posty 2,492 Posted October 4 7 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Yankees win it all God no… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,176 Posted October 4 18 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Mine Tigers Yankees Phillies Dodgers Yankees win it all Cole will have to pull a Herscheiser in my opinion. Very shallow starting pitching and the bullpen isn’t much to be excited about either. Defense ain’t that great either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 I can't believe they are still doing best of 3 for the wildcard round. Imagine having a 162 game regular season only to have your playoffs be determined by a 2 of 3 series possibly with all 3 games on the road. These series should be 3 of 5 with home field advantage to the higher seed of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Cole will have to pull a Herscheiser in my opinion. Very shallow starting pitching and the bullpen isn’t much to be excited about either. Defense ain’t that great either. Which shows why no team won 100 this year. Every team has flaws. I picked the Yanks cause their offense is just so damn good. they can outscore their pitching weaknesses I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I can't believe they are still doing best of 3 for the wildcard round. Imagine having a 162 game regular season only to have your playoffs be determined by a 2 of 3 series possibly with all 3 games on the road. These series should be 3 of 5 with home field advantage to the higher seed of course. All the road teams won in the wild card round with the exception of the Padres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 Just now, supermike80 said: All the road teams won in the wild card round with the exception of the Padres I understand this years outcomes.... but my point still stands. 2 of 3 is silly after such a long season. Now you can theoretically have a really good 3rd division winner or a really good top wildcard lose in such a stupid format. 3 of 5 with home and road games is dramatically different, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,257 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Mine Tigers Yankees Phillies Dodgers Yankees win it all If the Yankees offense gets rolling they can overcome the pitching flaws Tigers/Guardians should be a good series I’d like to see the Mets upset the Phillies but I don’t see the pitching Dodgers/Padres- I can’t believe the Dodgers going out in this round but the Padres seem perfectly built to win it all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 16 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I understand this years outcomes.... but my point still stands. 2 of 3 is silly after such a long season. Now you can theoretically have a really good 3rd division winner or a really good top wildcard lose in such a stupid format. 3 of 5 with home and road games is dramatically different, imo. The games already start in March. Lots of winter weather teams where that's a factor. The world series ends in November...again..Winter cities. If you wanna stretch the playoffs out even more, gotta give something back. reduce the number of regular season games, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,176 Posted October 4 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: The games already start in March. Lots of winter weather teams where that's a factor. The world series ends in November...again..Winter cities. If you wanna stretch the playoffs out even more, gotta give something back. reduce the number of regular season games, Yup. Or god forbid, scheduled double headers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,492 Posted October 4 29 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I can't believe they are still doing best of 3 for the wildcard round. Imagine having a 162 game regular season only to have your playoffs be determined by a 2 of 3 series possibly with all 3 games on the road. These series should be 3 of 5 with home field advantage to the higher seed of course. Better than the one-game playoff... You can't do best-of-five for the first round as a potential seven days off for the first two seeds could really be a negative... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: If you wanna stretch the playoffs out even more, gotta give something back. reduce the number of regular season games, And I am all for that. 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,492 Posted October 4 4 minutes ago, supermike80 said: reduce the number of regular season games, Never happen... If they attempt this, the owners will probably want the players to take a pro-rated pay cut since they would only be playing the reduced number of games, not 162 for when they signed their contracts... The MLBPA will push back of course and then there would probably be a strike as the result... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 2 minutes ago, posty said: Better than the one-game playoff... You can't do best-of-five for the first round as a potential seven days off for the first two seeds could really be a negative... at least the one game playoff was only when they introduced the second wildcard and basically it was to determine the true wildcard. I think that was also pretty silly but it was a precursor to what we have now. Once they decided to truly expand the playoffs, they needed to come up with a better format for this first round. If they don't want to reduce regular season games (or have some double headers) then they need to suck it up and deal with cold weather. Why should we worry about potential negatives for the top 2 seeds but not worry about the negatives for the 3 and 4 seeds possibly catching a hot team in a short ass series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 59 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: at least the one game playoff was only when they introduced the second wildcard and basically it was to determine the true wildcard. I think that was also pretty silly but it was a precursor to what we have now. Once they decided to truly expand the playoffs, they needed to come up with a better format for this first round. If they don't want to reduce regular season games (or have some double headers) then they need to suck it up and deal with cold weather. Why should we worry about potential negatives for the top 2 seeds but not worry about the negatives for the 3 and 4 seeds possibly catching a hot team in a short ass series? It's not always about "sucking it up" and dealing with the colder weather. That cold weather includes snow and other things that cause cancelled games. With MLB now pretty much interleague, it is extremely difficult to reschedule a game say between the Yankees and Dodgers. Not to mention, with Posty mentioning the union, you can't just make players "suck it up" and play in brutally cold conditions that can lead to increased injuries and less days off(which are mandated by the players union by the way) The union will push back on that hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 Just now, supermike80 said: It's not always about "sucking it up" and dealing with the colder weather. That cold weather includes snow and other things that cause cancelled games. With MLB now pretty much interleague, it is extremely difficult to reschedule a game say between the Yankees and Dodgers. Not to mention, with Posty mentioning the union, you can't just make players "suck it up" and play in brutally cold conditions that can lead to increased injuries and less days off(which are mandated by the players union by the way) The union will push back on that hard. yeah, i'm not saying there won't be issues and im not pretending to have a perfect solution. I understand there is a players union and that the owners also want certain things. bottom line is a 162 game season should not have a best of 3 first round. It's bush league. Owners should be in favor of the expanded playoffs and more playoff games because it means more potential revenue for their teams if they make it. It also means more teams are alive later in the season which results in more ticket and merchandise sales, even for teams that don't get in.... So if the answer is shortening the season slightly, they should not be looking for players to take pro rated pay cuts, as posty speculated, because those players are able to draw more asses to seats later into the season as it is. We are talking 3 of 5 first round instead of 2/3. MLB made the decision to expand playoffs, it should be done right, imho. You're talking a max of 2 more games, 4 more days with travel before the LDS would begin. I don't personally think that's asking too much without shortening the season, but you could literally cut the season to 160 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,184 Posted October 4 Great game yesterday, although I was pulling for the Brewers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,320 Posted October 4 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Great game yesterday, although I was pulling for the Brewers. hardly newsworthy you were pulling while watching men Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 14 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: yeah, i'm not saying there won't be issues and im not pretending to have a perfect solution. I understand there is a players union and that the owners also want certain things. bottom line is a 162 game season should not have a best of 3 first round. It's bush league. Owners should be in favor of the expanded playoffs and more playoff games because it means more potential revenue for their teams if they make it. It also means more teams are alive later in the season which results in more ticket and merchandise sales, even for teams that don't get in.... So if the answer is shortening the season slightly, they should not be looking for players to take pro rated pay cuts, as posty speculated, because those players are able to draw more asses to seats later into the season as it is. We are talking 3 of 5 first round instead of 2/3. MLB made the decision to expand playoffs, it should be done right, imho. You're talking a max of 2 more games, 4 more days with travel before the LDS would begin. I don't personally think that's asking too much without shortening the season, but you could literally cut the season to 160 games. Meh...I am OK with the setup. Better record team gets all the home games. That's incentive for those that don't lead their division. Like you said, it aint perfect and I don't know what is, but I am cool with this so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 4 I don't mind the new playoff format. If you don't like it, win your division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 Just now, cmh6476 said: If you don't like it, win your division. which means nothing for 2 of the 6 division winners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,184 Posted October 4 8 minutes ago, edjr said: hardly newsworthy you were pulling while watching men Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: at least the one game playoff was only when they introduced the second wildcard and basically it was to determine the true wildcard. I think that was also pretty silly but it was a precursor to what we have now. Once they decided to truly expand the playoffs, they needed to come up with a better format for this first round. If they don't want to reduce regular season games (or have some double headers) then they need to suck it up and deal with cold weather. Why should we worry about potential negatives for the top 2 seeds but not worry about the negatives for the 3 and 4 seeds possibly catching a hot team in a short ass series? You should reward the best teams of the regular season, and that's essentially what they are doing. Top seed gets to rest (which can be a blessing or a curse) and doesn't have to use pitchers like all the other teams do. Then they reward the other two division champs AND top record that's not a division winner with home games, which probably gives a slight advantage and additional revenue to those teams. And the last two still have a decent chance of moving on. The thing that I'm not finding fun is not knowing when your team will play. Trying to make plans Wednesday when I have kids in school, while we likely won't know until the night before when the nl game 3's are decided are a major pain in the ass. And playing all the wild card games during the day, again with very little notice), makes it tough on employees and employers. I was out of town so it didn't impact me much (also have less people to report to and a more flexible schedule) but definitely sucks for hourly associates or those who are on a point system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,485 Posted October 4 8 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: You should reward the best teams of the regular season, and that's essentially what they are doing. Top seed gets to rest (which can be a blessing or a curse) and doesn't have to use pitchers like all the other teams do. Then they reward the other two division champs AND top record that's not a division winner with home games, which probably gives a slight advantage and additional revenue to those teams. And the last two still have a decent chance of moving on. The thing that I'm not finding fun is not knowing when your team will play. Trying to make plans Wednesday when I have kids in school, while we likely won't know until the night before when the nl game 3's are decided are a major pain in the ass. And playing all the wild card games during the day, again with very little notice), makes it tough on employees and employers. I was out of town so it didn't impact me much (also have less people to report to and a more flexible schedule) but definitely sucks for hourly associates or those who are on a point system. i do understand why they have laid it out like they have. they are obviously giving an advantage to the 3rd division winner and top wildcard. I just think in general it is bogus to have such a long regular season grind conclude with such a short playoff series, where those home teams can catch a hot lower seed and have less of a chance to adjust. I suppose for the final 2 wildcard teams, it's all gravy. But for the 3 and 4 seeds, especially the 3 seed, a few years ago they would have had a legit playoff series with home and away games. Im cheering for the Mets (since Tampa didn't make it, of course), so I am not bitching about the format because my team lost or anything... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,600 Posted October 4 20 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: You should reward the best teams of the regular season, and that's essentially what they are doing. Top seed gets to rest (which can be a blessing or a curse) and doesn't have to use pitchers like all the other teams do. Then they reward the other two division champs AND top record that's not a division winner with home games, which probably gives a slight advantage and additional revenue to those teams. And the last two still have a decent chance of moving on. The thing that I'm not finding fun is not knowing when your team will play. Trying to make plans Wednesday when I have kids in school, while we likely won't know until the night before when the nl game 3's are decided are a major pain in the ass. And playing all the wild card games during the day, again with very little notice), makes it tough on employees and employers. I was out of town so it didn't impact me much (also have less people to report to and a more flexible schedule) but definitely sucks for hourly associates or those who are on a point system. Yep...Hate the TBD time crap. And..I think having the bye week can be more a curse than a blessing. At least this year. Tigers are hot...Taking an extended cool off I feel would hurt them TIGERS IN 4!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 4 https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1842326073888899275?t=6lOaVbQHIXPaUWDujySYNw&s=19 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,492 Posted October 4 36 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1842326073888899275?t=6lOaVbQHIXPaUWDujySYNw&s=19 Only because of the Royals opponent… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, posty said: Only because of the Royals opponent… No duh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 5 Long focking day. LFG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,045 Posted October 5 This Mets ride is a good time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 5 Nice getting out of that jam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 5 Playoff baseball is better than football. You can try and change my mind, but there is downtime during any football game. In baseball the entire stadium is glued to every pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 46 Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Reality said: This Mets ride is a good time. Yes it is !!!!! Comeback Kids !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 6 That's afo king gift u b1tches41%@%@% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,193 Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Reality said: This Mets ride is a good time. Poor Phillies. Zach Wheeler pitches 7 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 9 Ks. Bullpen promptly gives up 6 runs and a loss. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 6 This is quite the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 6 All pitchers are getting squeezed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,176 Posted October 6 He was out. Nice job replay guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 921 Posted October 6 It has to be extremely frustrating for all these pitchers to make their pitches, hit the corners and consistently not get the call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,193 Posted October 6 Padres take 5 -3 lead on Dodgers on deep hit to left field by Xander Bogaerts scoring Tatis Jr and Jackson Merrill from first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
