be fine as a high second round pick but I can't see him averaging more than 3.5 per carry if they insist on using him as the hammer Cam Merideth - Currently Behind Trequon Smith? Zeke - Calm down we're talking a spot or two here, but the OL issues are mounting and with no proven passing game I'm wondering if the field get a lot tighter for him than it's ever been This is a solid list. I was so high as Zeke at #2, but that entire offense has me worried. McCaffrey is a tough one though. That offense will run through Cam which should help open some things for CM. Hopefully a lot of RPO and Cam running the QB option. McCaffrey is getting GL carries too. Don't know how effective that is, but it's nice. The targets and receptions will be there. He's actually moving up in PPR for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi Sensei 17 Posted August 28, 2018 Is it me or is Sterling Shepard undervalued as WR56/11th Rd?? I know...OBJ is back & healthy, Engram and Barkley will balance the O. He's got top25 WR potential all over him, tho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,006 Posted August 28, 2018 I think Shepherd could be a wr3 also. But then again Beckham, Engram , Barkely and Gallman. Shepherd post three really good games last season and some good, but Beckham of course wasn’t playing. I like Shepherd with Eli at Qb a lot more as a very high wr4 and low wr3. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted August 28, 2018 I also like Emmanuel Sanders with his ADP around 7.6. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted August 28, 2018 Jordan Wilkins is behind Michael? Not based on their third preseason game. Still think he's a solid late round flier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted August 28, 2018 I also like Emmanuel Sanders with his ADP around 7.6. Absolutely. He is a high value pick this year. Sanders can be had three rounds later than Demaryius Thomas in most drafts. This may be the year where Emmanuel overtakes DT as the number 1 WR in Denver. And the new kid Courtland Sutton has been sensational in training camp and in the preseason. Sutton is a DT clone, and will more than likely take targets away from Thomas, not Sanders. Sanders has shown very good chemistry with Case Keenum during the pre-season. Keenum loves to target WRs in the slot, and that's where Sanders will be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,006 Posted August 28, 2018 Would also agree about Sanders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGiantJets 18 Posted August 28, 2018 I also like Emmanuel Sanders with his ADP around 7.6. If thats moving up then Im moving out. I do agree with Sanders. Hopefully will produce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted August 29, 2018 I'm starting to see Amendola going up my board. He's inheriting the Jarvis Landry role in Miami, and all the other WR's suck. It's never been his talent, but his health that has kept him. I think he's going to be a PPR monster and exceed his ADP of 13th round'ish. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,192 Posted August 29, 2018 Why Sterling Shepard will be on my team: https://www.bigblueview.com/2017/11/15/16648648/ny-giants-sterling-shepard-san-francisco-49ers-film-study-analysis-catch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted August 29, 2018 Keenum loves to target WRs in the slot, and that's where Sanders will be. What evidence do you have to support this statement? Thielen was his guy last season, who played anything but. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted August 29, 2018 I also like Ross a lot. I know it was a single pay but he showed OBJ/Hill type speed and acceleration. That also leads to moving Dalton up the board. He now has a home run hitter to go along with one of the best red zone guys in Green and the best receiving backfield in Mixon/Goo. Eiffert can be limited to a red zone threat. Keenan Cole is also rising. He had that Adam Thielen type finish last year. Now he could be the #1. He is a receiver that didn't test well but just makes plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cousinal111 57 Posted August 29, 2018 What evidence do you have to support this statement? Thielen was his guy last season, who played anything but. Support Sanders in the slot? https://twitter.com/Pat_Thorman/status/1033332688785219584?s=19 After running 74% of his routes out of the slot last night, #Broncos Emmanuel Sanders preseason slot rate is up to 64%. Last season it was 28%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 133 Posted August 29, 2018 Support Sanders in the slot? https://twitter.com/Pat_Thorman/status/1033332688785219584?s=19 After running 74% of his routes out of the slot last night, #Broncos Emmanuel Sanders preseason slot rate is up to 64%. Last season it was 28%. He was referring to the other part of the statement, that Keenum loves to target slot players. His point is Thielen was the main target for Keenum and Thielen did not play slot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutdown 40 Posted August 29, 2018 Jordan Wilkins is behind Michael? Not based on their third preseason game. Still think he's a solid late round flier. For what it's worth the colts still have Mack 1, Turbin 2, everybody else 3 on their depth chart. Michael ran with the ones in game 2, Wilkins ran with the ones in game 3. Neither was impressive in game 3. For where you can get him it's not a bad pick as there really are no bad picks at that point. My commentary was more in regards to the opportunity that was open to him (Mack hurt, Turbin Suspended) and he hasn't clearly grabbed the lead back role over the other remaining scrubs in that backfield, that's why I felt preseason hurt his fantasy stock more than it helped, thus the moving down comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornKobb 48 Posted August 29, 2018 I'm starting to see Amendola going up my board. He's inheriting the Jarvis Landry role in Miami, and all the other WR's suck. It's never been his talent, but his health that has kept him. I think he's going to be a PPR monster and exceed his ADP of 13th round'ish. that..... and like not love emanuel sanders too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cousinal111 57 Posted August 29, 2018 He was referring to the other part of the statement, that Keenum loves to target slot players. His point is Thielen was the main target for Keenum and Thielen did not play slot. Gotcha. This article was preseason 2017 about Vikings planning to use Thielen in the slot more - http://m.startribune.com/vikings-using-receiver-adam-thielen-in-the-slot-for-greater-versatility/441564073/ This article is after the 2017 season - https://www.google.com/amp/s/thevikingage.com/2018/02/26/minnesota-vikings-adam-thielen-pff-top-101-2017-list/amp/ "Among wide receivers with at least 120 routes run from the slot, Thielen finished tied for second with an average 2.11 yards per route run." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,525 Posted August 29, 2018 Gotcha. This article was preseason 2017 about Vikings planning to use Thielen in the slot more - http://m.startribune.com/vikings-using-receiver-adam-thielen-in-the-slot-for-greater-versatility/441564073/ This article is after the 2017 season - https://www.google.com/amp/s/thevikingage.com/2018/02/26/minnesota-vikings-adam-thielen-pff-top-101-2017-list/amp/ "Among wide receivers with at least 120 routes run from the slot, Thielen finished tied for second with an average 2.11 yards per route run." I'm feeling Diggs will get more attention in this offense. But Minnesota having both him and Thielen is a great problem to have. Here is one blurb from RotoBaller: "Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs had four catches for 51 yards as part of a 21-20 win over the Seattle Seahawks on Friday night. Diggs was targeted a team-high eight times by quarterback Kirk Cousins, and he has now caught 7-of-12 targets for 86 yards and a touchdown in the preseason. Diggs has seemingly built up very good chemistry with the team's new quarterback and has plenty of upside as a solid WR1 heading into the 2018 season." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,006 Posted August 29, 2018 Ross just has disappointment written all over him. I it will be very frustrating to own him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted August 29, 2018 A lot of my draft picks from this summer's startup. Not bragging just reality. Keelan Cole Peyton Barber Nelson Agholor Chris Godwin Dallas Goedert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 1, 2018 A lot of my draft picks from this summer's startup. Not bragging just reality. Keelan Cole Peyton Barber Nelson Agholor Chris Godwin Dallas Goedert Come on man... come on. How deep is your league? I literally just googled Dallas Goedert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted September 1, 2018 Come on man... come on. How deep is your league? I literally just googled Dallas Goedert It's a dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawman71 2 Posted September 2, 2018 Alfred Morris :doublethumbsup: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,525 Posted September 2, 2018 Now that they have Khalil Mack...EVERY BEARS PLAYER. Offense and defense. Go Bears!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted September 2, 2018 I took a flyer on Taylor Gabriel. Never know who Will emerge as Trubs go to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 2, 2018 I took a flyer on Taylor Gabriel. Never know who Will emerge as Trubs go to No you didnt. Unless youre in a 14-Team league or more, in which case is worth mentioning. No focking way in a 10 or 12 Team League, Taylor Gabriel is on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted September 2, 2018 No you didnt. Unless youre in a 14-Team league or more, in which case is worth mentioning. No focking way in a 10 or 12 Team League, Taylor Gabriel is on your team. 12 team dynasty with 20 man roster and 4 person taxi squad? Yes I did 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 2, 2018 Up Marquis Goodwin - I think just seeing the connection continue with Garrapolo was enough to move him into solid WR 2 territory John Ross - Even though he's not a proven route runner, he'll be getting a lot of single coverage looks this year starting opposite of AJ Green Keelan Cole - I already thought he'd lead the Jags in receiving before Lee got hurt. This just helps his volume Aaron Jones - Not for what he's done, but what others haven't. He may be the only real threat at RB Green Bay has. The others appear to be bodies at best. James White - I think he's the only patriot RB that's healthy with a defined role. Alex Collins - Dixon has proven to be no threat and the Ravens offense looks to be vastly better with actual receiving weapons and their best OL player back. Carlos Hyde - Both he and Chubb have looked good running behind that line. If the team can improve and provide more running game scripts he'll easily out perform ADP Eric Ebron - Moves into the draftable realm as Luck's going to have to resort more to the short passing game. Taywan Taylor - Impressive pre-season. May not be draft-able even in 12-teamers, but if Matthews can't stay healthy or Davis disappoints, he could be in-line for a decent season Royce Freeman - Looks to be the real deal and the only rookie RB aside from Saquon with a given role and workload Jordy Nelson - Mostly from camp reports that indicate he's still Jordy and that last year's issues were QB play not his play Chris Carson - Not only can penny not block and got hurt, but Carson looks like he did early last year. Peyton Barber - See Chris Carson, except Jones has been healthy Michael Gallup - Seems to have chemistry with Dak and there's no one else on that team to catch passes Dallas Goedart - Alshon still isn't ready and the guy is monster with great receiving skills. Could be a default red-zone target Down All Bills Players - That o-line looks even worse than I thought Robbie Anderson - Will still be good, but the proven connection was with McKown. If Darnold starts I'm not sure what he does as I haven't seen him go down the field all that much. Sony Michel - I thought that when NE used that much draft capital to get him he was in line for a lot of work, but he's got to get on the field first Joe Mixon - I was on the Mixon hype train earlier, but Bernard has looked more efficient when he's played so I don't think he's going away I. Crowell - Looks like he'll share more carries with Powell than originally expected TY Hilton - I don't like luck's admission that his arm strength isn't all the way back Jordan Wilkins - He's behind Christine Micheal for playing time? Rashard Penny - See Carson Above D. Johnson / L Fitzgerald - The zona offense just has looked off to me Jerrick Mckinnon - I'm wondering if the "can he handle that workload" question has been answered for us Ronald Jones - See Payton Barber O.J. Howard - Just too many mouths to feed to justify picking him as a starting te. Brate, Godwin, Williams all big targets in the red zone. Dalvin Cook - I always had him a little lower coming off the injury, but that O-line is a mess now C. McCaffery - I hope they don't run him like they say they will, because he cannot move the chains as a between the tackles RB. He'll still be fine as a high second round pick but I can't see him averaging more than 3.5 per carry if they insist on using him as the hammer Cam Merideth - Currently Behind Trequon Smith? Zeke - Calm down we're talking a spot or two here, but the OL issues are mounting and with no proven passing game I'm wondering if the field get a lot tighter for him than it's ever been Wow, great job, and thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 2, 2018 Alfred Morris :doublethumbsup: Absolutely.....Barber too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
