posty 2,509 Posted February 10, 2021 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jay-z-foo-fighters-iron-maiden-tina-turner-rock-hall-of-fame-2021-nominees-1125967/ The nominations for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame’s class of 2021 are in and the list features Jay-Z, Foo Fighters, Mary J. Blige, Iron Maiden, Tina Turner, the Go-Go’s, Rage Against the Machine, Kate Bush, Devo, Chaka Khan, Carole King, Fela Kuti, LL Cool J, New York Dolls, Todd Rundgren, and Dionne Warwick. The top vote-getters will be announced in May and inducted in a Cleveland, Ohio, ceremony in the fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,619 Posted February 10, 2021 wow...so basically any band with a tiny bit of success gets in. Got it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,290 Posted February 10, 2021 Just getting around to Tina Turner, minus Ike? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 10, 2021 Foo Fighters Tina Turner Everyone else is kinda meh. Maybe Devo could get in as a trailblazer, but they didn't have enough to warrant HoF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted February 10, 2021 Foo fighters can't argue their popularity as a rock band. Tina Turner sure. NY Dolls are a yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 Carole King had one of the most successful albums of that time. As it stands now it's #81 all time. Side 1 "I Feel the Earth Move" – 3:00 "So Far Away" – 3:55 "It's Too Late" (lyrics by Toni Stern) – 3:54 "Home Again" – 2:29 "Beautiful" – 3:08 "Way Over Yonder" – 4:49 Side 2 "You've Got a Friend" – 5:09 "Where You Lead" (King, Stern) – 3:20 "Will You Love Me Tomorrow?" (Gerry Goffin, King) – 4:13 "Smackwater Jack" (Goffin, King) – 3:42 "Tapestry" – 3:15 "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman" (Goffin, King, Jerry Wexler) – 3:59 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 14 millions sales and 4 Grammy's is nothing to laugh at. Not Rock really, but the R&R Hall of Fame stopped caring about that long ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: Carole King had one of the most successful albums of that time. As it stands now it's #81 all time. Side 1 "I Feel the Earth Move" – 3:00 "So Far Away" – 3:55 "It's Too Late" (lyrics by Toni Stern) – 3:54 "Home Again" – 2:29 "Beautiful" – 3:08 "Way Over Yonder" – 4:49 Side 2 "You've Got a Friend" – 5:09 "Where You Lead" (King, Stern) – 3:20 "Will You Love Me Tomorrow?" (Gerry Goffin, King) – 4:13 "Smackwater Jack" (Goffin, King) – 3:42 "Tapestry" – 3:15 "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman" (Goffin, King, Jerry Wexler) – 3:59 Yeah, she is also a great song writer. She did a concert with James Taylor that I saw on PBS a few years back that was pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,385 Posted February 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, supermike80 said: wow...so basically any band with a tiny bit of success gets in. Got it Like pro sports HOF. No difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 Jay-Z - Yes Mary J. Blige - Don't know much about her. Iron Maiden - Hell yeah. Tina Turner - Hell yeah. Go-Go's - Yes. Rage - Hell yeah. Kate Bush - Maybe Devo - Prolly should Chaka Khan - Yes Carole King - Hell yeah Fela Kuti - I dunno. LL Cool J - I dunno. New York Dolls - Yes Todd Rundgren - Meh Dionne Warwick - Yes I wish they'd dig deeper into punk and 1980s alternative rock. Bands such as Black Flag, The Germs, X, Fear, Fugazi, Husker Du, Big Boys, Replacements and Butth0le Surfers, etc., ought to be considered. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,290 Posted February 10, 2021 Participation trophy for music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 Todd Rundgren had what, one hit? I love Hello It's Me, but really? One song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: Todd Rundgren had what, one hit? I love Hello It's Me, but really? One song. You'll remember this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoX52Sua8Oc But, yeah, only a few hits. He is pretty well-known for Utopia, being a multi-instrumentalist and being pretty experimental, but maybe not enough to get him into the HOF, me thinks. He did have a pretty big influence on electronic music. To me, influence is the one of the key aspects of getting into the HOF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Rusty Syringes said: You'll remember this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoX52Sua8Oc But, yeah, only a few hits. He is pretty well-known for Utopia, being a multi-instrumentalist and being pretty experimental, but maybe not enough to get him into the HOF, me thinks. He did have a pretty big influence on electronic music. To me, influence is the one of the key aspects of getting into the HOF. Good catch. Yep I remember that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Participation trophy for music. That's what it's become. We should have a Geek R&R hall of fame and do it right. 1. Elvis. Who you guys got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, The Elevator Killer said: Good catch. Yep I remember that one. I saw him with the Ringo band a few years ago. It was a pretty great show. It had him playing various instruments, the guitar player from Toto and the dude who sang "Black Magic Woman" from Santana, among others. They played each other's stuff, and it was pretty great. Steve Lukather can SHRED. I'd seen Paul McCartney a few months earlier, so it was kind of cool to see two Beatles within a short amount of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Rusty Syringes said: I saw him with the Ringo band a few years ago. It was a pretty great show. It had him playing various instruments, the guitar player from Toto and the dude who sang "Black Magic Woman" from Santana, among others. They played each other's stuff, and it was pretty great. Steve Lukather can SHRED. I'd seen Paul McCartney a few months earlier, so it was kind of cool to see two Beatles within a short amount of time. I always wanted to see Ringo and his all star band, but never did. I saw Paul and almost walked out on him. The first half hour it was all from his new album at the time, Flower in the Attic or something. Then he started with the Beatles and Wings stuff and it got good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: I always wanted to see Ringo and his all star band, but never did. I saw Paul and almost walked out on him. The first half hour it was all from his new album at the time, Flower in the Attic or something. Then he started with the Beatles and Wings stuff and it got good. I saw him around 2015. If he had a new album out, I don't remember him playing much off of it. It was pretty much all Beatles, Wings and his best solo stuff. It was just him and his guitar for "Yesterday." It was a great show all around, with lots of dynamics, soft one moment and explosions and stuff the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,402 Posted February 10, 2021 What a focking joke!!! the only ones deserving IMO are.... Devo, Todd Rundgren, Carole King, Tina Turner but I personally would have 100 artists before them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Rusty Syringes said: I saw him around 2015. If he had a new album out, I don't remember him playing much off of it. It was pretty much all Beatles, Wings and his best solo stuff. It was just him and his guitar for "Yesterday." It was a great show all around, with lots of dynamics, soft one moment and explosions and stuff the next. It was 1990 when I saw him. It was a good show after he stopped with the new stuff. Linda was even on stage. LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,402 Posted February 10, 2021 as far as rock goes..... how does Iron Maiden get in before Priest? also......Foo Fighters, New York Dolls & The Go-Gos I'd put local cover bands in before those three Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Isles 583 Posted February 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: Todd Rundgren had what, one hit? I love Hello It's Me, but really? One song. He was producer of Bat out Hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Big Guy said: What a focking joke!!! the only ones deserving IMO are.... Devo, Todd Rundgren, Carole King, Tina Turner but I personally would have 100 artists before them I'd put the Dead Kennedys and Butth0le Surfers in before most of them. When Stevie Nicks got in as a solo artist a few years ago, I was like WTF, how many great albums did she have and how did she influence music? The answer to both questions was no. She had a couple of hits, but I went back and listened to some of her entire albums, and they were nothing special. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,402 Posted February 10, 2021 The Rock Hall & the NFL have been infiltrated by the same brand of poozies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Guy said: as far as rock goes..... how does Iron Maiden get in before Priest? also......Foo Fighters, New York Dolls & The Go-Gos I'd put local cover bands in before those three I agree on Priest. I thought they'd gotten in, for some reason. Foo Fighters are the best rock band of the last quarter century, and the New York Dolls had an enormous impact on punk and alternative music, much like The Stooges did. The Go-Gos moved the sticks for chick rock and had some enormously popular albums and massive hits. They started out as kind of a punk band and had a huge impact on alternative rock down the road, particularly bands with women in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,873 Posted February 10, 2021 The Go-Go's were the first all female "rock" band to write and perform their own music. There's no denying their influence on female musicians who followed them, and for a couple of years they were a dominant force in pop/new wave music. Is that enough to make them HOF worthy? I don't know. Given the watered down nature of what qualifies for induction worthy it may be. If you consider what a HOF SHOULD be, I think you can make a case. But not at least considering them is lazy and biased. I don't know enough about a lot of the artists mentioned because they're not my kind of music (Go-Go's really aren't either but they are a little bit of a guilty pleasure) to comment on their influence/worthiness. From my youth it seems like Iron Maiden were a huge metal band at the time. Tina Turner is a no brainer. Carole King is considered one of the best and influential songwriters in history. I don't think Rundgren is worthy, even with his production/studio resume. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,264 Posted February 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Guy said: as far as rock goes..... how does Iron Maiden get in before Priest? I agree that both Iron Maiden and Judas Priest should be in the HoF. Perhaps Judas Priest is being shut out due to Rob Halford's sexual preference? Time to protest!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: wow...so basically any band with a tiny bit of success gets in. Got it Why should sports be the only ones who just let anyone in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,290 Posted February 10, 2021 Bang the drum all day is the only worthy thing Rudgren ever did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 I just looked up some people not in the R&R hall of fame. Jethro Tull? Gram Parsons? Bad Company? Boston? Chubby Checker? Cher? Jim Croce? Emerson, Lake and Palmer? Foreinger? Peter Frampton? The Guess Who? Teddy Pendergrass? Iggy Pop? Diana Ross? The Spinners? Steppenwolf? Three Dog Night? War? Barry White? Johnny Winter? Steve Winwood? Blood Sweet and Tears? Jimmy Buffett? Phil Collins? 5th Deminsion? Foghat? Billy Idol? Meatloaf? Peter Paul and Mary? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,264 Posted February 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mike Isles said: He was producer of Bat out Hell. Thx. I knew he was also known as a producer but didn't know any examples off the top of my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, posty said: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jay-z-foo-fighters-iron-maiden-tina-turner-rock-hall-of-fame-2021-nominees-1125967/ The nominations for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame’s class of 2021 are in and the list features Jay-Z, Foo Fighters, Mary J. Blige, Iron Maiden, Tina Turner, the Go-Go’s, Rage Against the Machine, Kate Bush, Devo, Chaka Khan, Carole King, Fela Kuti, LL Cool J, New York Dolls, Todd Rundgren, and Dionne Warwick. The top vote-getters will be announced in May and inducted in a Cleveland, Ohio, ceremony in the fall. Outside of Tina Turner, I either never heard of these people (such as... Mary J Blige, Kate Bush, NY Dolls, etc), or don't think they were anything special (such as... Devo, the Go-Go's, LL Cool J). As I see it, only Turner should get in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,873 Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: I just looked up some people not in the R&R hall of fame. Jethro Tull? Gram Parsons? Bad Company? Boston? Chubby Checker? Cher? Jim Croce? Emerson, Lake and Palmer? Foreinger? Peter Frampton? The Guess Who? Teddy Pendergrass? Iggy Pop? Diana Ross? The Spinners? Steppenwolf? Three Dog Night? War? Barry White? Johnny Winter? Steve Winwood? Blood Sweet and Tears? Jimmy Buffett? Phil Collins? 5th Deminsion? Foghat? Billy Idol? Meatloaf? Peter Paul and Mary? Definitely a lot of worthy omissions. Kind of why ti's a bit of a joke really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted February 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, DonS said: I agree that both Iron Maiden and Judas Priest should be in the HoF. Perhaps Judas Priest is being shut out due to Rob Halford's sexual preference? Time to protest!!!!! Seems like they'd be even more motivated to put Priest in the hall. I remember thinking when Halford came out that this made the music even more terrifying. That gave a whole new perspective to "Eat Me Alive": Wrapped tight around me Like a second flesh hot skin Cling to my body As the ecstasy begins Your wild vibrations Got me shooting from the hip Crazed and insatiable let 'er rip Eat me alive Sounds like an animal Panting to the beat Groan in the pleasure zone Gasping from the heat Gut-wrenching frenzy That deranges every joint I'm gonna force you at gun point To eat me alive Bound to deliver As you give and I collect Squealing impassioned As the rod of steel injects Lunge to the maximum Spread-eagled to the wall You're well equipped to take it all So eat me alive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 891 Posted February 10, 2021 that list is a focking travesty. just let everybody in then. foo fighters??? are you focking kidding me? and they might be 2nd on that list. iron maiden is only one that may deserve it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,264 Posted February 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: Seems like they'd be even more motivated to put Priest in the hall. I remember thinking when Halford came out that this made the music even more terrifying. That gave a whole new perspective to "Eat Me Alive": Wrapped tight around me Like a second flesh hot skin Cling to my body As the ecstasy begins Your wild vibrations Got me shooting from the hip Crazed and insatiable let 'er rip Eat me alive Sounds like an animal Panting to the beat Groan in the pleasure zone Gasping from the heat Gut-wrenching frenzy That deranges every joint I'm gonna force you at gun point To eat me alive Bound to deliver As you give and I collect Squealing impassioned As the rod of steel injects Lunge to the maximum Spread-eagled to the wall You're well equipped to take it all So eat me alive Ha. Yeah, definitely made me interpret the lyrics of many Priest songs differently after he came out (no pun intended) Halford definitely looked his absolute gheyest during the "Turbo" years with his balding on top but rocking a long blond mullet and red leather. A dark period in an otherwise exceptional career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 What the fock is a Fela Kuti? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,264 Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: What the fock is a Fela Kuti? Guessing a diversity nomination??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 497 Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, DonS said: Guessing a diversity nomination??? Was he in that Star Wars band or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,822 Posted February 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said: What the fock is a Fela Kuti? Obviously you haven’t been watching The Mandalorian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
