jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 14 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: 110% voting! You got me, only up to 87%, officially: https://phillyvotes-historical-results.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Thoughts on the rest of my post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 14 16 minutes ago, purdygood said: Again, I'm 43 years old. Have voted in every election since i turned 18. Never been polled once. I don't Trust a poll regardless of "methodology". Awesome. Just say that instead of asking dumb questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,498 Posted October 14 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You got me, only up to 87%, officially: https://phillyvotes-historical-results.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Thoughts on the rest of my post? Voting in PA made accommodations due to Covid…like that are doing in NC this election due to the disaster that hit areas of the state. I don’t have an issue with this. The rest of your commentary we will see. I do think the election comes down to PA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 306 Posted October 14 6 minutes ago, Horseman said: Awesome. Just say that instead of asking dumb questions. You're one of the lonely old people who answer cold calls on your land line aren't you? Sorry to hurt your feelings with a dumb question. Matlock will be on soon. If your "Grandson" calls needing money wired. Just hang up. (I'm just teasin you dude. The only Poll I Trust is an actual election. I understand methodology. But none are perfect. Clearly) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 14 1 minute ago, purdygood said: You're one of the lonely old people who answer cold calls on your land line aren't you? Sorry to hurt your feelings with a dumb question. Matlock will be on soon. If your "Grandson" calls needing money wired. Just hang up. Each post just gets dumber and dumber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 14 29 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'll say again: a state that was so close 4 years that they needed 110% of wards in Philly voting for Biden, and higher courts allowing them to violate their constitution to allow undated and late votes, is not going to elect a candidate who has openly opposed fracking until it was politically bad, and who comes from the administration responsible for the current economy. It just makes no sense. I'm sure my Lefties will have an opposing argument, tho. It’s not that hard to refute you, to be honest. Pennsylvania just elected a Democratic governor and Senator, both of whom have similar stances to fracking that Kamala has (was against it now for it) and both of whom have way more influence in terms of stopping or slowing down fracking if they wanted to than the President would. There are about a zillion good reasons to vote for Harris over Trump and economic issues are one of them. And she’s ahead in Pennsylvania. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted October 14 The crowd chants F Joe Biden as Barry gives a speech. This race looks REALLY close https://x.com/arva61138/status/1845629871059525967?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 14 11 minutes ago, purdygood said: You're one of the lonely old people who answer cold calls on your land line aren't you? Sorry to hurt your feelings with a dumb question. Matlock will be on soon. If your "Grandson" calls needing money wired. Just hang up. (I'm just teasin you dude. The only Poll I Trust is an actual election. I understand methodology. But none are perfect. Clearly) Horseman was the guy who argued that if someone knocks on your door, or rings the bell, you absolutely have to answer it. You can't just ignore it even if it is like a Jehovah's Witness or something like that. Dude is lonely for companionship as the fake life he has created on this board isn't doing it for him. He is 100% the person who answers a phone call from a pollster and talks to them for an hour or so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted October 14 20 minutes ago, Reality said: Clinton earlier and now Walz... Oh boy. It's an objective train wreck. Dems are grasping at straws every day. If you wrote a fictional story about this implosion, people would put the book down from the absurdity. If you are a liberal, take an honest look at who your candidate is, and how the party is handling this race. It's so ridiculous and Kamala is such a poor candidate, that they can't stop themselves from telling the truth. Normally politicians are good liars, but even Kamala makes their normal job of lying very difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 14 6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: The crowd chants F Joe Biden as Barry gives a speech. This race looks REALLY close https://x.com/arva61138/status/1845629871059525967?s=19 Video is 2 years old and is altered https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-crowd-chant-f-joe-biden-barack-obama-michigan-speech-1755727 https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-obama-biden-chant-260485740983 FOX News story on the event from October of 2022: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-interrupted-protester-michigan-rally-come-on I assume HT and Reality will be here to scold you shortly for believing a fake news story. It's all they have 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Horseman said: Thanks to the Amish, like I’ve been telling all of you. They’re pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,883 Posted October 14 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thanks to the Amish, like I’ve been telling all of you. They’re pissed. Trump has been doing great campaigning, but he didn't have to work that hard. Just let the party face plant. This is what they get when they put up Hillary, a horribly unlikeable person and criminal. Joe Biden with major cognitive issues, and them Kamala the dumbest candidate to ever grace the stage. The dems had a lot of people fooled if they just had a decent candidate. The liberal posters on here should be sick that this is how their party ran the campaign. They should vote Trump based on principle at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 14 15 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Voting in PA made accommodations due to Covid…like that are doing in NC this election due to the disaster that hit areas of the state. I don’t have an issue with this. The rest of your commentary we will see. I do think the election comes down to PA. Accommodations... because Covid prevented people from dating ballots, or sending them in on time? Regardless, I agree that it is actually a potential issue for areas affected by Helene in particular. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 14 Just some food for thought to the overreliance on polls- 2016 was notable for how underrepresented the Trump voter was...2020 the Democrats were even further ahead and won. Based on polling if Kamala opened up a 4 point national lead on Trump then the Harris team could feel good about winning. 2022 there is a narrative that Democrat voters were underrepresented but that really isn't that true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 14 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not that hard to refute you, to be honest. Pennsylvania just elected a Democratic governor and Senator, both of whom have similar stances to fracking that Kamala has (was against it now for it) and both of whom have way more influence in terms of stopping or slowing down fracking if they wanted to than the President would. There are about a zillion good reasons to vote for Harris over Trump and economic issues are one of them. And she’s ahead in Pennsylvania. Sure, the local politicians support fracking. I don't get your argument that any PA politician would stop fracking in the state. That would be the feds if anyone, hence my statement about the risk of Kamala. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,498 Posted October 14 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Accommodations... because Covid prevented people from dating ballots, or sending them in on time? Regardless, I agree that it is actually a potential issue for areas affected by Helene in particular. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Yes. I believe that was the case. I typically want voting to be made easier and more accessible for all voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 14 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Sure, the local politicians support fracking. I don't get your argument that any PA politician would stop fracking in the state. That would be the feds if anyone, hence my statement about the risk of Kamala. The senators decide funding and the governor has power too. My point is that Pennsylvania won’t be decided on the fracking issue. You make it sound like it’s completely unreasonable for anyone in that state (or anywhere else to support Harris.) IMO she’s the only choice a reasonable person could make. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 24 Posted October 14 8 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Sure, the local politicians support fracking. I don't get your argument that any PA politician would stop fracking in the state. That would be the feds if anyone, hence my statement about the risk of Kamala. One of the problems facing gas production in PA is the lack of FERC controlled interstate pipeline expansion needed to get gas to markets, especially in the northeast. That can be correct at the federal level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 306 Posted October 14 33 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Horseman was the guy who argued that if someone knocks on your door, or rings the bell, you absolutely have to answer it. You can't just ignore it even if it is like a Jehovah's Witness or something like that. Dude is lonely for companionship as the fake life he has created on this board isn't doing it for him. He is 100% the person who answers a phone call from a pollster and talks to them for an hour or so. I didn't know this. I guess (if true) my joke turned out to be reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 14 On 10/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, The Real timschochet said: @Jon_mx has asserted several times that 25% of African American voters support Donald Trump, but has never provided evidence, The most recent polling I’ve been able to find on this is about a month old- it shows that around 12% of likely black voters in the swing states support Trump, while 82% back Harris: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna171467 LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 15 38 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Horseman was the guy who argued that if someone knocks on your door, or rings the bell, you absolutely have to answer it. You can't just ignore it even if it is like a Jehovah's Witness or something like that. Dude is lonely for companionship as the fake life he has created on this board isn't doing it for him. He is 100% the person who answers a phone call from a pollster and talks to them for an hour or so. Something like that? I mean try to sound certain if you're just going to make things up tard. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 15 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The senators decide funding and the governor has power too. My point is that Pennsylvania won’t be decided on the fracking issue. You make it sound like it’s completely unreasonable for anyone in that state (or anywhere else to support Harris.) IMO she’s the only choice a reasonable person could make. No, my point is that the state was razor close in 2020, and the fracking issue doesn't help. You've made absolutely no case why PA would go from 2020, with Biden from Scranton and decades of history supporting unions and the state in general, to the same or more votes for Kamala and her historic opposition to fracking. Put another way: why would a PA voter vote for Kamala now that didn't vote for Biden in 2020? 25 minutes ago, blick said: One of the problems facing gas production in PA is the lack of FERC controlled interstate pipeline expansion needed to get gas to markets, especially in the northeast. That can be correct at the federal level. This seems like a valid concern regarding the federal control of natural gas business for PA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Put another way: why would a PA voter vote for Kamala now that didn't vote for Biden in 2020? 1. Jan 6 2. Trump’s tariffs proposals 3. Abortion 4. Ukraine 5. Trumps threat to use the military against domestic enemies. 6. Virtually the entire group of people around Trump the last time, now saying he is too incompetent and dangerous to be trusted with the Presidency again. I can think of lots of other reasons. These will do for now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 15 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, my point is that the state was razor close in 2020, and the fracking issue doesn't help. You've made absolutely no case why PA would go from 2020, with Biden from Scranton and decades of history supporting unions and the state in general, to the same or more votes for Kamala and her historic opposition to fracking. Put another way: why would a PA voter vote for Kamala now that didn't vote for Biden in 2020? This seems like a valid concern regarding the federal control of natural gas business for PA. The state support for fracking is kind of split- something like 48-44% in favor as to being opposed. It's also fair to point out that most of the fracking in PA takes place on private land and the president can't ban fracking there. Also this: Quote The drilling industry now directly employs about 12,000 people in Pennsylvania. That’s down from 17,000 in 2019. Its main trade group, the Marcellus Shale Coalition, says the amount of money gas companies pump into the state’s economy will support another 120,000 jobs. That’s a lot of jobs. But the state has nearly 13 million people and workforce of more than 6 million. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,330 Posted October 15 Idiots like tim showshit actually believe this blowjob hag's lies. https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1845982817831829618 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,162 Posted October 15 Again, I cannot stress enough how little support I see for Harris in Michigan on the ground. I feel like the democrats think they have a chance when they probably do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 15 I'm not sure who else lives in battleground states but for those that do- are you seeing billboards and stuff out and about for Trump/Kennedy: Make America Healthy Again? I guess they are trying to drive home that RFK Jr is on Trump's team but it really downplays Vance as he isn't mentioned on the board and it looks like RFK is the VP candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,423 Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I'm not sure who else lives in battleground states but for those that do- are you seeing billboards and stuff out and about for Trump/Kennedy: Make America Healthy Again? I guess they are trying to drive home that RFK Jr is on Trump's team but it really downplays Vance as he isn't mentioned on the board and it looks like RFK is the VP candidate. Thanks for finding this out! Now I'm not voting for Trump. I'm outraged! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 15 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 1. Jan 6 2. Trump’s tariffs proposals 3. Abortion 4. Ukraine 5. Trumps threat to use the military against domestic enemies. 6. Virtually the entire group of people around Trump the last time, now saying he is too incompetent and dangerous to be trusted with the Presidency again. I can think of lots of other reasons. These will do for now. Thanks. I can quibble with each of these, including your #5 which is mind-numbingly dumb, but in the end it is about perception, so I can see how most of these could move the needle a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. I can quibble with each of these, including your #5 which is mind-numbingly dumb, but in the end it is about perception, so I can see how most of these could move the needle a little. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4931778-donald-trump-national-guard-military-enemy-from-within/amp/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,423 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. I can quibble with each of these, including your #5 which is mind-numbingly dumb, but in the end it is about perception, so I can see how most of these could move the needle a little. Considering the left has been using the DOJ and other agencies to go after domestic enemies, I find his "concern" laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 200 Posted October 15 The funniest part about this thread is Tim's continued schtick that Harris is leading in Pennsylvania. We'll done Tim. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4931778-donald-trump-national-guard-military-enemy-from-within/amp/ Help me understand how the president-elect, or loser in the election, can direct the military to act against citizens? Occam's Razor would indicate that he is talking about military/guard resources keeping the peace, which he believes is threatened by the Left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,815 Posted October 15 28 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Thanks for finding this out! Now I'm not voting for Trump. I'm outraged! I'm not asking that as a means of saying "Who you voting for?" It just struck me as odd and I was wondering if those signs are other places as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,814 Posted October 15 Trump endorsed by Las Vegas Review Journal. I am not familiar with this paper but I did look up the ownership and history and understand they likely lean strongly right. I post this not specifically because of the endorsement, but the FACTS and reasoning for the endorsement. Other than their stance on Jan 6th, which I mostly disagree with, they pretty much nail where I'm coming from, both in my reasoning for voting for Trump AND in why I don't believe Kamala is a worthy President. And I suspect this reasoning will resonate with many of the people here voting for Trump: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/rj-endorses/las-vegas-review-journal-endorses-donald-trump-for-president-3188637/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Help me understand how the president-elect, or loser in the election, can direct the military to act against citizens? Occam's Razor would indicate that he is talking about military/guard resources keeping the peace, which he believes is threatened by the Left. In the interview he mentioned Adam Schiff. You may dislike Schiff but you’ll have to explain to me how Schiff represents threat to peace. Does it bother you that you’re constantly forced to defend Donald Trump? That he never really means it when he says this crazy sh!t?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,814 Posted October 15 Pressure keeps building for CBS to release the unedited transcripts of the Kamalatoe 60 minutes interview. I hope the real journalists out there don't let this go: https://x.com/C__Herridge/status/1845966323572265056/photo/1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,173 Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: In the interview he mentioned Adam Schiff. You may dislike Schiff but you’ll have to explain to me how Schiff represents threat to peace. Does it bother you that you’re constantly forced to defend Donald Trump? That he never really means it when he says this crazy sh!t?? I'll have to do no such thing. Answer my question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,814 Posted October 15 Anyone else notice how the Libs here like @The Real timschochet just ignore the issues that come up around Kamalatoe's campaign, like her plagiarism issue, CBS' 60 minutes editing controversy, etc....? They just pretend those things don't exist. I find it amusing but I do notice their silence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 627 Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, Strike said: Anyone else notice how the Libs here like @The Real timschochet just ignore the issues that come up around Kamalatoe's campaign, like her plagiarism issue, CBS' 60 minutes editing controversy, etc....? They just pretend those things don't exist. I find it amusing but I do notice their silence. He pivots more often than the General in a circle jerk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
