Indeed assessment tests

[wiffleball 4,788]

Anybody ever take these? I mean, most of them are just BS. But if an employer wants me to take a couple specific like the counting type of assessment test. Because apparently that whole degree thing doesn't mean much anymore.

 

I'm thinking, it's the internet. there have to be answers online. Or something. Anybody?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,881]

War on college. 

[Bert 1,128]

8 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Anybody ever take these? I mean, most of them are just BS. But if an employer wants me to take a couple specific like the counting type of assessment test. Because apparently that whole degree thing doesn't mean much anymore.

 

I'm thinking, it's the internet. there have to be answers online. Or something. Anybody?

The problem is the bs that an online degree is the same as a real degree. Employers are looking for ways to weed out the idiots with online degrees without getting sued.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,881]

2 minutes ago, Bert said:

The problem is the bs that an online degree is the same as a real degree. Employers are looking for ways to weed out the idiots with online degrees without getting sued.  

I’d rather have someone with an on line degree. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’d rather have someone with an on line degree. 

Nothing wrong with an online degree from a regionally accredited institution. Theres plenty out there. Theres a reason why online accredited credits dont transfer to B&M regionally accredited schools, and its more than politics. 

[Bert 1,128]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’d rather have someone with an on line degree. 

I have hired a lot more people, and been on more hiring committees than you and I respectfully disagree.  

[Bert 1,128]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Nothing wrong with an online degree from a regionally accredited institution. Theres plenty out there. Theres a reason why online accredited credits dont transfer to B&M regionally accredited schools, and its more than politics. 

What are your top notch online universities?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,881]

7 minutes ago, Bert said:

I have hired a lot more people, and been on more hiring committees than you and I respectfully disagree.  

I don’t doubt you.  But depending on the job, I might not want someone who has been hanging round with these leftist idiots night and day. 

[Bert 1,128]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t doubt you.  But depending on the job, I might not want someone who has been hanging round with these leftist idiots night and day. 

I totally agree with that sentiment!  It has been increasingly difficult to hire people straight out of college. 
 

It has gotten to the point that it is much better to hire someone 3 or 4 years out of school that realizes their professors were wrong about the real world. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

27 minutes ago, Bert said:

What are your top notch online universities?

I think we"re talking apples/oranges here.  Im talking regionally accredited schools that offer online programs.  Just a few randomly...Villanova, AZ State, Univ of Maryland.  How would you know in an interview if someone had an online degree from one of these schools?

[Bert 1,128]

University of Phoenix, WVU and all the other crap they advertise on TV. We also do back ground checks with the “university”.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

24 minutes ago, Bert said:

University of Phoenix, WVU and all the other crap they advertise on TV. We also do back ground checks with the “university”.  

How many people with online degrees have you interviewed for jobs?

[kilroy69 1,213]

The tests are timed to 3 mins so its not AS easy to cheat if you have to search for an answer that may have multiple right ways to respond. 

[nobody 2,540]

People lie on their resume constantly, so this is a way to see if they actually have the skill they claim they have.

I'm getting tired of people saying they know something just because they know that the term exists.

[wiffleball 4,788]

So...no help? You'd think the test and answers would be online...

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Online degrees are silly. This isn’t focking Rosetta Stone where you listen to a few tapes to figure out how to say thank you and where’s the bathroom

[IGotWorms 4,057]

But also the assessment tests are dumb and dehumanizing. Industrial psychology is something the Nazis would’ve come up.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,881]

51 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Online degrees  threaten me, it opens up more opportunities for people who otherwise might not have them. I’m very invested in my worthless degree. . This isn’t focking Rosetta Stone where you listen to a few tapes to figure out how to say thank you and where’s the bathroom

 

[Fireballer 2,639]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Online degrees are silly. 

So its silly when a student gets the exact same content and produces the same work, just from a different location?  Are all online degrees all equal?  Hell no but they aren't silly

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

I think online degrees are a great way to get a college education, however I think that college is extremely over-rated and many jobs should not require it.

 

Skills tests are also stupid and you may miss someone that would be great at the job, i may be biased because i work with many people in the software field with non-traditional backgrounds. There are really good developers with mechanical engineering degrees, mba's, etc and they would have missed out on opportunities had skills tests been implemented.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

Many things can't be re-produced by online programs. Take COMM 101 talking in front of people. Some people struggle with it and fall apart. They need to practice in front of actual people. Not getting that online.  Also working in groups on a project. Taking soil samples, working on a wind tunnel experiment with a team. Not getting that either online.

And how many are really flunking out of online schools. Almost nobody. If they do some shoddy work and pay their fees they still get a B. A real brick and mortar no way. I've been in classes where half the people flunk out because the course was brutal.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

28 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

I think online degrees are a great way to get a college education, however I think that college is extremely over-rated and many jobs should not require it.

IF, there is such thing as privilege, and we all know it is rich vs. poor, not white vs. black, then the significance of a non-professional college degree is it.

[nobody 2,540]

1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said:

I think online degrees are a great way to get a college education, however I think that college is extremely over-rated and many jobs should not require it.

 

Skills tests are also stupid and you may miss someone that would be great at the job, i may be biased because i work with many people in the software field with non-traditional backgrounds. There are really good developers with mechanical engineering degrees, mba's, etc and they would have missed out on opportunities had skills tests been implemented.

You’re talking about the difference between aptitude and skill.  If you’re looking for the skill, the assessments would be helpful.  If you’re looking for aptitude, they’re trash.  That’s a hiring decision.

Personally, I opt for aptitude almost every time, but sometimes you need someone who can actually do what they claim they can do on their resume day 1.