posty 2,491 Posted August 27, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-players-walkout-was-an-uncomfortable-sacrifice-that-will-change-the-dynamics-of-sports-forever/ After the 2019-20 NBA season paused for a second time Wednesday, this time shorter but for reasons of racism rather than a worldwide pandemic, few things are clear. Not what happens next, or when. Not whether change can be made from a bubble or whether this season will ultimately finish. But this, at least, feels certain: The notion that sports and politics will ever be separate again has passed. The idea that athletes -- and usually, here, it's Black athletes who are expected to "shut up and dribble," "shut up and play," "shut up and entertain" -- should compete in sports but not over the real struggle in American life has ended. Four years to the day Colin Kaepernick first took a knee, the Milwaukee Bucks used their feet to make a statement, walking right off that court and taking with them, for the moment, the NBA playoffs. Why? That one has to ask says much about the person, but here goes anyway: Because another unarmed Black man had been gunned down by police officers. Because Black people in this country, rightly, feel hunted and hated, feared and stalked -- unable to feel safe on the streets of a free country; and unable to feel any certainty that when the next Jacob Blake adds his name to too long a list, there will be enough people who care to make even a small inch of progress. I tried to explain all this to my children today, why a Black man was shot in Kenosha, Wisconsin, but why a White teenager who allegedly killed two people during the ensuing protests and unrest could stroll casually down the street, armed, after the alleged killings, past police, unbothered. I was exhausted explaining, and I'm a White man who gets to tell his children -- my son most notably -- that the police are there to protect them. It is a different conversation for Black parents talking to their Black children, and I cannot imagine -- I cannot know -- how tired they must be. But I can try. I can listen. You can, too, if you're willing. That's in part what NBA players were wrestling with as they debated, into the night and early morning hours, what to do next. When there are no good solutions, there are rarely good answers. So, yes, sports and politics -- as if human life having meaning and needing to be protected should be "politics" -- are intertwined. That's the legacy, in part, of this latest attempt by NBA players at doing something, anything. The fact this column and the tens of thousands of words written about the NBA right now aren't about games and stats and wins and losses should mean something. That's part of the point, too. There's this as well: What the players did in the NBA bubble the past 24 hours was brave, and difficult, and worth celebrating. We all, to varying degrees, wrestle with the things the players did: Our safety, our loved ones, our fears, our hopes, our money, our aspirations, our ambitions, and the degrees of right and wrong and how we will or won't factor them in. What most of us don't have to do, ever, is wrestle with these things in real time, in a bubble, under the glare of the world watching, where a good chunk of people -- see my Twitter timeline, see yours -- are so overtly racist that whatever they do, they know vitriol will follow. For LeBron James, for Kawhi Leonard, for Chris Paul, for Jayson Tatum, for Dwight Howard -- for every man in those meetings -- the last 24 hours, the last year, all of it -- must have pressed down. It was difficult, clearly, to figure out what to do about a job and a game while another Black man had been shot, over and over, and again so many people seemed not to care. The conversations the players had were, surely, nuanced, painful and emotional. See Doc Rivers and his tears from a few days ago. Watch Chris Webber on television, emotional and raw. "Keep politics out of sports" too often means shut up and play. That's over. Accept it, or find another pastime. That's another thing the players decided. The season seems that it will go on, for now. There is clearly a range of views among the players about how to navigate all of this. There will be disagreements. But the reason Isiah Thomas told me this was "historic," why several former players used that same word, is because things are going to be different now. No justice, no peace. No peace, maybe no sports. You don't have to like it. But it's time to accept it. The human beings mistreated who have entertained us with our games are, rightly, fed up. Change, as my friend and former NBA player Jim Jackson said, "comes with an uncomfortable sacrifice." Welcome to the discomfort. It's way past time. --------------------------- Brave... Pfft... There are way too many people that have sports athletes up on a pedestal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 239 Posted August 27, 2020 Another white man telling us how black people feel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,330 Posted August 27, 2020 These clowns walked off and no one gave a fock so they cancelled their lame protest in complete embarrassment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,469 Posted August 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, lod001 said: These clowns walked of and no one gave a fock so they cancelled their lame protest in complete embarrassment. That's the funny thing about it. Everyone on Twitter was saying, "Imagine people being mad that players don't want to play basketball..." I was searching for someone that was mad. For the most part no one really gave a shìt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted August 28, 2020 Over a dude who was wanted for aggravated sexual assault. Meanwhile a 9 year old girl sitting in her bedroom is about to catch a bullet through the window. No one will sit out a game for her. That scum bag with a rap sheet gets more respect than her because there is a video. Calling these people sheep is an insult to sheep 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 699 Posted August 28, 2020 https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1299039428070039552/photo/1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,034 Posted August 28, 2020 i love the nba..hated that they did this..so stupid. i wont watch the postgame, but thats the better podium anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,469 Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, tubby_mcgee said: https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1299039428070039552/photo/1 They're right. The Favre thing is a bad analogy. People should just post a graphic showing how many unarmed black people are killed by cops, how many unarmed white people, and then how many black people are killed by white people, how many by black people, and then how many white people are killed by white people and then black people. Just post that thousands of times a day. This concept that black people are being hunted is so stupid. Worrying about 10 guys who are actively resisting arrest getting shot per year while 20 black people are killed a day is like trying to buff out a scratch on a car that just got crushed by a tank. It's fūcking retarded. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,167 Posted August 28, 2020 Liberals have ruined many words. Add brave to the list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, nobody said: They're right. The Favre thing is a bad analogy. People should just post a graphic showing how many unarmed black people are killed by cops, how many unarmed white people, and then how many black people are killed by white people, how many by black people, and then how many white people are killed by white people and then black people. Just post that thousands of times a day. This concept that black people are being hunted is so stupid. Worrying about 10 guys who are actively resisting arrest getting shot per year while 20 black people are killed a day is like trying to buff out a scratch on a car that just got crushed by a tank. It's fūcking retarded. Urlacher is now the face of the neo nazi party to these people. HT, is there any way that New cops are taught to allow blacks to resist arrest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,167 Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Urlacher is now the face of the neo nazi party to these people. HT, is there any way that New cops are taught to allow blacks to resist arrest? No. No training I ever had mentioned the race of the subject. Resisting arrest has been overused by cops at times and under prosecuted by district attorneys all the time. It’s barely a charge anymore. You have to charge assault on a police officer and maybe they will drop it to resisting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,203 Posted August 28, 2020 Rapists Lives Matter! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 28, 2020 I am assuming their game checks went to help black families? I haven't heard the official announcement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted August 28, 2020 You got to love Bruce Arians. He told the Buc players to "Take action." “I think each guy has a personal thing. I would beg them to take action, find a cause and either support it financially or do something to change the situation,” Arians said. “Protesting doesn’t do crap in my opinion. I’ve been seeing it since 1968.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,491 Posted August 28, 2020 3 hours ago, TimmySmith said: I am assuming their game checks went to help black families? I haven't heard the official announcement. It did... To about eight different baby mama's for each player... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted August 28, 2020 3 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said: You got to love Bruce Arians. He told the Buc players to "Take action." “I think each guy has a personal thing. I would beg them to take action, find a cause and either support it financially or do something to change the situation,” Arians said. “Protesting doesn’t do crap in my opinion. I’ve been seeing it since 1968.” He's spot on. Do something. Lift your community. Teach them about hard work and caring about their community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted August 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: He's spot on. Do something. Lift your community. Teach them about hard work and caring about their community. And it's coming from someone that practices what he preaches. The players see it everyday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 534 Posted August 28, 2020 Soooooo, they got paid to not play or do anything? Sh1t. I would've been a hero years ago if my boss let me. I've been trying to get paid for doing nothing for almost 3 decades now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites