Voltaire 4,940 Posted December 9 GB Daniel Penny and people like him that look out for their communities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,166 Posted December 9 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Pretty much hasn’t changed. Can you elaborate on this? I haven't been following this thread too closely, are there (respected) posters here saying it was a racist thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted December 10 51 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Can you elaborate on this? I haven't been following this thread too closely, are there (respected) posters here saying it was a racist thing? When this event happened I wrote that the guy never should have been charged much less convicted. I’m glad he wasn’t convicted. But some of those who rose to his defense wrote the ugliest racist garbage- I mean some really revolting stuff. You can go back through the tread and have a look. I wrote that I was embarrassed and nauseated that in this situation I found myself on the “same side” as these bigots. That hasn’t changed. The racism in this forum is really revolting at times. And I feel that you guys who are not racist are to blame in part for never calling it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,268 Posted December 10 10 minutes before Neely died, a Mom with a 2 year old child was desperately trying to fend him off with her stroller as Neely screamed at her “Someone is going to die today!” Six months before the subway attack Neely was arrested trying to abduct a 7 year old girl in Queens, and a month later Neely was arrested for punching a 67 year old lady in the face, breaking her nose & eye sockets. This man was a monster and is dead today SOLELY because of his own actions. He threatened to kill a subway car full of people while high out of his mind on PCP. Penny is a hero for stepping in and subduing him. The only reason Bragg went after him is because of the races of both men. Dude should be arrested and charged with malicious prosecution. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 164 Posted December 10 21 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: 10 minutes before Neely died, a Mom with a 2 year old child was desperately trying to fend him off with her stroller as Neely screamed at her “Someone is going to die today!” Six months before the subway attack Neely was arrested trying to abduct a 7 year old girl in Queens, and a month later Neely was arrested for punching a 67 year old lady in the face, breaking her nose & eye sockets. This man was a monster and is dead today SOLELY because of his own actions. He threatened to kill a subway car full of people while high out of his mind on PCP. Penny is a hero for stepping in and subduing him. The only reason Bragg went after him is because of the races of both men. Dude should be arrested and charged with malicious prosecution. a man stepped up and did what it took to protect people . the guy is a hero, but in todays world he gets charged with a crime. what has happened to our country? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 206 Posted December 10 1 minute ago, shadrap said: a man stepped up and did what it took to protect people . the guy is a hero, but in todays world he gets charged with a crime. what has happened to our country? The sad part is if some non military person did exactly what Penny did in that very situation, he would probably be put away for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,268 Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, shadrap said: a man stepped up and did what it took to protect people . the guy is a hero, but in todays world he gets charged with a crime. what has happened to our country? I’ll tell you what happened - racist, Leftist Prosecutors politicized the justice system. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,812 Posted December 10 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: It took 3 men to take him down and to subdue him. At the end of 6 mins he was alive and in police custody and emt were on scene. Just want to point this out to you. Oh, thanks, I was unaware. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,809 Posted December 10 49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The racism in this forum is really revolting at times. And I feel that you guys who are not racist are to blame in part for never calling it out. Yeah, it's horrible man. You should leave. And for the record, I call it out all the time. You, Peenie, and a few others are sometimes unbearably racist. So I call it out and I endure. 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,655 Posted December 10 23 minutes ago, shadrap said: a man stepped up and did what it took to protect people . the guy is a hero, but in todays world he gets charged with a crime. what has happened to our country? There were witnesses who said they didn't feel threatened and didn't need to be protected. He took the law in his own hands and acted as a vigilante and it resulted in a death. I hope the victim's family brings a civil suit against him and that might discourage others in the future from acting as "a hero" in a similar situation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted December 10 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, it's horrible man. You should leave. And for the record, I call it out all the time. You, Peenie, and a few others are sometimes unbearably racist. So I call it out and I endure. I’m never racist. And you’re one of the biggest hypocrites around because you only call it out when it appears to be, in your mind, from the left. Because it’s all a game to you. You’re so disgusting. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,809 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m never racist. And you’re one of the biggest hypocrites around because you only call it out when it appears to be, in your mind, from the left. Because it’s all a game to you. You’re so disgusting. I call out racism whenever and wherever I see it. Your problem is, like Peenie, you go through life LOOKING for racism. And if you go looking for something you're usually going to find it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 206 Posted December 10 20 minutes ago, squistion said: There were witnesses who said they didn't feel threatened and didn't need to be protected. He took the law in his own hands and acted as a vigilante and it resulted in a death. I hope the victim's family brings a civil suit against him and that might discourage others in the future from acting as "a hero" in a similar situation. Too bad. You lost again. It's so awesome. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,812 Posted December 10 I am not racist at all. I’m glad that man was strong and subdued him. But, he choked the homeless dude for too a long time and caused his death, period. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,655 Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, jbycho said: Too bad. You lost again. It's so awesome. Yeah, I also lost with the OJ acquittal, but with the jury system it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 206 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Yeah, I also lost with the OJ acquittal, but with the jury system it happens. It's funny you are this stupid to compare the two. Yet another loss by you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,655 Posted December 10 1 minute ago, jbycho said: It's funny you are this stupid to compare the two. Yet another loss by you. An apt comparison as it was an acquittal by a jury of someone obviously guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted December 10 Liberals calling for violence. As they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,268 Posted December 10 33 minutes ago, jbycho said: It's funny you are this stupid to compare the two. Yet another loss by you. Pigeon-loving Limousine Liberal is dumb as a box of rocks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,268 Posted December 10 48 minutes ago, peenie said: I am not racist at all. I’m glad that man was strong and subdued him. But, he choked the homeless dude for too a long time and caused his death, period. Stop talking as if you know the facts of the case, because you don’t. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,415 Posted December 10 1 hour ago, jbycho said: Too bad. You lost again. It's so awesome. 100 people were threatened, but only one person didnt feel threatened so that means nothing should have been done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,166 Posted December 10 1 hour ago, squistion said: There were witnesses who said they didn't feel threatened and didn't need to be protected. He took the law in his own hands and acted as a vigilante and it resulted in a death. I hope the victim's family brings a civil suit against him and that might discourage others in the future from acting as "a hero" in a similar situation. Some witnesses didn't feel threatened, so he wasn't a threat? Brilliant, Clarence Darrow! Also, you clearly have no women or other people in your life who could use protecting in such a situation. My daughter rides the subway in NYC every day and I thank God for men like Daniel Penny who haven't become beta cucks. You should do the same, because you aren't protecting any of your loved ones with your attitude. Also also, I like how you ignore my posts, allegedly because I called you an idiot once, yet you respond to jbycho (seafoam) who insults you with every post. The real reason you ignore me is that you have no substantive response to me, ever. George Orwell: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” Have a nice night. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,373 Posted December 10 Liberal BLM threatening to riot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 7 hours ago, jerryskids said: Also, you clearly have no women or other people in your life who could use protecting in such a situation. My daughter rides the subway in NYC every day and I thank God for men like Daniel Penny who haven't become beta cucks. You should do the same, because you aren't protecting any of your loved ones with your attitude. Funny because you vote for and support "alpha men" who want to take away womens rights and engage in a culture of sexual assault and dominion over women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,045 Posted December 10 9 hours ago, peenie said: I am not racist at all. I’m glad that man was strong and subdued him. But, he choked the homeless dude for too a long time and caused his death, period. No. It didn’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,045 Posted December 10 9 hours ago, squistion said: An apt comparison as it was an acquittal by a jury of someone obviously guilty. Focking moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,363 Posted December 10 6 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Liberal BLM threatening to riot If they do, I believe they’re going to get more pushback this time around. The public has had enough of their sh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,363 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No. It didn’t Let her argue with the coroner. She already said she didn’t know much about the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 512 Posted December 10 10 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Let her argue with the coroner. She already said she didn’t know much about the case. I thought it was established that he was alive and breathing when Penny released his hold?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No. It didn’t Yes he did, according to the medical examiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,363 Posted December 10 10 minutes ago, MLCKAA said: I thought it was established that he was alive and breathing when Penny released his hold?? It was, and the coroner testified as much to say he didn’t die by asphyxiation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said: It was, and the coroner testified as much to say he didn’t die by asphyxiation. The medical examiner testified that he died from asphyxiation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,655 Posted December 10 59 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: The medical examiner testified that he died from asphyxiation. That is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,045 Posted December 10 1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Yes he did, according to the medical examiner. 22 minutes ago, squistion said: That is correct. you guys just love to push a narrative, this coroner shouldn't even be working if this is how she handles things Neely had K2 in his system, a synthetic marijuana that’s classified as a stimulant like cocaine. He also had a sickle cell condition that got triggered because of the chokehold, Dr. Harris testified. On cross examination, Dr. Harris conceded some of Neely’s injuries could have been consistent with a struggle and resuscitation efforts. Dr. Harris, who was a fellow under supervision when she conducted the autopsy, also testified about how the cause of death was determined. The day after Neely died — the cause of death was “pending further investigation.” Dr. Harris testified that she wanted to wait for a full toxicology report. Then, a day later, the cause of death changed to compression of the neck. Dr. Harris saw the cell phone video. “No toxicological report could have changed my opinion,” Dr. Harris said. She also did not wait for genetic testing on Neely’s heart and other tests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 So where does the ME determine the cause of death is not asyphixiation? This isn't the gotcha you think it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,045 Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: So where does the ME determine the cause of death is not asyphixiation? This isn't the gotcha you think it is. she released the cause of death before the autopsy and toxicology she said during the trial that there could have been other issues either way good man free bad man dead next go back to rooting for assassins to kill people 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: she released the cause of death before the autopsy and toxicology she said during the trial that there could have been other issues either way good man free bad man dead next go back to rooting for assassins to kill people She testified during the trial that the cause of death was asphyxiation, just like I said. But your guy won, so congrats, no need to try and lie about anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,045 Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: She testified during the trial that the cause of death was asphyxiation, just like I said. But GOOD guy won, so congrats, no need to try and lie about anything. fixed for you, not lying, there are other circumstances around his death, just like with your hero george woman beater floyd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,166 Posted December 10 3 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: Funny because you vote for and support "alpha men" who want to take away womens rights and engage in a culture of sexual assault and dominion over women. I did? I voted for a guy who appointed conservative justices who decided abortion was a state issue. In Arizona, because of the amendment to the state constitution, women have more freedom to kill their unborn child than ever before. Isn't that great, Gutter?! More dead babies, whee! How are things in Jersey, are abortions outlawed yet? That same man has appointed women as chief of staff (first ever) and AG. He also has strong, capable daughers and daughters in-law. Trump likes confident, capable people, doesn't matter if they are male or female. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 192 Posted December 10 15 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I did? I voted for a guy who appointed conservative justices who decided abortion was a state issue. In Arizona, because of the amendment to the state constitution, women have more freedom to kill their unborn child than ever before. Isn't that great, Gutter?! More dead babies, whee! How are things in Jersey, are abortions outlawed yet? That same man has appointed women as chief of staff (first ever) and AG. He also has strong, capable daughers and daughters in-law. Trump likes confident, capable people, doesn't matter if they are male or female. You voted for an adjudicated rapist, a serial sexual assaulter who partied with Jeffery Epstein, a predator, a fraud who was behind the removal of Roe v Wade and all the rights that women have lost or will lose because of it. You voted for a con man who nominated a child rapist and trafficker for his AG, a sexual assaulter and serial adulterer to be in charge of health, an accused rapist drunk who wants to remove women from combat for sec of defense. But you think these are "alphas" that will protect the women in your life. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites