Elitism vs. Populism

[jonmx 2,202]

People don't seem to understand that this election is a battle between Elitism and Populism and so they really don't understand what is at stake in the next election and why this election is the most important election in American history.   First of all, let's clear up with the two terms mean. 

Elitism is not about wealth.  Wealth is a secondary issue and a lot of ordinary people are Eltisits.  Elitism is the ruling of people through unelected and unchecked institutions.   They have power because of their title, and we must trust and obey their authority.  Elitist organizations can be non-government organizations (American Bar Associate, American Medical Association), quasi-government organizations (Federal Reserve), government organization (three-letter Executive Branch organizations), corporations (big tech, media, big Pharma), and international organizations (UN, WTO, World Bank, IPCC).

Populism is about representing the interests of ordinary people.  Generally this means protecting their rights such as free speech, worship, right to petition, self-defense, privacy, unreasonable searches, self-incrimination, jury trial of their peers, property seizures, equal treatment, equal opportunity.  

The United States foundation was to break away from the Elitism which dominated Europe and the rest of the world.  America was not made great because of diversity or even democracy, it was made great because we empowered the individual to succeed and do great at whatever they choose to do and enjoy the rewards of their accomplishments.  

Trump's popularity has absolutely zero to do with fascism or racism or whatever -ism the Elitists try to label it.  Trump's popularity has to do with the ordinary people seeing their rights being squeezed away. Whether it be the Elitist's war of drugs, war on terror, the Red Scare, war on poverty....every single one of our individual rights is under constant assault from the Elitists and most of our rights are hanging on by a thread. 

The 'undesirables' of America are made largely of the rural conservative American families who 'cling to their guns and bible'.  Their trust in every one of those Elitists institutions has gone to zero, and rightfully so. 

Free Speech is history as big tech through AI is cleansing the internet of speech which does not conform to what the institutions deem to be 'the truth'. 

January 6th served to criminalize populist-themed protests as 'insurrection' and a 'war on Democracray.'  Elitist's approved protests can burn down cities, but even the slightest violence by populist protesters is met with iron-fist prosecutions.

The DC court system has become a rubber stamp for all kinds of questionable search warrants for the NSA or FBI.  All financial transactions are freely given by the financial institutions whenever asked for by the government.  Federal criminal trials are often held in DC, which have jury pools almost exclusively made up of government employees or those supportive or dependant upon the elites.  The whole idea that this is a jury of their peers is a cruel joke which gaurentee the conviction of any populist. 

What is happening to self-defense is sickening.  A populist is always prosecuted while anyone that is associated with an elitist cause is always the victim.  It never matters that the elitist side started and escalated the fight, it is always the populist who stands trial.  Thankfully, the Elitists war on guns has seen many defeats, but they are getting more creative and will eventually find success in destroying gun manufacturers asd suppliers as the corruption of the court system gets worse.

This war by the Elitists on individuals has been going on for decades, largely undetected by the masses.  Even in 2016, it just seemed like Trump's talking about the swamp and deep state just seemed like political rhetoric to most, and there was still basic trust in our institutions.  In fact, I believe Trump grossly underestimated the level of corruption that existed.  The last 4 years has opened up a lot of people's eyes as to what is really going on.  

What is in the ballot this next election is not Republican vs. Democrat, fascism vs. democracy, conservstive vs. liberal.  It is not about abortion, education, taxes, economy, racism, or any other single issue.  What is on the ballot is if we are going to restore the government to one which respects the basic rights of individuals or cede our rights to the unelected unchecked authoritarian Elitists.

  

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

BDS.

[jonmx 2,202]

11 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

BDS.

I would call you the most retarded poster in here, but there is quite a bit of competition with a number of mindless leftist bootlickers.  Nothing I said has anything to do with Biden.  FYI, I completely support Biden staying on the ticket as he just an angry old man with no charisma and has lost most of his mental capacity.  Any one the dems put up is nothing but a deep state puppet.  

[IGotWorms 4,028]

Elitism is, of course, offensive and undesirable, as a driving force of society.

But you’re wrong to champion populism instead. That means we’re giving in to our basest instincts. And that’s not good either, whether it comes from the right or the left.

For example, would you want AOC running the show as a liberal populist? Of course not.

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I would call you the most retarded poster in here, but there is quite a bit of competition with a number of mindless leftist bootlickers.  Nothing I said has anything to do with Biden.  FYI, I completely support Biden staying on the ticket as he just an angry old man with no charisma and has lost most of his mental capacity.  Any one the dems put up is nothing but a deep state puppet.  

You're a poopulist.

[Dizkneelande 1,018]

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I would call you the most retarded poster in here, but there is quite a bit of competition with a number of mindless leftist bootlickers.  Nothing I said has anything to do with Biden.  FYI, I completely support Biden staying on the ticket as he just an angry old man with no charisma and has lost most of his mental capacity.  Any one the dems put up is nothing but a deep state puppet.  

Jon they are hunting down the firefighters who boo’d Laticia James in NY and targeting them for “reeducation”: they think they are the good guys but they are nothing more than totalitarian a-holes. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

15 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Jon they are hunting down the firefighters who boo’d Laticia James in NY and targeting them for “reeducation”: they think they are the good guys but they are nothing more than totalitarian a-holes. 

They put a leftard woman they was never a fire fighter in charge of the FDNY. Diversity. 

[MDC 6,761]

I’ve got to hand it to Trump. He came to Washington with a 40-year history of tax evasion, business fraud and stiffing contractors. His businesses hire illegals and manufacture their products in China. His admin was full of ivory tower elites and consistently pro corporate and anti labor. He literally lives in a country club.

And somehow people still think he’s a populist. 100 years ago he’d have been a terrific snake oil salesman or tent revival preacher. Lot of people like being duped. 

[jonmx 2,202]

42 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Jon they are hunting down the firefighters who boo’d Laticia James in NY and targeting them for “reeducation”: they think they are the good guys but they are nothing more than totalitarian a-holes. 

Disgusting.  Used to be the idea of re-education was something associated with Communist or dictators.  Today's leftists love re-education camps.   

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

I’ll take a fake populist over a real globalist any day.  

[jonmx 2,202]

54 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Elitism is, of course, offensive and undesirable, as a driving force of society.

But you’re wrong to champion populism instead. That means we’re giving in to our basest instincts. And that’s not good either, whether it comes from the right or the left.

For example, would you want AOC running the show as a liberal populist? Of course not.

AOC is a communist elitist.  She tries to appeal to the people with promises of free gifts through wealth redistribution.  But she still relies on elitist to decide who deserves what and she has no interest in actually empowering the people.  

[jonmx 2,202]

20 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’ve got to hand it to Trump. He came to Washington with a 40-year history of tax evasion, business fraud and stiffing contractors. His businesses hire illegals and manufacture their products in China. His admin was full of ivory tower elites and consistently pro corporate elite and anti labor. He literally lives in a country club.

And somehow people still think he’s a populist. 100 years ago he’d have been a terrific snake oil salesman or tent revival preacher. Lot of people like being duped. 

Being rich or a swindler has little to do with being an elitist.   There is a reason why all the Elitists are united against in an all out war against Trump.  They fear Trump is going to cut them off at the knees and I hope their fears come true.  There is way too much unchecked corrupt power in the hands of a few

  

[MDC 6,761]

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Being rich or a swindler has little to do with being an elitist.   There is a reason why all the Elitists are united against in an all out war against Trump.  They fear Trump is going to cut them off at the knees and I hope their fears come true.  There is way too much unchecked corrupt power in the hands of a few

  

Some elites dislike Trump because he’s a disgusting vulgarian and it is sort of funny watching him tick them off like Rodney Dangerfield at Bushwood.  

But all of them are happy to have Don play the clown while he gives them exactly the pro rich, pro corporate, anti labor policies they wanted. And he did it while convincing morons that he’s a “populist.” lol

[jonmx 2,202]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

Some elites dislike Trump because he’s a disgusting vulgarian and it is sort of funny watching him tick them off like Rodney Dangerfield at Bushwood.  

But all of them are happy to have Don play the clown while he gives them exactly the pro rich, pro corporate, anti labor policies they wanted. And he did it while convincing morons that he’s a “populist.” lol

Serious, I don't even think you are this dumb.  I tried to explain it in very simple terms, but you don't get it.  It is not about money.  It is about unelected elitist institutions which run this country and are enslaving the people by taking away all their rights.

[Ron_Artest 767]

Thinks trump is a populist.

Trump only cares about himself and his family.

He's an elitist billionaire using uneducated working class morons to give him money and power.

[MDC 6,761]

22 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Serious, I don't even think you are this dumb.  I tried to explain it in very simple terms, but you don't get it.  It is not about money.  It is about unelected elitist institutions which run this country and are enslaving the people by taking away all their rights.

For the vast majority of normal working Americans it’s about jobs, healthcare, education, affordable housing etc. Obviously Don is the candidate for people who think they’re being enslaved. He’s a career victim and you’re his willing dupe. 

[zsasz 342]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Being rich or a swindler has little to do with being an elitist.   There is a reason why all the Elitists are united against in an all out war against Trump.  They fear Trump is going to cut them off at the knees and I hope their fears come true.  There is way too much unchecked corrupt power in the hands of a few

  

You're a retard if you think that Trump and his select few aren't going to be the few with unchecked power.  Didn't Trump by his own words say he'd be a dicactor?  

[Voltaire 4,969]

5 minutes ago, zsasz said:

You're a retard if you think that Trump and his select few aren't going to be the few with unchecked power.  Didn't Trump by his own words say he'd be a dicactor?  

On day one, he  intends to sign a large number of executive orders l.

[jonmx 2,202]

7 minutes ago, zsasz said:

You're a retard if you think that Trump and his select few aren't going to be the few with unchecked power.  Didn't Trump by his own words say he'd be a dicactor?  

Ironically, you are the brainwashed retard who gets all the news from the BS the elitist media tells you.  This bootlicking look is not good.  Why to you hate liberty so much?  

[jonmx 2,202]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

For the vast majority of normal working Americans it’s about jobs, healthcare, education, affordable housing etc. Obviously Don is the candidate for people who think they’re being enslaved. He’s a career victim and you’re his willing dupe. 

Says the clueless fuk who has no idea he has been brainwashed.  I trusted these institution most of my life, but they have all have all exposed themselves as the corrupt bastards they are..

[MDC 6,761]

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Says the clueless fuk who has no idea he has been brainwashed.  I trusted these institution most of my life, but they have all have all exposed themselves as the corrupt bastards they are..

This from the guy who thinks Trump is a populist fighting for the little guy.  

[weepaws 3,009]

Wow, nice job OP. 

All Government, and All elected officials promise populism, all Governments and elected officials end up delivering elitism.  Both trump and biden will promise anything to win , but will deliver nothing at the end.  

Do not trust in man, put all your trust in the Lord. 

Jeremiah 17:5.  Thus said the Lord.  Cursed be the man that trust in man, and make flesh his arm, and who’s heart depart from the Lord. 

Psalm 118:8.  It is better to Trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.  Amen. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Some elites dislike Trump because he’s a disgusting vulgarian and it is sort of funny watching him tick them off like Rodney Dangerfield at Bushwood.  

But all of them are happy to have Don play the clown while he gives them exactly the pro rich, pro corporate, anti labor policies they wanted. And he did it while convincing morons that he’s a “populist.” lol

That’s the best post of your existence.  The first half anyway. Congrats. Took long enough. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Thinks trump is a populist.

Trump only cares about himself and his family.

He's an elitist billionaire using uneducated working class morons to give him money and power.

And then theres this moron. 

[weepaws 3,009]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And then theres this moron. 

Then there is you.  Moron.  

[jonmx 2,202]

34 minutes ago, MDC said:

This from the guy who thinks Trump is a populist fighting for the little guy.  

A lot of black folk are seeing Trump being persecuted in these trials over nothing and are identifying with him.  

[jonmx 2,202]

29 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Wow, nice job OP. 

All Government, and All elected officials promise populism, all Governments and elected officials end up delivering elitism.  Both trump and biden will promise anything to win , but will deliver nothing at the end.  

Do not trust in man, put all your trust in the Lord. 

Jeremiah 17:5.  Thus said the Lord.  Cursed be the man that trust in man, and make flesh his arm, and who’s heart depart from the Lord. 

Psalm 118:8.  It is better to Trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.  Amen. 

Not a single elitist shares your views.  Every one of them is absolutely terrified of what Trump is planning on doing.  

[MDC 6,761]

9 minutes ago, jonmx said:

A lot of black folk are seeing Trump being persecuted in these trials over nothing and are identifying with him.  

Two things can be true. Establishment politicians can be after Trump for the wrong reasons, and he can be a grifter fraud who’s only in it for the $ and his massive ego.  

[Dizkneelande 1,018]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Says the clueless fuk who has no idea he has been brainwashed.  I trusted these institution most of my life, but they have all have all exposed themselves as the corrupt bastards they are..

Read the Solomon Asch Conformity Line Experiment Study. They found that people were willing to ignore reality and give incorrect answers in order to conform to the group. 

https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html

The elitist uses Government, Media/Social Media, Big Tech, Education, Employers/Human Resources, & the Entertainment Industry to promote propaganda and further their agenda and these people eat it up. 

[Ron_Artest 767]

23 minutes ago, jonmx said:

A lot of black folk are seeing Trump being persecuted in these trials over nothing and are identifying with him.  

Racist

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

I’ll admit that Trump hasn’t been the great champion of the working class. But he’s never done anything to harm them like Biden has. 

[weepaws 3,009]

35 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Not a single elitist shares your views.  Every one of them is absolutely terrified of what Trump is planning on doing.  

Of course they are terrified, like others being righteously terrified of biden.   Everyone in government wants to destroy this country their own way, it’s called pride.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

3 hours ago, jonmx said:

Ironically, you are the brainwashed retard who gets all the news from the BS the elitist media tells you.  This bootlicking look is not good.  Why to you hate liberty so much?  

You only created this thread so you'd have a fresh platform for childish insults and name-calling.

What an angry dooshpotato. You must be insufferable at home.

[jonmx 2,202]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

Read the Solomon Asch Conformity Line Experiment Study. They found that people were willing to ignore reality and give incorrect answers in order to conform to the group. 

https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html

The elitist uses Government, Media/Social Media, Big Tech, Education, Employers/Human Resources, & the Entertainment Industry to promote propaganda and further their agenda and these people eat it up. 

This is why people like Tim love to follow what the experts say.   If for instance 1200 experts sign some statement, most leftists eat that up as rock solid proof that the statement is absolutely correct.  It is really mostly a leftie thing to be completely convinced by the so-called experts.  

[jonmx 2,202]

7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You only created this thread so you'd have a fresh platform for childish insults and name-calling.

What an angry dooshpotato. You must be insufferable at home.

I came in and made a post completely void of any insults.  It was you who instead of replying with an intelligent response, came in with the a-whole insult response.

[Pimpadeaux 2,403]

4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I came in and made a post completely void of any insults.  It was you who instead of replying with an intelligent response, came in with the a-whole insult response.

Your responses to others trying to have a reasonable discussion are rife with childish insults and name-calling, just as I suspected they would be. 

Your first post was just bait to get others to respond so you could exercise the doosh-potato manifestations of your raging insecuries and miserable homelife for which you only have yourself to blame.

Oh, and BDS.

Have a great evening!

[IGotWorms 4,028]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll admit that Trump hasn’t been the great champion of the working class. But he’s never done anything to harm them like Biden has. 

Tax cuts for the Uber rich and corporations hurts the working class, by shifting a greater percentage of the tax burden to them and mortgaging the future

[Ron_Artest 767]

19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Tax cuts for the Uber rich and corporations hurts the working class, by shifting a greater percentage of the tax burden to them and mortgaging the future

He also kick started inflation with trillions in covid giveaways which has hurt the little guy.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

26 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Tax cuts for the Uber rich and corporations hurts the working class, by shifting a greater percentage of the tax burden to them and mortgaging the future

I got a tax cut too. And the Trump  tax cuts resulted in greater tax  revenue to the government, not less. Look it up. But Biden in his political career has been a lackey for the banks and corporations from the beginning. 

[Ron_Artest 767]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I got a tax cut too. And the Trump  tax cuts resulted in greater tax  revenue to the government, not less. Look it up. But Biden in his political career has been a lackey for the banks and corporations from the beginning. 

When are you gonna wise up bud?  You will believe anything trump tells you, all the lies.

This lie is easy to prove. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3-myths-about-the-trump-tax-cuts-155801290.html

You're a mark, a patsy, a useful idiot.