Ukraine - Doomsday

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

Saw a story tonight about the Russians suspected of cutting underwater cables off the Irish coast - ahead of Russian war games there. Some 100,000 troops at the Ukraine border. NATO military forces on standby, with military equipment being pumped into the Ukraine. 

Thoughts?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051]

Joe will save the day

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Saw a story tonight about the Russians suspected of cutting underwater cables off the Irish coast - ahead of Russian war games there. Some 100,000 troops at the Ukraine border. NATO military forces on standby, with military equipment being pumped into the Ukraine. 

Thoughts?

So given your track record on threads like this, are you going to whine about Spain now for the next couple years in this thread?

[shorepatrol 1,828]

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

A small incursion into Ukraine by Russia is ok. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,404]

The Ukraine & America are weak!

[KSB2424 3,100]

Can somebody post the in's an out's of this?  My only recollection is that when the USSR dissolved like 30 years ago. The Ukraine came to be and now that border is being tested again  by a saber rattling Putin.  

If so, seems like a NATO response is required.  Not USA only but a NATO response, more European if no one else. 

What I don't want to see is more U.S personnel on the Ukraine / Russia border than the USA / Mexico border.  That would be weird and wrong and stupid. 

[GobbleDog 918]

I've read Russia's thirst for land is similar to Hitler's Germany. Hitler wanted all the land back that previously belonged to Germany prior to WW1. Russia (and specifically Putin) wants all their Soviet states back. It's a matter of pride.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

3 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Can somebody post the in's an out's of this?  My only recollection is that when the USSR dissolved like 30 years ago  the Ukraine came to be and now that border is being tested again  by a saber rattling Putin.  

If so, seems like a NATO response is required.  Not USA only but a NATO response, more European if no one else. 

What I don't want to see is more U.S personnel on the Ukraine / Russia border than the USA / Mexico border.  That would be weird.  

The US wants Ukraine in NATO so we can have a military presence on the Russian border. Putin doesn’t want the west to have a military presence on his border. NATO doesn’t even want the Ukraine in NATO. They would be a burden to the NATO countries, and they are corrupt.  But our neocons want it so here we are. 

[KSB2424 3,100]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The US wants Ukraine in NATO so we can have a military presence on the Russian border. Putin doesn’t want the west to have a military presence on his border. NATO doesn’t even want the Ukraine in NATO. They would be a burden to the NATO countries, and they are corrupt.  But our neocons want it so here we are. 

Seems like an easy fix. Ukraine isn't "large enough" for NATO yet, everyone winks and shakes hands in peace. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,126]

Everyone knew Joe was going war...its their plan..

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Seems like an easy fix. Ukraine isn't "large enough" for NATO yet, everyone winks and shakes hands in peace. 

Sure does seem simple. But there’s a  bunch of neocons pulling Bidens strings And Pelosi is bringing forth a bill called “ The defending Ukraine sovereignty act”.  I’m sure Liz Cheney ghost wrote it for her and Susan Rice helped as well. 

[Cdub100 3,689]

It's funny to me people believe the Democrats and media on this issue.

Wag the dog.

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A small incursion into Ukraine by Russia is ok. 

No, it's not, and that was a stoopid focking thing for Biden to say. Weak. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

Why is it whenever there’s a conflict in the world, america feels the need to always butt in? It’s not our responsibility 

[Gepetto 1,192]

When will Ukraine help stop the Mexican invasion of the United States?

[edjr 6,308]

Jews have to wear masks forever?

[edjr 6,308]

9 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

When will Ukraine help stop the Mexican invasion of the United States?

maybe we can do like a fortnite bus and drop them off?

[BeenHereBefore 1,404]

2 hours ago, edjr said:

maybe we can do like a fortnite bus and drop them off?

You play Fortnite ? Arron Rodgers ain't got nothing on you.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

7 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

Can somebody post the in's an out's of this?  My only recollection is that when the USSR dissolved like 30 years ago. The Ukraine came to be and now that border is being tested again  by a saber rattling Putin.  

If so, seems like a NATO response is required.  Not USA only but a NATO response, more European if no one else. 

What I don't want to see is more U.S personnel on the Ukraine / Russia border than the USA / Mexico border.  That would be weird and wrong and stupid. 

It's a nothinghurger.  Russia has no interest in starting ww3.  Remember in recent years, lunatics were CERTAIN ww3 was going to be started by north korea.  Or that trump would start ww3 by having a bad day.  The MSM just want to shift the focus off of biden.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Put it simply, there will be no ukraine-russia war. 

 

There are regions of Ukraine that are pro-russia and they will bicker with other regions of Ukraine, but nothing is happening here. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

Put it simply, there will be no ukraine-russia war. 

 

There are regions of Ukraine that are pro-russia and they will bicker with other regions of Ukraine, but nothing is happening here. 

If biden were smart, he would would bring in Trump to handle things. And then endorse him in 2024. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

 Waiting for the big guy to work his Ukraine magic.

[RLLD 3,928]

Biden is not up to this....   

[Cdub100 3,689]

3 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

It's a nothinghurger.  Russia has no interest in starting ww3.  Remember in recent years, lunatics were CERTAIN ww3 was going to be started by north korea.  Or that trump would start ww3 by having a bad day.  The MSM just want to shift the focus off of biden.  

Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksiy Danilov told reporters on Tuesday that Kyiv considers – and intelligence reports from the West agree – that “internal destabilization” caused by panic over a potential further Russian invasion is “the number one issue,” not any potential invasion.

Wag the Dog

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/us-allies-discuss-deploying-more-troops/index.html

[vomit 502]

Maybe if Trump was back in office they would go back to playing nice again.

Great job Biden voters.

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

18 minutes ago, vomit said:

Maybe if Trump was back in office they would go back to playing nice again.

Great job Biden voters.

Nah. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

17 minutes ago, vomit said:

Maybe if Trump was back in office they would go back to playing nice again.

Great job Biden voters.

Yes, Biden voters suck, but the question is whether they are still playing nice, and all this is a big lie.  The Russia vs Ukraine thing has been used to scared libs for several lefty presidencies and always seems to work.  They are deathly afraid of Putin.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

Bidens disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan brought this about. Weakness in one place begets aggression in another. 

[[echo] 82]

why is it our "problem" is Vlad invaded Ukraine?.. go-ahead vlad.. knock your self out..

sanctions, sure.. but boots in the mud?.. no focking way.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

“Joe Biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security decision for the last four decades “ Robert Gates,  Obama’s Defense Secretary. Make it five decades. 

[RLLD 3,928]

28 minutes ago, [echo] said:

why is it our "problem" is Vlad invaded Ukraine?.. go-ahead vlad.. knock your self out..

sanctions, sure.. but boots in the mud?.. no focking way.

I suspect this is intended to be an example for China regarding Taiwan.....

[TheNewGirl 1,193]

Joe to the rescue. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I suspect this is intended to be an example for China regarding Taiwan.....

If we wanted China to leave Taiwan alone all we would have to say is you can’t sell your stuff here. Wouldn’t have to load a rifle. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, [echo] said:

why is it our "problem" is Vlad invaded Ukraine?.. go-ahead vlad.. knock your self out..

sanctions, sure.. but boots in the mud?.. no focking way.

Rusty should be rushing to his nearest recruiting station to sign up and save us all.  If he's too old, hit up all the defense contractors to serve as private security detail. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

16 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I've read Russia's thirst for land is similar to Hitler's Germany. Hitler wanted all the land back that previously belonged to Germany prior to WW1. Russia (and specifically Putin) wants all their Soviet states back. It's a matter of pride.

Putin has delivered many speeches over the years warning against the woke liberal left and comparing them to hitler.  The woke have a thirst for global power and domination and wish to be dictators.  But he also says western civilization must make its own choice on wether it wants to succumb to these modern nazis or fight back. 

[Mike Honcho 4,731]

8 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Putin has delivered many speeches over the years warning against the woke liberal left and comparing them to hitler.  The woke have a thirst for global power and domination and wish to be dictators.  But he also says western civilization must make its own choice on wether it wants to succumb to these modern nazis or fight back. 

Maybe he's afraid of competition. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

20 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Saw a story tonight about the Russians suspected of cutting underwater cables off the Irish coast - ahead of Russian war games there. Some 100,000 troops at the Ukraine border. NATO military forces on standby, with military equipment being pumped into the Ukraine. 

Thoughts?

imagine if rusty cared about the US-mexico border the way he cares about some random border halfway around the world?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

imagine if rusty cared about the US-mexico border the way he cares about some random border halfway around the world?

Imagine. But he’s a mindless follower, so he won’t. He won’t even allow himself to care about both, as if it’s impossible. It is when you have lingering TDS.