IGotWorms 4,028 Posted November 27 8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Jesus Christ, whatever you want to call it. The ending is the same! Ukraine is giving up something whether they want to or not A Ceasefire or surrender, what's the F'ING difference when the end result is the same. “Something” can be everything Russia has ceased so far or it could be less. It is not all the same and that’s a stupid statement that indicates you have no idea what is at stake here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted November 27 3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: :crickets: Your post was stupid so I’m ignoring it. Zelensky is simply acknowledging the reality that Trump is going to cut their legs out from under them and force them surrender. You really think he’s happy about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,757 Posted November 27 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Your post was stupid so I’m ignoring it. Zelensky is simply acknowledging the reality that Trump is going to cut their legs out from under them and force them surrender. You really think he’s happy about that? As opposed to keeping the war going and going backwards. Hey maybe you will have a different view in 3 years if a million more people are dead and Russia advances further. Newsflash: many people in Ukraine want this to end. Does his quotes read like a guy who is totally upset about those prospects? Hr literally said Ukraine has to strive to end this by next year through deplomency. What part of that do you want to spin? He is literally saying he hopes this war ends very soon. THROUGH DIMPLOMECY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,757 Posted November 27 Since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in late February 2022, the front line of the conflict has remained mostly in the country’s East and South. In 2022, these same regions most exposed to the conflict were least likely to want to keep fighting it, although majorities supported it (63% and 61%, respectively). Over time, support for continuing the war has withered in all regions in Ukraine, no matter how close to the front line they are. Support has dipped below 50% everywhere in 2024. Some of the biggest declines in support for the fight have been in regions far from the front line, including Kyiv (down 39 percentage points) and the West (down 40 points). Among Ukrainians living in the country’s East, more than twice as many people now want the war to end as soon as possible (63%) rather than continue (27%). A fair share of Ukrainians who favor negotiating a quick end to the war believe Ukraine should be open to ceding some territory in exchange for peace. More than half of this group (52%) agrees that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree and another 10% don’t know. Gallup did not ask more details about the level of territorial concessions that people would be open to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,192 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: No American kids are fighting this thing, dipsh1t. And yes, Russia is paying a huge price. That’s how these things work. Russians get tired of their own dying in the war. They get fatigued from this ongoing war Putin started and can’t win (well not until Trump neuters Ukraine). Their economy suffers. Internal strife then forces Putin to back off. THAT is how you win the war for Ukraine, and we’re probably getting close, but instead Trump is going to fock them and then all those deaths (which are on Putin—he is the one who invaded, dumbass) really will be for naught. You are a focking traitor for Putin, and it is disgusting Ukraine is not getting closer. Russia has been making gains recently in eastern Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted November 27 6 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Ukraine is not getting closer. Russia has been making gains recently in eastern Ukraine. I can see you’re not good at reading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted November 27 58 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Your post was stupid so I’m ignoring it. Zelensky is simply acknowledging the reality that Trump is going to cut their legs out from under them and force them surrender. You really think he’s happy about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted November 27 2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: :crickets: Of course. These fockin fags just can’t admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,192 Posted November 27 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: I can see you’re not good at reading You wrote: "and we're probably getting close". I pointed out you're wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted November 28 4 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Zelensky is simply acknowledging the reality that Trump is going to cut their legs out from under them and force them surrender. Where do you Pedocrats come up with this stuff? Always making crap up. That's what just cost you an election, have you not learned anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted November 28 https://www.ft.com/content/6189fdb4-d1ef-4e0b-a7f1-e7f9a7286df5 Hopefully the Russian economy collapses before Trump takes office and gives them Ukraine and lifts the sanctions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,786 Posted November 28 Hopefully, Russia takes out the US funded bio-labs in Ukraine, if they haven't already done it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted November 28 2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: https://www.ft.com/content/6189fdb4-d1ef-4e0b-a7f1-e7f9a7286df5 Hopefully the Russian economy collapses before Trump takes office and gives them Ukraine and lifts the sanctions Too much MSNBC BOYO, it's triggering you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 5 Mike Johnson confirmed today that no more aid for Ukraine. He's letting trump give it to Putin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 5 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Mike Johnson confirmed today that no more aid for Ukraine. Excellent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 5 Reports out of Ukraine are not good. They are begging for boots on the ground but nobody is crazy enough to offer. Russia is chipping away a little at a time but Ukraine is quickly running out of military aged bodies to fight. Money isn't going to do anything at this point. They need a resolution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 5 9 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Reports out of Ukraine are not good. They are begging for boots on the ground but nobody is crazy enough to offer. Russia is chipping away a little at a time but Ukraine is quickly running out of military aged bodies to fight. Money isn't going to do anything at this point. They need a resolution You've been saying this for years. They're still fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 5 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: You've been saying this for years. They're still fighting. Yup, and it's going to go on for a while. Do you think Ukraine can outlast Russia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 5 13 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Yup, and it's going to go on for a while. Do you think Ukraine can outlast Russia? With NATO support absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 5 18 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: With NATO support absolutely. Nato doesn't have boots on the ground in an infantry capacity. They play a support role, intelligence, logistics and training. NATO would never engage Russia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted December 5 Blinken doesn’t care how many die Blinken says Ukraine needs to get younger people fighting Russia Humeyra PamukDecember 4, 202412:24 PM ESTUpdated 21 hours ago BRUSSELS, Dec 4 (Reuters) - Ukraine needs to get younger people into the military to succeed in the war being waged against it by Russia, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday. Blinken's comments, in an interview with Reuters, reflect a growing view among Western officials that Kyiv urgently needs more manpower as well as money and munitions to reverse Russian battlefield gains. The call-up is currently from the age of 25. Ukraine's allies have long avoided raising the issue publicly, given its political sensitivity. But Blinken's comments suggest they now hope public pressure will lead Kyiv to reconsider its resistance to mobilising younger people. The issue has become more acute with the future of U.S. support for Ukraine uncertain as Kyiv waits for President-elect Donald Trump to outline his policy on the war. "These are very hard decisions, and I fully both understand that and respect that," Blinken said in the interview at NATO headquarters in Brussels after attending a two-day meeting of the military alliance's foreign ministers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 5 Just now, HellToupee said: Blinken doesn’t care how many die Blinken says Ukraine needs to get younger people fighting Russia Humeyra PamukDecember 4, 202412:24 PM ESTUpdated 21 hours ago BRUSSELS, Dec 4 (Reuters) - Ukraine needs to get younger people into the military to succeed in the war being waged against it by Russia, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday. Blinken's comments, in an interview with Reuters, reflect a growing view among Western officials that Kyiv urgently needs more manpower as well as money and munitions to reverse Russian battlefield gains. The call-up is currently from the age of 25. Ukraine's allies have long avoided raising the issue publicly, given its political sensitivity. But Blinken's comments suggest they now hope public pressure will lead Kyiv to reconsider its resistance to mobilising younger people. The issue has become more acute with the future of U.S. support for Ukraine uncertain as Kyiv waits for President-elect Donald Trump to outline his policy on the war. "These are very hard decisions, and I fully both understand that and respect that," Blinken said in the interview at NATO headquarters in Brussels after attending a two-day meeting of the military alliance's foreign ministers. Ukraine is a nation of slavery anyway. Who cares if they all get offed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 5 4 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Yup, and it's going to go on for a while. Do you think Ukraine can outlast Russia? At this point I'm rooting for Trump to pressure Zelensky to accept some kind of deal, letting go of what Russia seized, maybe keeping the Russian turf that Ukraine took and creating some kind of NATO protection of Ukraine without necessarily bringing in that country as a full member. Otherwise, this senseless slaughter will just go on for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 5 45 minutes ago, Death said: Otherwise, this senseless slaughter will just go on for years. Nothing wrong with slaughtering slave traders. bltch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 5 2 hours ago, jbycho said: Nothing wrong with slaughtering slave traders. bltch. It was Russia who kidnapped all those Ukrainian kids, cupcake. Russia is far worse than Ukraine. You should read up on subjects before offering up proof of your ugly ignorance. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/worst-countries-for-human-trafficking?slide=21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 5 1 minute ago, Death said: It was Russia who kidnapped all those Ukrainian kids, cupcake. Russia is far worse than Ukraine. You should read up on subjects before offering up proof of your ugly ignorance. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/worst-countries-for-human-trafficking?slide=21 What's with your love affair of Ukraine? It's one of the most corrupt places on the planet. I was there in 2012 training with UASOF. A total waste of our time and resources. However I did learn how corrupt of a Country it was. The Mafia runs EVERYTHING. Trust me, don't feel sorry for that shizzhole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 5 2 hours ago, Death said: It was Russia who kidnapped all those Ukrainian kids, cupcake. Russia is far worse than Ukraine. You should read up on subjects before offering up proof of your ugly ignorance. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/worst-countries-for-human-trafficking?slide=21 You are an idiot. Fock Ukraine. I hope they are wiped out completely in short order. Which seems likely at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, jbycho said: You are an idiot. Fock Ukraine. I hope they are wiped out completely in short order. Which seems likely at this point. I just slaughtered you with a scary little thing called a fact. You should be rooting for Ukraine against one of the worst human-trafficing country's on the planet. You should be rooting for democracy over tyranny and freedom over oppression. But you're lack of knowledge and intelligence mixed with the brainwashing that your infotainment overlords have caused you make it impossible for you to understand actual facts, humanity and common sense. But you have a great evening! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 Russia kidnapped Russian kids. Sure thing Rusty. Idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, Death said: I just slaughtered you with a scary little thing called a fact. You should be rooting for Ukraine against one of the worst human-trafficing country's on the planet. You should be rooting for democracy over tyranny and freedom over oppression. But you're lack of knowledge and intelligence mixed with the brainwashing that your infotainment overlords have caused you make it impossible for you to understand actual facts, humanity and common sense. But you have a great evening! Look at you trying to use the human trafficking against Russia. When in fact Ukraine is the worst. You libtards are so stupid. You keep trying to accuse others of your own sins. You suck pimpledoosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Russia kidnapped Russian kids. Sure thing Rusty. Idiot. Ukrainian kids, yes it's happening. https://hub.conflictobservatory.org/portal/apps/sites/?fbclid=IwY2xjawG71PxleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHWYr4qkN7oz0dhLNf31FGRvEpJbrpILHADRU3G3qrPxTTJoh7zS16eO9Qw_aem_34JNpFukajSxAg53Nnh83A#/home/pages/ukraine-russia-children-adoption Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Ukrainian kids, yes it's happening. https://hub.conflictobservatory.org/portal/apps/sites/?fbclid=IwY2xjawG71PxleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHWYr4qkN7oz0dhLNf31FGRvEpJbrpILHADRU3G3qrPxTTJoh7zS16eO9Qw_aem_34JNpFukajSxAg53Nnh83A#/home/pages/ukraine-russia-children-adoption Those are ethnic Russian kids that their parents wanted out of the war zone. Hence no footage of crying parents you rube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 On 11/27/2024 at 3:44 PM, IGotWorms said: Your post was stupid so I’m ignoring it. Your post is stupid so I'm making fun of you for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Those are ethnic Russian kids that their parents wanted out of the war zone. Hence no footage of crying parents you rube. Repeating Russian propaganda. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 3 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Repeating Russian propaganda. Sad. I can't wait until Ukraine falls and the human trafficking finally takes a massive hit on the world stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, Death said: I just slaughtered you with a scary little thing called a fact. You should be rooting for Ukraine against one of the worst human-trafficing country's on the planet. You should be rooting for democracy over tyranny and freedom over oppression. But you're lack of knowledge and intelligence mixed with the brainwashing that your infotainment overlords have caused you make it impossible for you to understand actual facts, humanity and common sense. But you have a great evening! Prior to Russia’s invasion in February 2022, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) Mission in Ukraine[1] estimated that more than 300,000 Ukrainians had suffered from human trafficking since 1991. An estimated 46,000 Ukrainians were trafficked during 2019-2021; 29,000 abroad and 17,000 in Ukraine. Africa 2.0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 6 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Repeating Russian propaganda. Sad. Any complaints from parents ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Any complaints from parents ? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrainian-mothers-take-extreme-measures-to-rescue-kidnapped-children Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrainian-mothers-take-extreme-measures-to-rescue-kidnapped-children Ukraine has been a source, transit, and destination country for human trafficking since the early 1990s. Men, women, and children are trafficked for the purposes of forced labor and begging and sexual and other forms of exploitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted December 6 The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
