The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 6, 2024 Just now, Strike said: In polls. That's where. FFS. Which poll? Please be specific, Tia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,869 Posted September 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Which poll? Please be specific, Tia Look for yourself. YW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,251 Posted September 6, 2024 Nate Silvers projection model has been heavily swinging towards Trump in recent days. Silver's project Trump has over a 60% chance of winning while giving Harris roughly a 38% chance. Rasmussen polling is also heavily trending towards Trump. Whereas they are within a point on the 5-day rolling average the last polling day has Trump +5. Many of the polls which are strong for Harris have a long history of overstating Democratic candidate's strengths, with polls by CNN and Quinnipiac being the worst offenders both missing election by an average of over 6 points in recent elections. It is fools gold to buy into the propaganda being pushed by establishment media. Untill you realize the establishment media is just a mouthpiece for the big governement/corporation establishment power structure, you will remain very ignorant and easily manipulated. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,579 Posted September 6, 2024 1 minute ago, jonmx said: Nate Silvers projection model has been heavily swinging towards Trump in recent days. Silver's project Trump has over a 60% chance of winning while giving Harris roughly a 38% chance. Rasmussen polling is also heavily trending towards Trump. Whereas they are within a point on the 5-day rolling average the last polling day has Trump +5. Many of the polls which are strong for Harris have a long history of overstating Democratic candidate's strengths, with polls by CNN and Quinnipiac being the worst offenders both missing election by an average of over 6 points in recent elections. Don't tell Timmy. You'll kill his fake buzz. The guy drinks N/A beer by the gallon and feels drunk by it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,869 Posted September 6, 2024 7 minutes ago, jonmx said: Nate Silvers projection model has been heavily swinging towards Trump in recent days. Silver's project Trump has over a 60% chance of winning while giving Harris roughly a 38% chance. Rasmussen polling is also heavily trending towards Trump. Whereas they are within a point on the 5-day rolling average the last polling day has Trump +5. Many of the polls which are strong for Harris have a long history of overstating Democratic candidate's strengths, with polls by CNN and Quinnipiac being the worst offenders both missing election by an average of over 6 points in recent elections. It is fools gold to buy into the propaganda being pushed by establishment media. Untill you realize the establishment media is just a mouthpiece for the big governement/corporation establishment power structure, you will remain very ignorant and easily manipulated. Emerson college too. And this is how you know Tim is just a hack. At the earliest signs of life for Kamalatoe's campaign be changed the title of this thread and left it that way for the last three weeks. I told him last week that her momentum had waned and to change the title and he refused. Now it's clear the momentum has swung the other way and the best he will do is say "Meh.". Just a big old hack. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,036 Posted September 6, 2024 It's pretty clear Tim isn't going to think the momentum has changed unless he stops crying every time he hears her speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,036 Posted September 6, 2024 43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But basically since she’s been in the race, the bettors have them both at 50-50. So what’s changed? Forgetting your unwillingness to look at the real changes in the polls and betting odds to Trump's favor, making you reek like a hack, claiming nothing has changed means zero momentum. You're a hack that doesn't understand simple physics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,477 Posted September 6, 2024 The momentum was fake. Paid people to attend rallies, oversampling of Democrats in polls, AI enhanced pictures at rallies, spent heavily on social media influencers, media buys and talking points. It was all bogus. Only a moron is going to vote for Kamala. No platform, unable to communicate or think at a level above a 6th grader. The Democrat Party and Deep State are just hoping they can ride a coalition of TDS, dummies, and fake votes to victory in November. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,290 Posted September 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: The momentum was fake. Of course it was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,493 Posted September 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: The momentum was fake. Paid people to attend rallies, oversampling of Democrats in polls, AI enhanced pictures at rallies, spent heavily on social media influencers, media buys and talking points. It was all bogus. Only a moron is going to vote for Kamala. No platform, unable to communicate or think at a level above a 6th grader. The Democrat Party and Deep State are just hoping they can ride a coalition of TDS, dummies, and fake votes to victory in November. She's the epitome of someone who slept her way to the top. She beats Trump on that platform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,284 Posted September 6, 2024 Hawaii in play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 6, 2024 Wow. What a circle jerk in here. You guys crack me up. Love especially how @Strike offered up Emerson- the same folks who now have Kamala within striking distance in Florida and Texas. Lololol. Sorry guys the momentum has been real all along and it’s still going strong. The race is still tight but all the signs are leaning in her direction. Am I being delusional again? We’ll find out pretty shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,822 Posted September 6, 2024 Texas and Florida in play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Texas and Florida in play. Yep. Here is 538 who only a month ago @Strike loved and is now ignoring- and he has the nerve to call anyone else a hack! https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/?ex_cid=abcpromo Harris is leading in almost all polling- including Emerson- and yet the momentum isn’t real. It’s slowed down and reversed. Sure it has. ETA- I shouldn’t have written “almost all”- she’s actually leading in every national poll. Of course they don’t use Rasmussen- too many land lines. In the swing states she’s either ahead or tied in all of them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 200 Posted September 6, 2024 Tim you are delusional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,036 Posted September 6, 2024 Someone want to explain to the gimp how momentum isn't determinative of who is currently ahead or behind in a snapshot of time? Probably not worth the breath. And hey Tim, your link is the popular vote. And even that's gone from 3.7% to 3.1% the past two weeks. Reverse momentum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,199 Posted September 7, 2024 Putin: "As for the favorites, there's no need to define that, it's a choice by the people of America in the end. I've said that our so to say favorite was the acting President, Mr. Biden. He's been taken out of the race. But he's advised all of his supporters to support Mrs. Harris. That's what we'll do; we'll support her too. Secondly, her laugh is so expressive and infectious. That means she's doing well." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,477 Posted September 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Putin: "As for the favorites, there's no need to define that, it's a choice by the people of America in the end. I've said that our so to say favorite was the acting President, Mr. Biden. He's been taken out of the race. But he's advised all of his supporters to support Mrs. Harris. That's what we'll do; we'll support her too. Secondly, her laugh is so expressive and infectious. That means she's doing well." Putin seems to be the type of guy Kamala has taken a fancy to in the past. Who’s to say…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted September 7, 2024 Most candidates get a convention bounce. Kamala loses ground. Momentum!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted September 7, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: In the swing states she’s either ahead or tied in all of them. Hold up. GA, AZ and NC aren’t swing states? Or are you just lying again? 538 (your link) has Trump leading those 3. And it has PA tied. Trump wins those 3 and PA and its game over. You ill son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,579 Posted September 7, 2024 15 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: Hold up. GA, AZ and NC aren’t swing states? Or are you just lying again? 538 (your link) has Trump leading those 3. And it has PA tied. Trump wins those 3 and PA and its game over. You ill son. Timmy thinks the swing states are California, Illinois, and New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 2 hours ago, Horseman said: Someone want to explain to the gimp how momentum isn't determinative of who is currently ahead or behind in a snapshot of time? Probably not worth the breath. And hey Tim, your link is the popular vote. And even that's gone from 3.7% to 3.1% the past two weeks. Reverse momentum. I don’t think a half a point swing one way or the other is meaningful. I’m still looking at long term trend lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 1 hour ago, JuneJuly said: Hold up. GA, AZ and NC aren’t swing states? Or are you just lying again? 538 (your link) has Trump leading those 3. And it has PA tied. Trump wins those 3 and PA and its game over. You ill son. If it’s within 2 points one way or the other I see it as essentially a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 Another big reason I continue to argue that Kamala’s momentum hasn’t died out is that her personal favorability numbers continue to increase: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/harris-vs-trump-polls-kamala-popularity.html This is a big deal. It wins elections. The fact is that people like Kamala now that they’re getting to know her. Her numbers prior to now were based on Biden’s performance, which was based on people’s dislike of inflation (not on their dislike of Biden; as inflation becomes less of an issue his numbers are rising as well.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,284 Posted September 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Another big reason I continue to argue that Kamala’s momentum hasn’t died out is that her personal favorability numbers continue to increase: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/harris-vs-trump-polls-kamala-popularity.html This is a big deal. It wins elections. The fact is that people like Kamala now that they’re getting to know her. Her numbers prior to now were based on Biden’s performance, which was based on people’s dislike of inflation (not on their dislike of Biden; as inflation becomes less of an issue his numbers are rising as well.) You’re a woman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,243 Posted September 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Another big reason I continue to argue that Kamala’s momentum hasn’t died out is that her personal favorability numbers continue to increase: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/harris-vs-trump-polls-kamala-popularity.html This is a big deal. It wins elections. The fact is that people like Kamala now that they’re getting to know her. Her numbers prior to now were based on Biden’s performance, which was based on people’s dislike of inflation (not on their dislike of Biden; as inflation becomes less of an issue his numbers are rising as well.) What have they gotten to know about her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted September 7, 2024 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If it’s within 2 points one way or the other I see it as essentially a tie. So Trump is ahead or tied in every single swing state then. Momentum!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,493 Posted September 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Another big reason I continue to argue that Kamala’s momentum hasn’t died out is that her personal favorability numbers continue to increase: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/harris-vs-trump-polls-kamala-popularity.html This is a big deal. It wins elections. The fact is that people like Kamala now that they’re getting to know her. Her numbers prior to now were based on Biden’s performance, which was based on people’s dislike of inflation (not on their dislike of Biden; as inflation becomes less of an issue his numbers are rising as well.) This is absurd, Tim. First you were all about polls when they showed Kamala in the lead. Now that the honeymoon is over, she's dropped in the polls to the point where now Trump appears to have the advantage and you now proclaim the polls are wrong and then move on to some absurd popularity contest meter (by NYMag, of course) like you're still in high school. You're all over place with your emotions like a teenage girl. Think logically. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted September 7, 2024 How is Comrade Kamala only up 2 points (tied according to Tim) in WI? That used to be pushing double digits. Isn't that the tampon state? Momentum!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: This is absurd, Tim. First you were all about polls when they showed Kamala in the lead. Now that the honeymoon is over, she's dropped in the polls to the point where now Trump appears to have the advantage and you now proclaim the polls are wrong and then move on to some absurd popularity contest meter (by NYMag, of course) like you're still in high school. You're all over place with your emotions like a teenage girl. Think logically. When did I say the polls are wrong? They’re not wrong. Kamala leads nationwide and leads or is effectively tied in all the swing states. It’s a toss up for sure but I think she’s in a favorable position. That’s been my argument all along. The post you responded to was an argument I made IN ADDITION to the polling not as an alternative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 And this “drop in the polls” thing is nonsense. Let’s be clear: if somebody is 10 points down, then catches up to take a 51-49 lead, then falls behind slightly to 51-49 the other way, that’s not a “drop in the polls.” That means she’s caught up to margin of error and is still caught up. Let me know when Kamala loses 5-10 points in a poll the way Trump has. Then I will pay attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,055 Posted September 7, 2024 If the polls are close at all, that's not good for Democrats, everybody knows this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,869 Posted September 7, 2024 25 minutes ago, Reality said: If the polls are close at all, that's not good for Democrats, everybody knows this. Trump has underpolled by several points in the polls in the previous two Presidential elections. @The Real timschochet refuses to acknowledge that. Just another data point that shows how much of an ignorant hack he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,398 Posted September 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: Trump has underpolled by several points in the polls in the previous two Presidential elections. @The Real timschochet refuses to acknowledge that. Just another data point that shows how much of an ignorant hack he is. To the contrary I’ve noted it many times before. However I don’t agree it represents a pattern. I suspect that this time around will reflect more of what we saw in 2022 in which the outrage against overturning Roe was severely underpolled. Look to see suburban women again rise up and suprise pollsters with their numbers for Kamala. As far as you calling me a hack I’ve already demonstrated why that is clearly projection on your part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,383 Posted September 7, 2024 “getting to know Kamala” >>> Inflation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,829 Posted September 7, 2024 I’ve had 2 polling texts ask who I was voting for and I chose Trump both times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,829 Posted September 7, 2024 Try to watch to the end: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_Bcs01Sqas/?igsh=YjYxaWR1OGhxM2Q3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites