Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[jerryskids 6,242]

16 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I guess if you’re a my glass is 1/2 empty kinda guy. 

We don’t know yet what she’s proposing. Which is why I was stressing not jumping to conclusions.

 

13 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Of course she could, and I don’t disagree with Tim’s take earlier about politicians not being upfront, but that’s the game these days.

Sorry, but "price control fear mongering" should be the default IMO.

Nothing you said remotely convinces me to object to the above statement.

[TrailGuy 246]

20 minutes ago, Strike said:

Some politicians.  And only because people like you allow it.  Take a stand.  Commit to not voting for someone who won't define their policies. 

What is Trump's policy to lower prices?

[OldMaid 2,125]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

So you didn't read the article either, huh?  Read the first paragraph of this document and tell me whether it says electoral college or popular vote:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ksm9n3qsptqkjd7avr5km/Allan-Lichtman-2016-The-Keys-to-The-White-House-Social-Education-80-5.pdf?rlkey=qdtcni8kxv60qxfz52ewecy1u&e=2&st=27o5ep7i&dl=0

No, I didn’t read it. I wasn’t disputing that it said that, just asking why then doesn’t he claim to have correctly called all 10? It doesn’t make sense to me. 

[Strike 4,869]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

No, I didn’t read it. I wasn’t disputing that it said that, just asking why then doesn’t he claim to have correctly called all 10? It doesn’t make sense to me. 

I don't care enough to figure that out.  But that blog post does a great job of proving that this guy is just a snake oil salesman.  You should delete your original post touting his prediction record. 

[Strike 4,869]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

What is Trump's policy to lower prices?

He's just going to tell large corporations to do it, just like Kamalatoe.  Otherwise they're "gouging." 

[JuneJuly 192]

6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

What is Trump's policy to lower prices?

https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/?_gl=1*wtqa6v*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE3MjU1ODk1MTEuRUFJYUlRb2JDaE1JcXAySDZLR3RpQU1Wb1FXdEJoM1I5aFIxRUFBWUFTQUFFZ0pYMF9EX0J3RQ..*_gcl_au*MjAwMDM1MTI4NC4xNzI1NTg5NTAx&_ga=2.200943527.820546196.1725589502-2081078866.1725589501&_gac=1.250276274.1725589511.EAIaIQobChMIqp2H6KGtiAMVoQWtBh3R9hR1EAAYASAAEgJX0_D_BwE

[OldMaid 2,125]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Sorry, but "price control fear mongering" should be the default IMO.

Nothing you said remotely convinces me to object to the above statement.

Should I fetch you a fainting couch for your hysterics?

J/K I’m willing to cut her a little slack considering she’s running one of the shortest campaigns in history. Plus it’s not like the former guy is explaining all his policies, either. Or even coherently… 

[OldMaid 2,125]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

I don't care enough to figure that out.  But that blog post does a great job of proving that this guy is just a snake oil salesman.  You should delete your original post touting his prediction record. 

 You’re on a roll tonight.

[jerryskids 6,242]

1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

Should I fetch you a fainting couch for your hysterics?

J/K I’m willing to cut her a little slack considering she’s running one of the shortest campaigns in history. Plus it’s not like the former guy is explaining all his policies, either. Or even coherently… 

Sorry but her strategy is to have no actual policies.  Happy happy joy joy!

[Strike 4,869]

2 hours ago, OldMaid said:

 You’re on a roll tonight.

Doesn't take much with some of you.  What's interesting about you libs is you make assertions, as you did, that are false.  And when shown actual proof that they are false your type refuses to admit it, and you rarely if ever provide any supporting evidence to back up your assertion to begin with.  Then you get all condescending and righteous when people such as myself and Jerry offer data and logical reasoning in trying to have an intelligent conversation on the topic.  Such is the geek club, and libs in general in life as well.

[The Psychic Observer 314]

Trump explaining policy.

[Reality 3,055]

On 9/4/2024 at 1:27 PM, The Real timschochet said:

All the lies spread on the conservative side is really getting tiresome. It’s an almost daily chore to try and correct all the misinformation. And people wonder why I depend on the MSM- for all of its flaws, you can’t rely on any other source to tell you what’s actually happening. 

Thoughts?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,284]

8 minutes ago, Reality said:

Thoughts?

 

They like being lied to.  

[purdygood 306]

8 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry but her strategy is to have no actual policies.  Happy happy joy joy!

She really did steal Trump's playbook. 

[Sean Mooney 1,816]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

- I'm not saying you disagree, but taxing the rich never, ever works.  As I've said her a similar 43215 number of times, they have more, smarter, and more financially motivated accountants on staff to make sure they don't.  The onus for paying for these boondoggles always falls back on the middle class.

The reality is- the middle class always pays for everything. Doesn't matter if it's Republicans or Democrats in office- the middle class gets hosed. Their money is either going to people who make more than them or less than them (essentially).

It'd be great if people would wake up to that fact. 

[The Real timschochet 5,398]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Thoughts?

 

Not the same. Politicians are taken out of context all the time. But the right makes up complete falsehoods like the supposed undocumented immigrants who attacked a school bus in San Diego. Be better. 

[edjr 6,384]

 

[Reality 3,055]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not the same. Politicians are taken out of context all the time. But the right makes up complete falsehoods like the supposed undocumented immigrants who attacked a school bus in San Diego. Be better. 

Yeah, I figured. Clown.

[Sean Mooney 1,816]

2 minutes ago, Reality said:

Yeah, I figured. Clown.

No context and an insult.

Typical Reality

[Strike 4,869]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not the same. Politicians are taken out of context all the time. But the right makes up complete falsehoods like the supposed undocumented immigrants who attacked a school bus in San Diego. Be better. 

It wasn't taken out of context.  They purposely only printed part of his comments to make it sound like something entirely different than what he said.  And, not.posted here, then the Kamalatoe campaign ran with it and reposted it.  It's almost like there was coordination between the AP and her campaign to get this out there and then they retract their headline after the damage is done.  AFAIK Kamalatoe has not done the same.

[Mike Honcho 4,794]

14 hours ago, OldMaid said:

We’ll have to see the specifics for sure. I was just sick of seeing all the price control fear mongering that’s been going on. 

My best guess would be to look at Sen Warren’s bill to see what it might look like.

No!!! Comment now, site unseen just based on the (D) or (R)!!!  Have you learned nothing about this place? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,284]

Kamala believes the first amendment is a privilege.  She’s a Lawyer.  

[The Real timschochet 5,398]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

It wasn't taken out of context.  They purposely only printed part of his comments to make it sound like something entirely different than what he said.  And, not.posted here, then the Kamalatoe campaign ran with it and reposted it.  It's almost like there was coordination between the AP and her campaign to get this out there and then they retract their headline after the damage is done.  AFAIK Kamalatoe has not done the same.

Bullsh!t on the coordination and the rest of your post as well. 
PERHAPS the criticism of Vance is unfair. I say perhaps because the fact is the criticism works because conservatives like Vance constantly refuse to address the root cause of these mass shootings which is, in the opinion both of liberals and the vast majority of the public, that  we don’t have enough reasonable federal gun laws. Conservatives go out of their way to avoid discussing it. 

[TrailGuy 246]

The irony is that security couldn't have done anything here.  The kid was a student, brought the gun, went to class, then left to retrieve the gun from his locker, and started shooting.  This wasn't a uvalde where the shooter broke in.

You can play the context semantics debate all you want, when you talk about school shootings in any way as a fact of life, you come off as callous and cold hearted, and chose your words poorly.  Same way Donald Trump said about school shootings, "You just have to get over it".

They don't want to address the problem.

[Engorgeous George 1,850]

19 hours ago, OldMaid said:

They cropped out her face in all the photos.

Maybe they did not have the expertise to superimpose a bag over her head.  

[TrailGuy 246]

On the heels of Trump embarrassing himself in front of the Economic Club of NY, 88 Corporate execs have endorsed Kamala Harris.

It's become increasing clear that the dementia riddled 80 year old low IQ candidate is not the right choice.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,284]

Libtards try and tell us the AP is an unbiased news source.  

[MDC 6,822]

19 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

On the heels of Trump embarrassing himself in front of the Economic Club of NY, 88 Corporate execs have endorsed Kamala Harris.

It's become increasing clear that the dementia riddled 80 year old low IQ candidate is not the right choice.

At least he didn’t get booed off the stage like that weirdo JD.

[The Real timschochet 5,398]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards try and tell us the AP is an unbiased news source.  

No, normal people tell you that. 

[The Real timschochet 5,398]

21 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

 88 Corporate execs have endorsed Kamala 

But I thought she was a socialist! How can this be? 

[MDC 6,822]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

But I thought she was a socialist! How can this be? 

Like Obama and many Democrats before her, Kamala is a radical Marxist AND a corporate shill.

[jerryskids 6,242]

14 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Putting aside the first two points (we’ve discussed them ad naseum) I agree in principle with your third point. And yet- under Democratic administrations when the taxes on the wealthy have been significantly higher, the economy has tended to do better and grow faster. Thats been pretty consistently true for the last 50 years and it gives me pause. How about you? 

Well, 50 years would include Carter and Reagan.  Clinton was pretty centrist and worked well with Newt.  Economy seemed pretty great under Trump until Covid.

I'd need to see how you define "better" and "faster," and how it correlates to higher taxes.  Also, what taxes:  corporate, income, sales?

[jonmx 2,251]

The only time where tax increases did not pull down the government was a modest tax increase under Clinton which raised taxes from 33 to 39 percent on the upper middle class wage earners.  But that was in the mist of an already strong economy.   Massive tax cuts which significantly lowered the top marginal rates were done by both Kennedy and Reagan and in both cases lead to a generation of economic growth.  

The other tax code legislation have been minor tinkering with the tax codes in most cases were temporary tax cuts to provide economic stimulus.  The historical evidence suggest any tax rate over 40 percent tends to pull the economy down.  

[OldMaid 2,125]

10 hours ago, Strike said:

Doesn't take much with some of you.  What's interesting about you libs is you make assertions, as you did, that are false.  And when shown actual proof that they are false your type refuses to admit it, and you rarely if ever provide any supporting evidence to back up your assertion to begin with.  Then you get all condescending and righteous when people such as myself and Jerry offer data and logical reasoning in trying to have an intelligent conversation on the topic.  Such is the geek club, and libs in general in life as well.

WTF are you babbling about here?   What exactly did I refuse to admit? That Lichtman changed his prediction model from the popular vote to the electoral college? I admit that. That still doesn’t make him a snake oil salesman or that his track record isn’t impressive. That’s just your own opinion. And you demanding that I delete my post was absolutely not worth more than a

Maybe if you think on it hard enough you could come up with a logical reason why he changed his model prediction. You know-like maybe the fact that Presidents winning the electoral college but not the popular vote were outliers until recently.

[OldMaid 2,125]

11 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry but her strategy is to have no actual policies.  Happy happy joy joy!

Why do you hate joy?  

Honestly, I think a lot of people are sick and tired of the doom and gloom/everything’s going to hell politics of the last 10yrs. She might win on joy alone.

[Strike 4,869]

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/06/kamala-harris-interviews-election-scrutiny

[MDC 6,822]

5 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Why do you hate joy?  

Honestly, I think a lot of people are sick and tired of the doom and gloom/everything’s going to hell politics of the last 10yrs. She might win on joy alone.

You don’t enjoy hearing a fat old billionaire describe our country as a dystopian hellscape? 

[Strike 4,869]

7 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

WTF are you babbling about here?   What exactly did I refuse to admit? That Lichtman changed his prediction model from the popular vote to the electoral college? I admit that. That still doesn’t make him a snake oil salesman or that his track record isn’t impressive. That’s just your own opinion. And you demanding that I delete my post was absolutely not worth more than a

Maybe if you think on it hard enough you could come up with a logical reason why he changed his model prediction. You know-like maybe the fact that Presidents winning the electoral college but not the popular vote were outliers until recently.

The article I linked covered a number of reasons he's a snake oil salesmen   Not my fault you chose not to read it.  Maybe if it had more pictures you might have been more inclined to educate yourself.   Another trait I've noticed of libs is their embrace of being ignorant of the topics they discuss.  Makes no sense to me but is very common in my experience.

[MDC 6,822]

MAGAs got a problem with snake oil now?  

[OldMaid 2,125]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

The article I linked covered a number of reasons he's a snake oil salesmen   Not my fault you chose not to read it.  Maybe if it had more pictures you might have been more inclined to educate yourself.   Another trait I've noticed of libs is their embrace of being ignorant of the topics they discuss.  Makes no sense to me but is very common in my experience.

 I actually did go back and read it after you gave me about it and also an entire Wikipedia article, too. My opinion did not change. I’m not sure why you’re so insistent that I agree with your stance. 

But hey, thanks for calling me ignorant. I appreciate it!