HellToupee 2,011 Posted August 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1824248058231865490 BREAKING: New polling shows Kamala Harris demolishing Donald Trump 77-13 among Black voters. This is huge. The polls are like the media working hand in hand with the democrat party  you should be voting for Donald , he doesnât want to tax your social security Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,011 Posted August 16, 2024 46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: They wouldnât qualify. To qualify for the program you have to have two years of rent payments without missing one in your own name. But that in itself doesnât qualify you to buy a new house. Your fears are misguided. Either no one will qualify and itâs just out there to give false hope and get votes or there will be âspecial programsâ where everyone will qualify that they want to qualify Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,441 Posted August 16, 2024 10 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1824248058231865490 BREAKING: New polling shows Kamala Harris demolishing Donald Trump 77-13 among Black voters. This is huge. wow, shes even lower than Biden was, and you are still a total idiot Trump got 8-10% in 2020 Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,011 Posted August 16, 2024 Kamala is the WEF candidate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You donât know anybody that the only thing holding them back is a down payment. Not one person. Tons my ass. OMG. OK whatever you say buddy. I donât want to interfere with your fantasy world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 415 Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If youâre qualified then why do you need 25k? Just stop Tim. Itâs a horrible idea and itâs completely dishonest. Itâs never happening. If it could, it would have already. What could possibly go wrong? Surely not more inflation.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 38 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: What could possibly go wrong? Surely not more inflation.  I donât think.so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 415 Posted August 16, 2024 36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I donât think.so. You and I were taught and have perhaps experienced very different economics lessons. $25K by it's very design is to increase demand, in a vacuum that increases prices. There is no offset to this plan that I've seen. If it doesn't have some kind of other demand dampening effect, then it's going to take a housing recession to not be so. However, no matter the economic climate, prices especially in starter homes will be higher than they would be otherwise if it comes to pass. I'm as sure of that economic reality as I am that the sun is going to come up in the morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,420 Posted August 16, 2024 Â Listen and learn. One of his best policy speeches and pointing out Kamala's poor policy plans. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 36 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: You and I were taught and have perhaps experienced very different economics lessons. $25K by it's very design is to increase demand, in a vacuum that increases prices. There is no offset to this plan that I've seen. If it doesn't have some kind of other demand dampening effect, then it's going to take a housing recession to not be so. However, no matter the economic climate, prices especially in starter homes will be higher than they would be otherwise if it comes to pass. I'm as sure of that economic reality as I am that the sun is going to come up in the morning. We will see. Your principles are correct theoretically but we donât live in a theoretical world. There are so many other factors at play, so much government involvement already, that I donât think inflation is affected that much. In any case as I keep pointing out our inflationary problems are global so there is very little we can do to affect them for good or ill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:  Listen and learn. One of his best policy speeches and pointing out Kamala's poor policy plans. To call that rambling mess a âpolicy speechâ is Orwellian. To call it âbestâ implying that itâs somehow good is beyond comprehension to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted August 16, 2024 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Why will every liberal proposal for the last 80 years crash the economy? Obamacare was supposed to crash the economy too. It gets tiresome after a while. You know what WILL crash the economy? Trumpâs tariffs. Harris is genuinely no one's choice. She was never even popular in CA. It's bonkers. The buzz for her is entirely manufactured. What's alarming about her is that she has ideological affinity for Marxism. The WEF elite are gunning for a global technocratic fascist oligarchy, and they use Marxist appeals as a Trojan horse. I'm honestly not even sure if Trump isn't also a tool to transition the world to where they want. But it is pretty clear Biden was a puppet. And ideologically it looks like Harris will be a very willing puppet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, naomi said: Harris is genuinely no one's choice. She was never even popular in CA. It's bonkers. The buzz for her is entirely manufactured. What's alarming about her is that she has ideological affinity for Marxism. The WEF elite are gunning for a global technocratic fascist oligarchy, and they use Marxist appeals as a Trojan horse. I'm honestly not even sure if Trump isn't also a tool to transition the world to where they want. But it is pretty clear Biden was a puppet. And ideologically it looks like Harris will be a very willing puppet. Everything you wrote here is wrong, IMO. Kamala Harris is a liberal. She is far removed from a Marxist. Her popularity is not manufactured at all. We are not heading for socialism.  Kamala is in the tradition of liberals like FDR and LBJ- they mean to protect capitalism by enlarging its safety net. There is no intent to replace capitalism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, naomi said:  The WEF elite are gunning for a global technocratic fascist oligarchy, and they use Marxist appeals as a Trojan horse. Also sorry but this part is just conspiratorial hogwash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted August 16, 2024 It's not "conspiratorial" in the least. Follow what governmental policies they push, and what corporate influence they machinate. Then simply ask cui bono? in the dust of their controlled demolition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, naomi said: It's not "conspiratorial" in the least. Follow what governmental policies they push, and what corporate influence they machinate. Then simply ask cui bono? in the dust of their controlled demolition. Well your second question is evidence of a conspiratorial mind, no offense. The truth is in some ways far scarier: there is no plan, no scheme, no design. Most of what happens, for good or ill, is the result of chaos, screwups, and blind luck. And those who benefit do so because they just happen to be lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted August 16, 2024 You realize conspiring is a reality of the human condition? Especially the intelligent, wealthy, and sociopathic (~4% of the population) human condition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted August 16, 2024 And I'll give you that quote you shared on most of what happens. Most of us are simple. But sometimes it's the quality of the relatively infrequent that has a profound impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,120 Posted August 16, 2024 6 hours ago, Mark Davis said: You and I were taught and have perhaps experienced very different economics lessons. $25K by it's very design is to increase demand, in a vacuum that increases prices. There is no offset to this plan that I've seen. If it doesn't have some kind of other demand dampening effect, then it's going to take a housing recession to not be so. However, no matter the economic climate, prices especially in starter homes will be higher than they would be otherwise if it comes to pass. I'm as sure of that economic reality as I am that the sun is going to come up in the morning. If five people are bidding on a house, and each of them receives an extra $25,000 to tack on to their offer, four people walk away without a house and one pays a higher price than if youâd given none of them any money. Unserious policy. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 580 Posted August 16, 2024 I wonder how many lefties are gonna jerk off on that picture on the right. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,291 Posted August 16, 2024 25 minutes ago, Kopy said: I wonder how many lefties are gonna jerk off on that picture on the right.  All of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 377 Posted August 16, 2024 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Everything you wrote here is wrong, IMO. Kamala Harris is a liberal. She is far removed from a Marxist. Her popularity is not manufactured at all. We are not heading for socialism.  Kamala is in the tradition of liberals like FDR and LBJ- they mean to protect capitalism by enlarging its safety net. There is no intent to replace capitalism. Well said. It's like these guys have never studied history.  As a Centrist, we monitor both sides to make sure they don't get to extreme. Relative to the past century, this current Left is almost a toothless guard dog; they bark for tried and true(and occassionaly extreme) political ideology.....but they never seek to implement it. Most of my fellow Centrists realize that the current Right, particularly under Trump; is much closer to the extremes of the Right.   If these guys actually got away from the choice of media/news that always preaches "OmG!!!!1!....ThE DEmZ ArE ComMMuNISts!!11!" and actually tried some critical thinking for themselves....they'd quickly realize that.  3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,664 Posted August 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, Reality said: Great ad. Â Itâs global inflation, so weâre all good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,730 Posted August 16, 2024 35 minutes ago, zsasz said: Well said. It's like these guys have never studied history.  As a Centrist, we monitor both sides to make sure they don't get to extreme. Relative to the past century, this current Left is almost a toothless guard dog; they bark for tried and true(and occassionaly extreme) political ideology.....but they never seek to implement it. Most of my fellow Centrists realize that the current Right, particularly under Trump; is much closer to the extremes of the Right.   If these guys actually got away from the choice of media/news that always preaches "OmG!!!!1!....ThE DEmZ ArE ComMMuNISts!!11!" and actually tried some critical thinking for themselves....they'd quickly realize that.  Yeah. Providing sanctuary so minors can be mutilated isnât extreme. Pretty normal stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,730 Posted August 16, 2024 10 minutes ago, Reality said: Great ad.  Wow. That needs to go national. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,664 Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: If five people are bidding on a house, and each of them receives an extra $25,000 to tack on to their offer, four people walk away without a house and one pays a higher price than if youâd given none of them any money. Unserious policy. Yeah all of a sudden lots of people have 25k to put down and the prices donât rise?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,851 Posted August 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Yeah all of a sudden lots of people have 25k to put down and the prices donât rise?  Anyone with an elementary understanding of economics knows what will happen if this proposal becomes reality. But Tim has to support any "policy" Kamalatoe pushes regardless of it's merit so he will contort basic economic principles to do so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,403 Posted August 16, 2024 8 hours ago, Gepetto said: Â Listen and learn. One of his best policy speeches and pointing out Kamala's poor policy plans. Unwatchable. Filled with complete BS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: Anyone with an elementary understanding of economics knows what will happen if this proposal becomes reality. But Tim has to support any "policy" Kamalatoe pushes regardless of it's merit so he will contort basic economic principles to do so. If your standard is an elementary understanding of economics you pretty much eliminate half the population.....sadly.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,019 Posted August 16, 2024 Trump at his press conference yesterday: Quote  But I really. I have to say, Miriam, I watched Sheldon sitting so proud in the White House when we gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Thatâs the highest award you can get as a civilian. Itâs the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor. But civilian version. Itâs actually much better because everyone gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, thatâs soldiers, theyâre either in very bad shape because theyâve been hit so many times by bullets, or theyâre dead. She gets it, and sheâs (laughs) a healthy, beautiful woman. (APPLAUSE) And theyâre rated equal. But she got the Presidential Medal of Freedom and she got it for herâ. And itâs through committees and everything else. Sheâs done an incredible job on addiction as a doctor and so many other things. And I watched your husband sitting at the White House and he was so proud. Iâve never seen him so proud. He didnât like to show it because he was cool. Right? But he was so proud of you.  I look forward to the MAGA idiots playing "Well ackshaully what he meant was....." because they can't just admit the dude is a mush mouthed loser who says idiotic things because what little is left of their brain would break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,851 Posted August 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: If your standard is an elementary understanding of economics you pretty much eliminate half the population.....sadly....  It shouldn't theoretically eliminate Tim. he supposedly runs a real estate management company. of course when your dad hands it to you and it's fully functional you probably don't really need to know that much about the business to keep it going. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted August 16, 2024 Just now, Strike said:  It shouldn't theoretically eliminate Tim. he supposedly runs a real estate management company. of course when your dad hands it to you and it's fully functional you probably don't really need to know that much about the business to keep it going. Yes, in theory, but it appears to be true that the marxist ideology of economics is what he has been taught, so now he believes the lie and his positions are colored by the lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,965 Posted August 16, 2024 If only we had an example from recent history of helping people to buy houses who couldn't afford to pay their mortgage.  I swear, the epitaph of the Left is 'Next time it will be different$#@!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,371 Posted August 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Trump at his press conference yesterday: I look forward to the MAGA idiots playing "Well ackshaully what he meant was....." because they can't just admit the dude is a mush mouthed loser who says idiotic things because what little is left of their brain would break. His rally speeches have become so incoherent that Fox no longer carries them in their entirety (think about that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,132 Posted August 16, 2024 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yes, in theory, but it appears to be true that the marxist ideology of economics is what he has been taught, so now he believes the lie and his positions are colored by the lie So laughable, you and @Strike. But I will play along. Please explain what specific Marxist ideology I have been taught and believe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,730 Posted August 16, 2024 Canât come up with 25k, but they will be able to pay for the upkeep of a house. Sorry Tim, not everyone is a nepo baby and they donât have to concern themselves with such minor issues like a lawnmower and a washer and dryer. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,019 Posted August 16, 2024 Some of the same people making cases against the housing stuff here were the same ones telling me I was wrong for thinking housing prices were artificially being inflated... amazing how the only thing that changed was an idea by Kamala to get them to my side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites