Queue the mass shootings

[Hardcore troubadour 14,170]

Important question: were there any Asians killed ? Oh wait, shooter isn’t white. Never mind. CNN and MSNBC were seen fleeing the scene. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

You'd think these dumb whoores would stop trying to piss us off.

 

Seriously. I'm getting angrier by the tweet.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,170]

33 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

why do muslims hate us?

Complicated question. But why they don’t fear us is not. They don’t fear us because of Beta’s like Obama and Biden, and cucks like Rusty and Dogcrap. 

[KSB2424 3,100]

I'm for common sense gun control but these idiots who think  that will solve all this are delusional.  A crazed person will just put nails in a pressure cooker and set it off,  set a school bus full of children on fire or fly a plane into a building.  The "gun" isn't the root cause issue.

[Mrs. Voltaire 46]

35 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

There are radical elements in all religious faiths.

Here is a fascinating piece on the far right's religion radicalization:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/holy-hate-far-right’s-radicalization-religion

 

Q: Why do muslims hate us?

Rusty: Let's talk about the far right white supremacists!

 

 

What a focking clown.

[GobbleDog 918]

3 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I'm for common sense gun control but these idiots who think  that will solve all this are delusional.  A crazed person will just put nails in a pressure cooker and set it off,  set a school bus full of children on fire or fly a plane into a building.  The "gun" isn't the root cause issue.

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

[KSB2424 3,100]

4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

Be careful, your camel toe is showing. 

[Cdub100 3,689]

7 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

It absolutely happens in other "1st world countries" They use guns, bombs, knives and even trucks...

This one comes to mind because I will never forget that dead little girl covered in a sheet with a doll next to her. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/france-truck-attack/terror-truck-how-attack-nice-unfolded-n610321

So take your "it doesn't happen in other countries" bullsh1t and go fock yourself.

 

ETA - Ban trucks because they are easier to kill with. After all it was the root cause.

[KSB2424 3,100]

This is America and this little thing called the 2nd Amendment.  There can be restrictions on firearms but it ain't all going away.  So all you fagboy fishermen from Florida can go fock yourselves.  

[Casual Observer 597]

10 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

They use blades, too.  Google Lee Rigby for example.  I don't know why the comparison to "other first world countries".  We aren't other first world countries.  Other first world countries don't have free speech and they certainly don't have a constitutionally-protected to right to bear arms.  

[Rusty Syringes 478]

32 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Seriously. I'm getting angrier by the tweet.

This is a serious BDS symptom. You might want to go get your head checked.

[wiffleball 4,760]

35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Complicated question. But why they don’t fear us is not. They don’t fear us because of Beta’s like Obama and Biden, and cucks like Rusty and Dogcrap. 

So why were the two biggest terrorists incidents committed by Muslims against Americans committed during the Reagan and Bush Jr presidencies?

[wiffleball 4,760]

37 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I'm for common sense gun control but these idiots who think  that will solve all this are delusional.  A crazed person will just put nails in a pressure cooker and set it off,  set a school bus full of children on fire or fly a plane into a building.  The "gun" isn't the root cause issue.

God, you are so out of touch.

 

Everybody's using an insta - pot these days.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Well I've heard many times that the revolt starts when they try to take away the guns. 

[5-Points 3,186]

1 hour ago, GobbleDog said:

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

Debunked

 

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Much of the political thinking about violence in the United States comes from unfavorable comparisons between the United States and a series of cherry-picked countries with lower murder rates and with fewer guns per capita. We’ve all seen it many times. The United States, with a murder rate of approximately 5 per 100,000 is compared to a variety of Western and Central European countries (also sometimes Japan) with murder rates often below 1 per 100,000. This is, in turn, supposed to fill Americans with a sense of shame and illustrate that the United States should be regarded as some sort of pariah nation because of its murder rate.

Note, however, that these comparisons always employ a carefully selected list of countries, most of which are very unlike the United States. They are  countries that were settled long ago by the dominant ethnic group, they are ethnically non-diverse today, they are frequently very small countries (such as Norway, with a population of 5 million) with very locally based democracies (again, unlike the US with an immense population and far fewer representatives in government per voter). Politically, historically, and demographically, the US has little in common with Europe or Japan.

Prejudice about the "Developed World" vs "the Third World"

 

But these are the only countries the US shall be compared to, we are told, because the US shall only be compared to “developed” countries when analyzing its murder rate and gun ownership.

And yet, no reason for this is ever given. What is the criteria for deciding that the United States shall be compared to Luxembourg but not to Mexico, which has far more in common with the US than Luxembourg in terms of size, history, ethnic diversity, and geography?

 

Much of this stems from outdated preconceived and evidence-free notions about the "third world." As Hans Rosling has shown, there is this idea of "we" vs. "them." "We" are the special "developed" countries where people are happy healthy, and live long lives. "Them" is the third world where people live in war-torn squalor and lives there are nasty, brutish, and short. In this mode of thinking there is a bright shiny line between the "developed" world and everyone else, who might as well be considered as a different species.

In truth, there is no dividing line between the alleged "developed" world and everyone else. There is, in fact, only gradual change that takes place as one looks at Belgium, then the US, then Chile, and Turkey, and China, and Mexico. Most countries, as Rosling illustrates here, are in the middle, and this is freely exhibited by a variety of metrics including the UN's human development index.

Once we understand these facts, and do not cling to bizarre xenophobic views about how everyone outside the "developed" world is too dysfunctional and/or subhuman (although few gun control advocates would ever admit to the thought) to bear comparison to the US, we immediately see that the mantra "worst in the developed world" offers an immensely skewed, unrealistic, and even bigoted view of the world and how countries compare to each other.

While ignorance about true global poverty, life expectancy, and family planning are no doubt a source of some of these wrong-headed comparisons, one doesn't need to be the world's biggest cynic to recognize that the US is only compared to a selective list of countries because doing so offers a biased view of the United States that makes it looks like an especially crime-ridden place.....

 

....But, we are never allowed to compare the US to middle income countries like Uruguay, Russia, or Mexico because that would show that the US is actually a remarkably safe place in global terms on top of having many more legally owned guns than those countries.....

 

Nevertheless, we've all heard it too many times to count: gun laws in the United States are "insane" because countries like Sweden and Luxembourg have far more restrictive gun laws and are much safer because of it. The US has the highest murder rate in the "developed world" — presumably because of its lax guns laws —we are told again and again.

Few people who repeat this mantra have any standard in their heads of what exactly is the "developed" world. They just repeat the phrase because they have learned to do so. They never acknowledge that when factors beyond per capita GDP are considered, it makes little sense to claim Sweden should be compared to the US, but not Argentina.  Such assertions ignore immense differences in culture, size, politics, history, demographics, or ethnic diversity. Comparisons with mono-ethnic Asian countries like Japan and Korea make even less sense...

 

 

 

Indeed, it makes more sense to compare the US to other states in the  Americas than to Europe or Japan. The US and most Latin American countries were settled in similar time periods. They are frontier countries settled mostly by European immigrants that displaced a native population (to varying degrees), and most of them gained independence from European imperial nations in a similar time period. They tend to have ethnically diverse populations, and many have been impacted by the slave trade that ended in the 19^th century. 

 

European countries share very few of these qualities in common with the US. 

 

So, it would seem that the old diktat of “thou shalt only compare US murder rates to the approved 'developed' countries" is based on really no objective standard at all. And we should stop doing it.

 

If we’re honestly trying to evaluate the nature of crime and violence in a comparative atmosphere, we cannot limit ourselves to a handful of countries that have very little in common with the US beyond a handful of economic indicators. 

 

 

 

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[Utilit99 4,099]

49 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Then why make any weapon illegal - bombs, grenades, fully-automatic, etc.?  After all, "a crazed person" will just find ways to cause havoc regardless.

Interesting that doesn't happen in other 1st world countries with strict gun control.  Shouldn't they be blowing up pressure cookers or lighting school buses on fire?  Those countries have crazy people too. It doesn't make any sense.

Gee, perhaps it's because guns are so much easier to kill with.?.  Which means guns actually are the root cause.  Nice try KSB.

Those two black dudes that just raped and killed a white chick at spring break didn't have a gun. What do you want to ban there? Black guys, white chicks, penises, or drugs?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,170]

32 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

So why were the two biggest terrorists incidents committed by Muslims against Americans committed during the Reagan and Bush Jr presidencies?

 Because Bush and Clinton were Betas as well. 

[tubby_mcgee 699]

3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Those two black dudes that just raped and killed a white chick at spring break didn't have a gun. What do you want to ban there? Black guys, white chicks, penises, or drugs?

Yeah but that's different.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,170]

8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Those two black dudes that just raped and killed a white chick at spring break didn't have a gun. What do you want to ban there? Black guys, white chicks, penises, or drugs?

They was just trying to feed their families. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They was just trying to feed their families. 

They did mention petty theft. The healthy girl was blocking their way and wouldn't allow the desperate black guys to feed their families.

So she got what she deserved.

[tubby_mcgee 699]

37 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

So why were the two biggest terrorists incidents committed by Muslims against Americans committed during the Reagan and Bush Jr presidencies?

Because conservatives are 100% anti-terrorist  and called and basically called for war on terrorists. 
 

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what you were trying to get at.

So let me get this straight. 

If a kid gets expelled from school for punching a teacher, throwing rocks through the windows of the school, etc  (that's what conservatives thought process is on terrorists-- throw them the fock out and keep them the fock out-- basically expel them ), and that same kid comes back and shoots up the school,  it's somewhat the principal's and or superintendent's fault, because they shouldn't have have "been so anti-poor behavior" ?

 

[GobbleDog 918]

44 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

It absolutely happens in other "1st world countries" They use guns, bombs, knives and even trucks...

This one comes to mind because I will never forget that dead little girl covered in a sheet with a doll next to her. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/france-truck-attack/terror-truck-how-attack-nice-unfolded-n610321

So take your "it doesn't happen in other countries" bullsh1t and go fock yourself.

ETA - Ban trucks because they are easier to kill with. After all it was the root cause.

Of course mass-killings happen everywhere.  Guess where they happen the most.  Even on a per capita basis - by far.  Why is that?  So strange.  Maybe because guns are the easiest to kill with and guns are ridiculously easy to obtain in the US??? Nah, that can't be it.

Yall make it sound like if guns were illegal, the U.S. would still have the same amount of mass-killings every year.  "They'd just use trucks instead." A few would, but most wouldn't.

"Ban trucks" - meaning banning anything is pointless since trucks can be used to kill.?. Ugh...(it's like debating with a 5 y.o.)  Then why ban fully-automatic weapons?  After all, attackers could always use a truck.  Why ban anything? Tell ya what, when trucks are being used to kill at unacceptable levels and serve virtually no other purpose, I'll go along with banning trucks. Til then, don't be stupid. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,170]

How many people have the proud boys killed? Now do Muslims. 

[tubby_mcgee 699]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

How many people have the proud boys killed? Now do Muslims. 

But that's different.  Liberals are anti-Proud boys ...so.... ya know... its just different. It just is. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

Sad that I’m seeing TONS of screenshots of the liberal retards saying “white men are the greatest threat to the country” and that “of course it was a white guy who shot people”. Of course , the people who said that deleted their comments but screenshots last forever. Wish people would get them fired like they do to anyone who doesn’t share their views 

[Mr. Hand 482]

2 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Sad that I’m seeing TONS of screenshots of the liberal retards saying “white men are the greatest threat to the country” and that “of course it was a white guy who shot people”. Of course , the people who said that deleted their comments but screenshots last forever. Wish people would get them fired like they do to anyone who doesn’t share their views 

Rusty should be banned.

[GobbleDog 918]

29 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Focking scared little liberal.   You focks just get in the way.

Debating isn't you're strong suit.  Name calling though... well, you're not good at that either. But a typical response from gun right advocates.  See thread.

BTW - I voted for Trump twice. Am I still a "scared little liberal?"  Simply because we disagree on one issue? 

[GobbleDog 918]

1 hour ago, Casual Observer said:

They use blades, too.  Google Lee Rigby for example.  I don't know why the comparison to "other first world countries".  We aren't other first world countries.  Other first world countries don't have free speech and they certainly don't have a constitutionally-protected to right to bear arms.  

[wiffleball 4,760]

11 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Because conservatives are 100% anti-terrorist  and called and basically called for war on terrorists. 
 

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what you were trying to get at.

So let me get this straight. 

If a kid gets expelled from school for punching a teacher, throwing rocks through the windows of the school, etc  (that's what conservatives thought process is on terrorists-- throw them the fock out and keep them the fock out-- basically expel them ), and that same kid comes back and shoots up the school,  it's somewhat the principal's and or superintendent's fault, because they shouldn't have have "been so anti-poor behavior" ?

 

God you're dim. Your little buddy said that the reason Muslims attack us is because they don't fear us. Because of Cucks (his term) like Biden and clinton. Yet...

 

Can't really explain it anymore simply than that. And shouldn't have to.

 

 

 

 

 

[Strike 4,818]

I'm confused about one thing.  Why didn't we send a bunch of social workers to deal with this guy?

[Rusty Syringes 478]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

Rusty should be banned.

We fought in 2020
Rum ta ta tum tum tum
And drove off Clownzo. It was funny.
Rum ta ta tum tum tum

We're in a bigger, better place
And feeling quite sublime
We know what we're fighting for
But we didn't know the last time

So load the cannon! Draw the blade!
Rum ta ta tum tum tum
Come on and join the big parade
Rum ta ta tum tum
Rum ta ta tum tum
Rum ta ta tum tum tum

(Chorus 1)
Let the drums roll out
Let the trumpet call
While the people shout
"Strike up the Hand"

Hear the cymbals ring
Callin' one and all
To the martial swing
Strike up the Hand

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

I'm confused about one thing.  Why didn't we send a bunch of social workers to deal with this guy?

That's Trump's fault. By now we should have a very active and mobile system of social workers ready to deploy at a moments notice (or when their calendars are free) to instantly stop these heinous acts of violence or when the social workers have an opening.

[TK0001 98]

It's "Cue the Mass Shootings", you illiterate dolt.

[Mr. Hand 482]

2 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

We fought in 2020
Rum ta ta tum tum tum
And drove off Clownzo. It was funny.
Rum ta ta tum tum tum

We're in a bigger, better place
And feeling quite sublime
We know what we're fighting for
But we didn't know the last time

So load the cannon! Draw the blade!
Rum ta ta tum tum tum
Come on and join the big parade
Rum ta ta tum tum
Rum ta ta tum tum
Rum ta ta tum tum tum

(Chorus 1)
Let the drums roll out
Let the trumpet call
While the people shout
"Strike up the Hand"

Hear the cymbals ring
Callin' one and all
To the martial swing
Strike up the Hand

You are a piece of work.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How many people have the proud boys killed? Now do Muslims. 

Right-wing extremists in this country as of July had killed 329 people in the past 25 years, while Antifa had killed exactly zero.

This doesn't include the one Antifa guy who killed someone, I believe, back in September, nor does it include the lives lost in the traitorous Capitol attack, with all that blood on alt-righty hands.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

You really should do your research before you make yourself look like such an ignorant fool.

[TK0001 98]

Just now, Mr. Hand said:

You are a piece of work.

Devastating. That'll get him to stop, surely.

[Cdub100 3,689]

18 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Of course mass-killings happen everywhere.  Guess where they happen the most.  Even on a per capita basis - by far.  Why is that?  So strange.  Maybe because guns are the easiest to kill with and guns are ridiculously easy to obtain in the US??? Nah, that can't be it.

Yall make it sound like if guns were illegal, the U.S. would still have the same amount of mass-killings every year.  "They'd just use trucks instead." A few would, but most wouldn't.

"Ban trucks" - meaning banning anything is pointless since trucks can be used to kill.?. Ugh...(it's like debating with a 5 y.o.)  Then why ban fully-automatic weapons?  After all, attackers could always use a truck.  Why ban anything? Tell ya what, when trucks are being used to kill at unacceptable levels and serve virtually no other purpose, I'll go along with banning trucks. Til then, don't be stupid. 

 

Well, considering black males between 18-35 who make up 4% of the population account for 51% of mass killings.

That would explain it. But math is racist so nobody can talk about it. So there you go. It's not strange at all.  It's very predictable. 

 

[Mr. Hand 482]

Just now, TK0001 said:

Devastating. That'll get him to stop, surely.

He will never stop. His life is about trolling on a internet message board.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

3 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

It's "Cue the Mass Shootings", you illiterate dolt.

Perhaps he means lining up the mass shootings so they're all nice and tidy.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, TK0001 said:

Devastating. That'll get him to stop, surely.

We have another rusty sighting.