The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 10 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think we can see dishonesty across all media. I think we see more and worse from MSNBC than we see anywhere else. I think you then have CNN, which is basically MSDNC jr. Then you have Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC..... and then you have all the rest. We should object to all the lying, unfortunately some of the lies feed the confirmation bias of folks, and then those folks will come to the defense of that outlet and its lies. https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 It was ok to appoint a special prosecutor and have two years of BS investigators based on obvious Russian propaganda. STFU Gutterboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted December 6 23 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: It is not an opinion—it’s a statement of fact. You seem to struggle in distinguishing between the two, like most MAGAts No. its an opinion. And a bad one at that. Allowing your hatred to flavor your opinion is not the way. Further, even the media knows this now and has stopped these lies for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted December 6 21 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart I did not click your link, if you have an opinion feel free to express one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051 Posted December 6 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: I did not click your link, if you have an opinion feel free to express one. I did, his link is a good one, I saw no problem with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It was ok to appoint a special prosecutor and have two years of BS investigators based on obvious Russian propaganda. STFU Gutterboy. If you're talking about the Mueller report, it was not based on propaganda and it concluded that Russia interfered with the election. The steele dossier which you refer to as the pee pee tape was not deemed to be credible but was not consequential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: I did not click your link, if you have an opinion feel free to express one. MSNBC is on the left, Foxnews on the right, others in the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted December 6 3 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: MSNBC is on the left, Foxnews on the right, others in the middle. That is probably a fair assessment. Though the only issue might be that if we look back over say the last 6-8 years, most of the Fox positions wound up being true whereas the rest all simply regurgitated the government lies. Now before you twist my position on this. I DO NOT look at this as a vindication of Fox news, but instead I think it shows clearly the sycophant relationship between those others and those that were in power.....and media is supposed to be challenging those in power for us. I have less of an issue with the way the leftist media tore after Trump so much as their refusal to to it to Democrats. Can you imagine an impartial media that went after ALL politicians the way they went after Trump.....give me that... THAT is the protection we deserve from media Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 918 Posted December 6 Quote As 2024 draws to a close, and winter arrives, Russian forces are continuing to push their Ukrainian opponents back. In total, Russia has captured and retaken about 907 sq miles of territory in eastern Ukraine and in Russia's western Kursk region. But the cost in lives has been horrendous. Britain's defense ministry says that in November Russia suffered 45,680 casualties, more than during any month since its full-scale invasion in February 2022. According to the latest UK Defense Intelligence estimate, Russia lost a daily average of 1,523 men, killed and wounded. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ewneynypwo Sounds like Putin knows negotiations will begin after Trump is Prez and wants to land grab as much as possible... regardless of human life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: nobody is sympathetic to Russia This is certainly not true in this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,051 Posted December 6 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is certainly not true in this forum. haven't seen it you think anyone here has said, wow I wish Russia would invade another country? nope nobody but once they did, we list reasons, and we despise Ukraine, cause we are against the global war machine and spending endless money on unwinable wars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 52 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: If you're talking about the Mueller report, it was not based on propaganda and it concluded that Russia interfered with the election. The steele dossier which you refer to as the pee pee tape was not deemed to be credible but was not consequential. 100 pct wrong. Go punch yourself in the balls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 100 pct wrong. Go punch yourself in the balls. Nope, 100% Correct. Proof: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: If you're talking about the Mueller report, it was not based on propaganda and it concluded that Russia interfered with the election. The steele dossier which you refer to as the pee pee tape was not deemed to be credible but was not consequential. It’s actually further than that, the Steele dossier basically was 100% right about everything except the pee pee tape, and that could actually be accurate for all we know. But good luck telling any of this to MAGAts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 14 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Nope, 100% Correct. Proof: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign Oh, so the Steele dossier didn’t claim that Trump colluded with the Russians? Also, PBS? Go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted December 6 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh, so the Steele dossier didn’t claim that Trump colluded with the Russians? Also, PBS? Go away. Colluded is not the legal term here. Never was. It’s conspiracy, and yeah, there was one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh, so the Steele dossier didn’t claim that Trump colluded with the Russians? Also, PBS? Go away. Take any link you want, or read the Mueller Report yourself but you're incapable of understanding it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 10 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Take any link you want, or read the Mueller Report yourself but you're incapable of understanding it anyway. No, the Steele dossier claimed Trump colluded with the Russians. You’re just an idiot claiming it didn’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No, the Steele dossier claimed Trump colluded with the Russians. You’re just an idiot claiming it didn’t. I'm not claiming it didn't. What I said was that the Steele Dossier has nothing to do with the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report concluded that Russia interfered with the 2016 election. That's a fact. You said the Mueller Report was Russian Propaganda which is laughable. You have no understanding about how any of this works. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: I'm not claiming it didn't. What I said was that the Steele Dossier has nothing to do with the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report concluded that Russia interfered with the 2016 election. That's a fact. You said the Mueller Report was Russian Propaganda which is laughable. You have no understanding about how any of this works. Based on Russian propaganda . It was the whole reason. You don’t know how it worked. To be arguing this a this point just shows off once again what a thick skull you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 So Gutterdope and Worms are unaware that John McCain gave a copy of the Steele dossier, which was Russian propaganda claiming Trump colluded, to James Comey, leading to Jeff Sessions appointing Mueller. It’s like they don’t know stuff but keep running their mouths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted December 6 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So Gutterdope and Worms are unaware that John McCain gave a copy of the Steele dossier, which was Russian propaganda claiming Trump colluded, to James Comey, leading to Jeff Sessions appointing Mueller. It’s like they don’t know stuff but keep running their mouths. Huh? Sorry bud, but this is coming out of left field 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 6 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So Gutterdope and Worms are unaware that John McCain gave a copy of the Steele dossier, which was Russian propaganda claiming Trump colluded, to James Comey, leading to Jeff Sessions appointing Mueller. It’s like they don’t know stuff but keep running their mouths. Nope. This has been proven false multiple times. The FBI’s investigation originated with George Papadopoulos, not Christopher Steele, months before the FBI even knew about the Steele dossier. Even the Nunes memo supports this. https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18277089/fox-news-steele-dossier-lie-trump-witch-hunt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 6 27 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Nope. This has been proven false multiple times. The FBI’s investigation originated with George Papadopoulos, not Christopher Steele, months before the FBI even knew about the Steele dossier. Even the Nunes memo supports this. https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18277089/fox-news-steele-dossier-lie-trump-witch-hunt Vox much? Weird... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 104 Posted December 6 4 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Is Foxnews dishonest? Is Foxnews the main stream media? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: Huh? Sorry bud, but this is coming out of left field So McCain and Comey played no role ? Is that your take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 6 4 hours ago, IGotWorms said: MAGA are traitors What the F do we owe Ukraine? How exactly am I a traitor? Should I give my 2 Bronze Stars back? I've spent time in Ukraine, it's the most corrupt place I've ever seen and I've been everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 6 3 hours ago, GobbleDog said: Sounds like Putin knows negotiations will begin after Trump is Prez and wants to land grab as much as possible... regardless of human life. It's gearing up for a massive assault on Ukraine's southern border. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 6 20 minutes ago, Death said: It's gearing up for a massive assault on Ukraine's southern border. Good deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted December 6 44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So McCain and Comey played no role ? Is that your take? What are you even talking about, bud? I never said they did or didn’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,404 Posted December 6 23 minutes ago, Death said: It's gearing up for a massive assault on Ukraine's southern border. BIDEN MUST STOP IT I'm confident that he'll prevent the Russians from advancing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: What are you even talking about, bud? I never said they did or didn’t So what did McCain give Comey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,028 Posted December 6 19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So what did McCain give Comey? Dude you’re losing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 6 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Dude you’re losing it . Used to it from you clowns. Run along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 207 Posted December 7 2 hours ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Is Foxnews the main stream media? Yes, it's the most watched cable news channel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 7 Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said: Yes, it's the most watched cable news channel. For good reason. Accurate reporting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 104 Posted December 7 17 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Yes, it's the most watched cable news channel. Do you always ask ignorant questions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 7 18 hours ago, jbycho said: For good reason. Accurate reporting. Except, among other things, that pesky inaccurate voting-machine reporting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 209 Posted December 7 1 minute ago, Death said: Except, among other things, that pesky inaccurate voting-machine reporting. All you need to know is Trump won. Best news of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 143 Posted December 7 Just now, jbycho said: All you need to know is Trump won. Best news of the year. Nice deflection, but I pretty much spiked the ball in regard to noting a gross Fox inaccuracy. Fox is a lying sack of chit that panders to ignorant knuckleheads such as yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
