Adults shouting at children can be as harmful as sexual or physical abuse, study finds...

[posty 2,604]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/adults-shouting-children-harmful-sexual-211508528.html

Parents, teachers, coaches and other adults shouting at, denigrating or verbally threatening children can be as damaging to their development as sexual or physical abuse, a new study finds.

The study, published in the journal Child Abuse & Neglect, reviewed 166 earlier studies to produce a detailed analysis of the existing literature on the topic.

The authors called for childhood verbal abuse to be ascribed its own category of maltreatment to facilitate prevention.

Child maltreatment is currently classified into four categories — physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, of which verbal abuse is a part, and neglect — and this study can inform strategies for prevention and treatment.

Unlike other forms of emotional abuse, including indifference, silent treatment and witnessing domestic violence, researchers categorized verbal abuse as more “overt” and said it “warrants special attention.”

Commissioned by Words Matter — a British charity that aims to improve children’s health by ending verbal abuse — the study was carried out by researchers at Wingate University in North Carolina and University College London.

“Childhood verbal abuse desperately needs to be acknowledged as an abuse subtype because of the lifelong negative consequences,” said professor Shanta Dube, the study’s lead author and director of Wingate University’s Master of Public Health Program, in a statement.

The study, which studied the impact of shouting by adults such as parents, teachers and coaches, cited several papers that suggested the lasting effects of childhood verbal abuse can manifest as mental distress, such as depression and anger; externalizing symptoms, such as committing crimes, substance use or perpetrating abuse; and physical health outcomes, such as developing obesity or lung disease.

Jessica Bondy, the founder of Words Matter, stressed the importance of grasping “the true scale and impact of childhood verbal abuse.”

“All adults get overloaded sometimes and say things unintentionally,” she said in a statement. “We have to work collectively to devise ways to recognize these actions and end childhood verbal abuse by adults so children can flourish.”

This latest study found that a potentially significant “shift in childhood abuse may be occurring,” as the prevalence of childhood emotional abuse has increased while physical and sexual abuse have declined, according to the World Health Organization in 2014 and four other papers cited in the new study.

Researchers also called for a “need for consistency” in defining childhood verbal abuse so that its “prevalence and impact can be appropriately measured, and interventions developed.

Resources available on the Words Matter website encourage adults to avoid shouting, insults, putdowns or name calling when talking to children, as well as thinking before speaking and taking time to repair a relationship with the child after something hurtful has been said.

Similarly, the first rule of yelling is to refrain from critique while doing it, Elizabeth Gershoff, a professor of human development and family sciences at the University of Texas at Austin and researcher on parental discipline, told CNN in 2019.

Considering the audience is important too, she added. Toddlers are likely to only absorb the frustration and not the substance of the yell, while some children respond differently to being yelled at.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

This kind of stuff is so ridiculous and damaging to victims of sexual and physical abuse.

You can make your point (screaming at your kids is bad) without suggesting it’s the same as child rape

[jonnyutah 238]

But then who would give grants and donations to their silly little organization? 

This is just more proof that studies almost always yield the result wanted. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

Yell at them….abuse

Allow removal of pen!s and breasts…endorsed by Federal govt

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,684]

The liberals stopped parents from spanking and look what happened. Kids are out of control.

The liberal solution to this problem is, don’t yell at your kids. They still can’t see where this is going.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,891]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Yell at them….abuse

Allow removal of pen!s and breasts…endorsed by Federal govt

 

 

It’s a platform of the Democratic Party. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

35 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The liberals stopped parents from spanking and look what happened. Kids are out of control.

The liberal solution to this problem is, don’t yell at your kids. They still can’t see where this is going.

 

You can still beat your kids if you want to.

[RogerDodger 797]

Sticks and stones

[KSB2424 3,148]

 There is a difference between constant berating and verbally abusing children (or anyone) and parenting or coaching which involves raising your voice aka shouting occasionally.  

Verbal abuse is a thing, it’s mentally breaking down a person when done constantly and over time.  The way that article reads doesn’t differentiate the two enough for me. 

[Vikings4ever 538]

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, RogerDodger said:

Sticks and stones

 

 

Like anything else, there needs to be balance. 

The key distinction, IMHO, is whether an action is "purposeful" as a parent. 

Being a total savage to your children ( however people want to define that for themselves) for the sake of pure anger, and without purpose, is useless. However, if there's a goal, a plan, a strategy and a purpose, then I believe each situation needs to be examined closely. 

Different children require different handling. Most people are not suited to be parents. Not even close. An interesting segue here is Phil Simms told a story about Parcells. How Simms had a good game and he threw it in Parcell's face, because the Big Tuna was always so hard on him. Instead of retaliating, Parcells simply said he felt sorry for Simms, that he thought that this was the very best he could do, and to be content with that, because Parcells saw more potential in him than that. When Ricky Williams was up for a possible contract extension, Parcells refused to speak to him. Just walked past him during a practice and handed him a piece of paper with simple breakdown of years and numbers. When the Big Tuna got to Miami, he immediately cut Zach Thomas and kept Jason Taylor. Which is pretty much textbook Parcells, jettison a respected guy from the "old regime", to show things were going to change and no one was safe, then keep a respected guy from the old regime who bought into the program, to show that everyone had to fall in line, even guys who had locker room juice before. 

"Yelling" is in the "toolbox" of parenting. A "tool" can be a weapon sometimes. Or what's needed and essential in other situations. I don't think most American adults have the self awareness and skill to use those tools effectively. 

What I will say is yelling has limited value if you use it too often. Even if the intent is purposeful. Just like a football coach who chews everyone out all the time. After a while, like early Tom Coughlin, it just gets exhausting. Then people tune you out. 

Shouting at your kids, in terms of actual child abuse, is a lagging indicator. Usually the bigger problem is the adult is a worthless POS. Maybe the kid is also, tragically, a worthless POS too. But most kids, who have problems, just need help. However a small subsection are just crap human beings who are not yet grown enough to be correctly labeled as a true problem. I think it's important to make the distinction that there are just some people, both adults and kids, who just can't be saved. However with kids, the prevailing hope is you want to give the kids as many options as possible. To at least try. 

Telling a parent they can never yell at their kids is like telling a kid that he can never get into a fistfight at school. Sometimes, in some situations, all there is left is to trade punches. Even as kids. Don't take tools out of the toolbox. However recognize that most adults shouldn't have kids in the first place. 

[avoiding injuries 1,501]

This sounds like something a pedo would say to normalize their behavior. 

[HellToupee 1,573]

40 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

This sounds like something a pedo would say to normalize their behavior. 

It’s like those pedos trying to change the term to MAP 

[seafoam1 2,792]

"Yelling at your kids is bad. Taking naked showers with them is good. "  -Joe Biden

[edjr 6,578]

my kid is in real trouble 

[avoiding injuries 1,501]

Must be true. CNN posted it too 

https://x.com/cnn/status/1709048172293632196?s=46

[5-Points 3,372]

Kids today are poosays. America's best days are behind her.

 

[edjr 6,578]

11 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Kids today are poosays. America's best days are behind her.

 

Fact.  

I remember being physically abused and yelled at.  Guess what? I will take the being yelled at every time. 

[5-Points 3,372]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

Fact.  

I remember being physically abused and yelled at.  Guess what? I will take the being yelled at every time. 

Exactly. 

I was spanked, got the belt or wooden spoon when I focked up real bad. Had my "mouth washed out with soap" on a couple of occasions. 

I would've taken a loud talking to over any of that. 

[RLLD 4,143]

While it sucked when I was a kid, being beaten constantly, I have to admit that when I entered the Marines it helped me considerably..... at that stage....no one...and I mean NO ONE....was going to put a hand on me without repurcussions.....hell, most of the reason I joined was to get the hell out of there....tired of being dirt poor and getting knocked around....

[Hardcore troubadour 14,891]

My Name Is Luka wouldn’t have been a hit if it were just about yelling. 

[BuckSwope 654]

56 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Exactly. 

I was spanked, got the belt or wooden spoon when I focked up real bad. Had my "mouth washed out with soap" on a couple of occasions. 

I would've taken a loud talking to over any of that. 

 My take away from the article and posts like yours is it doesn't have to be a choice.  Both are abuse (or easily can turn into that), and neither have to be done.   Not sure why the choice is yelling or beating, or why in the same thread as these post we get comments like "today's kids are poosies".  

[seafoam1 2,792]

5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

 My take away from the article and posts like yours is it doesn't have to be a choice.  Both are abuse (or easily can turn into that), and neither have to be done.   Not sure why the choice is yelling or beating, or why in the same thread as these post we get comments like "today's kids are poosies".  

Yelling at a kid when they really fock up is not abuse. And today's kids are poosies. They have pansy parents. Fock that. Getting yelled at for something you know you focked up on is part of the way it works. Because if you have no deterrence, then you don't mind focking up again and again. 

I guess we should get rid of the idea of prisons for adults as welll huh? Because throwing someone in a cage is not nice. 

[BuckSwope 654]

Yes, I'm advocating for no prisons and no deterrents at all.    

My kids must be the worst in the school because I've never hit them and rarely raise my voice.  

 

[5-Points 3,372]

28 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

 My take away from the article and posts like yours is it doesn't have to be a choice.  Both are abuse (or easily can turn into that), and neither have to be done.   Not sure why the choice is yelling or beating, or why in the same thread as these post we get comments like "today's kids are poosies".  

 Spanking and/or yelling at your kid is not abuse. 

Beating your kid? Sure. 

There are two kinds of kids that don't get yelled at or spanked. Well behaved kids and future criminals. 

Giving your kid a "time-out" is the equivalent of incarceration. So if you want them to get used to that sort of thing, have at it. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

14 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

 There is a difference between constant berating and verbally abusing children (or anyone) and parenting or coaching which involves raising your voice aka shouting occasionally.  

Verbal abuse is a thing, it’s mentally breaking down a person when done constantly and over time.  The way that article reads doesn’t differentiate the two enough for me. 

This.

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

 Spanking and/or yelling at your kid is not abuse. 

Beating your kid? Sure. 

There are two kinds of kids that don't get yelled at or spanked. Well behaved kids and future criminals. 

Giving your kid a "time-out" is the equivalent of incarceration. So if you want them to get used to that sort of thing, have at it. 

We can disagree on things like spanking, as i dont think people should hit their kids. 

I agree with the sentiment of the thread that constant yelling is different than occasionally having to do so.  Context is everything 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

 

[BuckSwope 654]

Phantom is LC's twin brother?  

[TimHauck 2,587]

On 10/3/2023 at 5:33 PM, Fireballer said:

Yell at them….abuse

Allow removal of pen!s and breasts…endorsed by Federal govt

 

 

JFC why does every thread need to be about trannies to you freaks?

[HellToupee 1,573]

1 hour ago, BuckSwope said:

Phantom is LC's twin brother?  

maybe they’re gender neutral 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,891]

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

JFC why does every thread need to be about trannies to you freaks?

It’s about the abuse of children, which is the subject, you freak. 

[jonmx 2,424]

54 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

JFC why does every thread need to be about trannies to you freaks?

Mutilating children has little to do with trannies.   It a sickness of the adults pushing such madness on unknowing kids.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

JFC why does every thread need to be about trannies to you freaks?

Because they’re freaks. It’s a logical continuation of that QAnon garbage from several years ago  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,891]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Because they’re freaks. It’s a logical continuation of that QAnon garbage from several years ago  

It’s not happening   

[BuckSwope 654]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

maybe they’re gender neutral 

LC being a self hating non-binary person IRL would be one of the least surprising things around here.  

[edjr 6,578]

On 10/3/2023 at 7:43 PM, KSB2424 said:

 There is a difference between constant berating and verbally abusing children (or anyone) and parenting or coaching which involves raising your voice aka shouting occasionally.  

Verbal abuse is a thing, it’s mentally breaking down a person when done constantly and over time.  The way that article reads doesn’t differentiate the two enough for me. 

Bobby Knight disagrees 

[HellToupee 1,573]

33 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

LC being a self hating non-binary person IRL would be one of the least surprising things around here.  

It could happen , just look at tim

[BuckSwope 654]

32 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

It could happen , just look at tim

You and tim should fock and get it over with.   Cute you guys brought your FBGs spat over here though.  

[TheNewGirl 1,336]

Good! 

At lease Bart Simpson will be saved from a troubled adulthood: https://people.com/the-simpsons-homer-promises-not-to-strangle-bart-8391071