Syria

[The Observer 641]

Turkey allowed him to build two buildings there. Not hard to connect the dots here. So disgraceful. I hope that the world understands that this is only temporary. And due to a glitch in our system, a guy receiving 3 million less votes than his rival became our minority president. And that we will again, someday, go back to showing loyalty to our allies and disdain to evil countries and their tyrannical leaders.

[fandandy 3,313]

You're prolly correct, and we will waste trillions more and countless lives and at the end of the day that place will be an even bigger shithole than it is now.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Since all those places want is each other all dead, why not just help both sides and wipe them all out? Then they will be happy and at peace.

[The Observer 641]

Foreign policy goes way deeper and requires much more strategy than most here have the ability to understand. It's not as simple as "screw them. I just want to get out of there'.  There is ISIS to consider.  Trump loves to blame Obama for allowing ISIS to form. This move will allow them to regain strength and numbers.  And even Mitch McConnell, one of the country's biggest Trump suck-ups said yesterday that "A precipitous withdrawal of US forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime,"  Again, that was Mitch McConnell.

[Hawkeye21 2,216]

6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Foreign policy goes way deeper and requires much more strategy than most here have the ability to understand. It's not as simple as "screw them. I just want to get out of there'.  There is ISIS to consider.  Trump loves to blame Obama for allowing ISIS to form. This move will allow them to regain strength and numbers.  And even Mitch McConnell, one of the country's biggest Trump suck-ups said yesterday that "A precipitous withdrawal of US forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime,"  Again, that was Mitch McConnell.

Nonsense!  Trump wiped out ISIS in his first 30 days.  Hail to the Chief baby!  

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Nonsense!  Trump wiped out ISIS in his first 30 days.  Hail to the Chief baby!  

And Mexico is paying for the wall.  Amazing what he got his fools to believe.

[Hawkeye21 2,216]

Just now, The Observer said:

And Mexico is paying for the wall.  Amazing what he got his fools to believe.

They still believe that one.  Although, Trump tweeted that the border is now secure so apparently there isn't actually a need for a wall across the border after all.  Problem has been solved.  Better refund Mexico their money.

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They still believe that one.  Although, Trump tweeted that the border is now secure so apparently there isn't actually a need for a wall across the border after all.  Problem has been solved.  Better refund Mexico their money.

They also believe that China is paying for all the socialism money that it's taking to bail out the farmers. Which is now twice as much as the auto bailout was. They'll believe anything that guy tells them to. It's frightening.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

33 minutes ago, fandandy said:

You're prolly correct, and we will waste trillions more and countless lives and at the end of the day that place will be an even bigger shithole than it is now.

We're not talking about California.  Leave them out of this.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051]

even you libtards have to agree this is a no win situation

I got into a huge fight with my hippie extreme leftist mom this morning about how we need to send more military to the middle east and ramp it up.  Then she says even republicans think so,  and I am like look at your hypocrisy, you hate Trump so much you are now pro war, when George Bush sent military to the middle east you protested that.

Dems, what is your solution, what is the solution that you would agree with Trump on, really?

If he said we are sending 100,000 troops to Syria you same people would be biatching about that

 

[Mark Davis 280]

Personally I'm for us transporting the ISIS detainees on our way out to Bashar Assad.  He isn't exactly known for running Hiltons for his political opponents.  I'm sure we can take him at his word that he would treat them fairly and humanely.

[shorepatrol 1,828]

4 hours ago, The Observer said:

Foreign policy goes way deeper and requires much more strategy than most here have the ability to understand. 

I'm sure you consider yourself to have a strong grasp on the complexities of foreign policy though. Go get em tiger. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

4 hours ago, The Observer said:

And Mexico is paying for the wall.  Amazing what he got his fools to believe.

Not as dumb as those fools who believed they could keep their doctor. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

6 hours ago, Reality said:

One of the reasons I voted for him, I want out of these sh!tholes.

Yeah, I see both sides. 

On the one hand, yeah, I want out of the middle east for good. In large scale anyway. I'm cool with drones and special forces strikes to kill terrorists here and there, but no more full scale fighting.

On the other hand, the kurds are about the best people in that region. Ideally, Northern Iraq, northern Syria, and southeastern turkey would be a new nation of Kurdistan. But we long ago decided to fock them over in favor of turkey. And turkey, let us not forget, is not above genocide, see Armenia.

If there were widespread support globally to give the kurds a state, I'd be ok with the US supporting it. Unilaterally, I'm not.

But yeah, those kurds are gonna die, and we sold them out. It sucks, but such is the world. 

[Intense Observer 344]

This thread

Interesting tidbit, the leader of the Turkish backed Syrian rebel group that was "killing all the Kurds", was none other than this guy, Salim Idris:

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/339455679800700928?s=19

(Mustache next to McCain)

[HellToupee 1,254]

why now? Sounds like something bigger is getting ready to kickoff 
 

China tells citizens in Syria to 'leave country as soon as possible'

Agence France-Presse

Published Dec 05, 2024 10:38 PM PHT

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An anti-government fighter covers his ears as a multi-barrel rocket launcher fires against regime forces, in the northern outskirts of Syria's west-central city of Hama on December 4, 2024. Bakr Al Kassem, AFP 

 

China's embassy sent an urgent notice on Thursday advising its citizens to leave Syria "as soon as possible", as Islamist-led rebel forces continue their offensive against President Bashar al-Assad's troops.

 

The rebels, led by the Islamist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), captured the central Syrian city of Hama on Thursday, days after seizing the country's commercial hub Aleppo.

 

 

They launched their offensive a little more than a week ago, just as a ceasefire took hold between Israel and Assad's ally Hezbollah in Lebanon.

 

"Currently, the situation in northwestern Syria is intensifying, and the overall security situation is deteriorating further," China's embassy said in a message on its WeChat account on Thursday.

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"(The embassy) advises Chinese citizens in the country to make use of available commercial flights to return home or leave the country as soon as possible."

 

It added that those who remained "may face extremely high security risks and potential delays in receiving assistance".

 

While Russia and Iran have been Syria's closest backers in recent years, China's ties to the country have grown.

 

China is one of only a handful of countries outside the Middle East that Assad has visited since Syria's civil war began in 2011.

[jbycho 209]

The world needs to get rid of the middle east. 

[GobbleDog 918]

I'd forgotten about the Syrian Civil War... it'd been dormant for 6+ years. All of a sudden rebels are taking over major cities.

The US was supporting the Syrian Democratic Forces, but at this point Al Qaeda has joined in among others. Maybe that explains the renewed success, but jeesh... removing al-Assad just to have those terrorists in charge. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

I'd forgotten about the Syrian Civil War... it'd been dormant for 6+ years. All of a sudden rebels are taking over major cities.

The US was supporting the Syrian Democratic Forces, but at this point Al Qaeda has joined in among others. Maybe that explains the renewed success, but jeesh... removing al-Assad just to have those terrorists in charge. 

Obama. 

[HellToupee 1,254]

Syrian women are getting fitted for burqas

[kilroy69 1,162]

18 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I'd forgotten about the Syrian Civil War... it'd been dormant for 6+ years. All of a sudden rebels are taking over major cities.

The US was supporting the Syrian Democratic Forces, but at this point Al Qaeda has joined in among others. Maybe that explains the renewed success, but jeesh... removing al-Assad just to have those terrorists in charge. 

It is not just removing assad. If Assad falls there will absolutely be a genocide The Alawite minority there has been in charge for generations and abused their power. Any of them not able to make it to Turkey are going to die. 

[Voltaire 4,971]

1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

It is not just removing assad. If Assad falls there will absolutely be a genocide The Alawite minority there has been in charge for generations and abused their power. Any of them not able to make it to Turkey are going to die. 

Oh No. The horrors. Just keep them out of Europe.

Iran is that way ----->

[HellToupee 1,254]

Sounds like Assad’s plane was shot down or crashed

[RLLD 3,928]

 

[Mark Davis 280]

On 12/6/2024 at 1:33 PM, GobbleDog said:

I'd forgotten about the Syrian Civil War... it'd been dormant for 6+ years. All of a sudden rebels are taking over major cities.

The US was supporting the Syrian Democratic Forces, but at this point Al Qaeda has joined in among others. Maybe that explains the renewed success, but jeesh... removing al-Assad just to have those terrorists in charge. 

I've long believed that we are better off with Assad in charge than the alternative.  He's a bad guy, we may not like him, but it's him or the alternative.  Well, we don't get to choose the alternative.  It may end up being religious fanatics rather than a self interested dictator that you can deal with and deter knowing he is most interested in self preservation.

[Voltaire 4,971]

45 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I've long believed that we are better off with Assad in charge than the alternative.  He's a bad guy, we may not like him, but it's him or the alternative.  Well, we don't get to choose the alternative.  It may end up being religious fanatics rather than a self interested dictator that you can deal with and deter knowing he is most interested in self preservation.

Assad was always one of the least sh^tty evil dictators because at least he hated al Qaeda and ISIS. You're still dealing with a Hezbollah and Hamas backer though, so pick your poison. Seeing him deposed could also do wonders for Lebanon.  I don't mind rolling the dice to see what's behind door number two, knowing full well it may be worse. Maybe turd tastes better on waffles than spread on toast.

[The Phantom's Phantom 209]

5 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Assad was always one of the least sh^tty evil dictators because at least he hated al Qaeda and ISIS. You're still dealing with a Hezbollah and Hamas backer though, so pick your poison. Seeing him deposed could also do wonders for Lebanon.  I don't mind rolling the dice to see what's behind door number two, knowing full well it may be worse. Maybe turd tastes better on waffles than spread on toast.

Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, he's used chemical weapons again them with the backing of Iran and Russia.

I'd be careful to characterize him as anything but an evil murderous dictator.

[Voltaire 4,971]

1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, he's used chemical weapons again them with the backing of Iran and Russia.

I'd be careful to characterize him as anything but an evil murderous dictator.

Seeing Iran and Russia take lose a client state is a big win. These sh*thole countries you never know what you'll get. Libya was better off with Uncle Mo. At least there was some stability and opposition to ISIS and al Qaeda. We'll see what the future holds for Syria. I just learned the name Hayat Tahrir al-Sham five seconds ago and only know two sentences or so's worth of reading about him. Apparently, he used to be in ISIS and al Qaeda but now claims to be reformed. If they guy can play nice with Israel, Turkey, Saudi, Jordan, and Lebanon- great.

[RLLD 3,928]

7 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

I've long believed that we are better off with Assad in charge than the alternative.  He's a bad guy, we may not like him, but it's him or the alternative.  Well, we don't get to choose the alternative.  It may end up being religious fanatics rather than a self interested dictator that you can deal with and deter knowing he is most interested in self preservation.

This.

I dont think anyone will like what is to follow him.

This might not go the way we want it to.

I was on the ground there earlier this year, this is a Biden fock up, of that I can assure you.

[HellToupee 1,254]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Apparently, he used to be in ISIS and al Qaeda but now claims to be reformed.

You can trust him , he’s not like the others……

[HellToupee 1,254]

How many Syrian refugees are going to end up here because of Syria falling 

[Nomad99 646]

See what happens when the modern Russian military get spread thin.....

[Maximum Overkill 1,413]

3 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, he's used chemical weapons again them with the backing of Iran and Russia.

I'd be careful to characterize him as anything but an evil murderous dictator.

The World is in total Chaos under Joe Biden. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 209]

17 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The World is in total Chaos under Joe Biden. 

The civil war raged from 2016 to 2020.  Who was president then?

[Maximum Overkill 1,413]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

The civil war raged from 2016 to 2020.  Who was president then?

Who's the President now? You don't even know. 

How many wars are we funding?? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

13 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

The civil war raged from 2016 to 2020.  Who was president then?

2016? Obama. The whole year. Your inability  to count has done you in again.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,413]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

2016? Obama. The whole year. Your inability  to count has done you in again.  

The poppers and baby oil have infiltrated his brain 

[IGotWorms 4,028]

Assad gone, rebels took Damascus. 

[Strike 4,815]

Report is Assad received political asylum in Russia.  Probably arranged by Trump.

[IGotWorms 4,028]

4 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

See what happens when the modern Russian military get spread thin.....

And yet the MAGAts want to bail Putin out. It’s treason