Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[purdygood 306]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

You are hung up on toilet paper and what ifs. 

What if Tariffs only raise prices for American's? What if we benefit from goods being made by people from other countries? What if those people make more money and stop trying to illegally immigrate here? What if is also the new Marvel Universe thing and it's stupid but... what if (Inception)

[seafoam1 2,525]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

What if Tariffs only raise prices for American's? What if we benefit from goods being made by people from other countries? What if those people make more money and stop trying to illegally immigrate here? What if is also the new Marvel Universe thing and it's stupid but... what if (Inception)

ok. Go Trump!! 

[purdygood 306]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

ok. Go Trump!! 

I know you love Trump. You know I hate him.  Let's agree to disagree. (hugs) (in a non gay way) Go America either way!

[seafoam1 2,525]

6 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I know you love Trump. You know I hate him.  Let's agree to disagree. (hugs) (in a non gay way)

Dude. We seriously can't have harris as a president. At least Trump can handle foreign affairs. And he puts focus on the border. 

[jerryskids 6,165]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s really sad that more and more you have felt the need to defend Trump as we get closer to the election. I get that you’re conservative but months ago you struck me as someone who was clear-eyed about him and no MAGA. But now you seem like you’re married to them like so many other right- wingers I know. Too bad. 

Nothing I said is incorrect:  polling indicates the country agrees with me.  Sorry to sadden you.  I voted for DeSantis and against every MAGA candidate in the past two AZ primaries.  

You and I see threats to democracy in different places.  You see it in Trump's bloviations, despite a 4 year track record of mostly good performance.  I see it in the erosion of our culture, through the increasing progressive destruction of the family.  I see it in moral relativism that allows Hamas to be not totally evil.  I see it in a horde of people coming through open borders.  I see it in talks of removing the filibuster to increase the number of SCOTUS judges and steamroll through any hairbrained progressive idea (Medicare for all, tax money to trans illegal aliens, forced gun confiscation to name a few).  I see it through a mainstream media, once our Fourth Estate, which has become a lap dog to the Democratic party.  You may recall in the past that the MSM partiality against Trump and for anything Left was always a soapbox of mine.

I think what pushed me over the edge for Trump, though, was the lawfare we've seen in the past year, particularly the Merchan case.  I can't help it that you don't see a problem with MacGyvering together a "felony" for an 8 yr old payoff to a pron star against the Republican candidate for POTUS.  I can, however, laugh at your concern that Trump is going to throw opponents in jail, when, and read this really slowly:  your party has been trying to do exactly that to Trump for years.

 

[purdygood 306]

8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Dude. We seriously can't have harris as a president. At least Trump can handle foreign affairs. And he puts focus on the border. 

What foreign affairs can he handle?   Making out with Putin in secret rooms and sending ""love letters" Kim Jong Un ?  Sound's like a Austin Powers movie.  The dude is a 78 year old Pedophile who' was BFF's with Jeffrey Epstein. Said he would F his daughter if she wasn't his daughter. (On tape) Said he could grab women by the Pu$$y (on tape). Promised to build a wall and Mexico would pay for it (epic fail). Lowered taxes for billionaires permanently and cut short tax cuts for the middle class. Wears makeup every day like a tranny.  And yet, he is your hero.   I could go on and on and on.  Trump is literally everything you despise.   Yet, you vote for him because Go Team Red!

[jerryskids 6,165]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

All of those are a continuation of the previous 4 years of the Dem administration.  Go back and look at the numbers, they were all trending that way from the Obama days and he didn't do anything to help or improve it.  I(along with many economists) would argue the opposite, his corporate tax cuts didn't spur new economic growth, but more wealth accumulation by the people at the top. You are giving him a lot of credit for riding the momentum of the previous administration. 

Also that's a big "except", because him and his administrations response to that is enough to not deserve a second term.  

 

My point was that we know what a Trump admin will be like, we lived through it, and it was pretty good.  But to your comments:

If he didn't fix something that wasn't broken, that's a good thing.

Most economists who took a macroeconomic class know that corporate tax cuts spur growth.  And we saw growth.  But...

...I've always hated the following position by the Left:  "sure, the poor did better, but the rich did MORE better, so that's bad!  Inequality!"  Really?  Everyone benefits, but the people who actually made shiot happen benefitted more, and this is a bad thing?  If you don't see why this is NOT a bad thing, I don't know that I can explain it.

My "except" was on abortion, is that your point?  If so, Trump's position is that it is a state issue, and not for the feds to create a national law.  That alone is enough to not deserve a second term?  

[seafoam1 2,525]

3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

What foreign affairs can he handle?   Making out with Putin in secret rooms and sending ""love letters" Kim Jong Un ?  Sound's like a Austin Powers movie.  The dude is a 78 year old Pedophile who' was BFF's with Jeffrey Epstein. Said he would F his daughter if she wasn't his daughter. (On tape) Said he could grab women by the Pu$$y (on tape). Promised to build a wall and Mexico would pay for it (epic fail). Lowered taxes for billionaires permanently and cut short tax cuts for the middle class. Wears makeup every day like a tranny.  And yet, he is your hero.

Putin. 

You are full on liberal. Foreign wars are great says liberals. 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

Putin. 

You are full on liberal. 

Maybe we should invade Canada, I mean it's going so well for Vlad.  I guess borders don't matter.....

 

Maybe Vlad should have built a wall to keep those pesky Ukranians out.

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[zsasz 342]

2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You're competing with yourself.  No one challenged your data.  We just said to show your work because you made an initial assertion w/out providing data.  You don't seriously expect anyone to believe you on your word with your history of lying and pushing propaganda in these forums, do you? 

Anyways, we're all done playing your fake "gotcha" game that you started to find a way to make yourself feel better about your miserable existence.  You've been thoroughly and completely taken down and dispatched by me.   There's nothing left for me to do than just laugh at you while you flail.  

That's all I've got for you today, so go away now. 

More American soldiers died under Trump than Biden.  You didn't believe it.  It was proven true.  I know that goes against what Trump has said and that you only listen to Trump.  Educate yourself, Kid.  Challenge the sources you believe to be true and always look to improve your knowledge.  You're a MAGA clown now....maybe if you keep being put in check by people like me; you'll actually learn something.   

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,044]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

You’ve always seemed like an RNC shill.

Despite only voting for one republican president mkay

[seafoam1 2,525]

Just now, zsasz said:

More American soldiers died under Trump than Biden.  You didn't believe it.  It was proven true.  I know that goes against what Trump has said and that you only listen to Trump.  Educate yourself, Kid.  Challenge the sources you believe to be true and always look to improve your knowledge.  You're a MAGA clown now....maybe if you keep being put in check by peopel like me; you actually learn something.   

zazzy!!

[zsasz 342]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Her opponent was POTUS for 4 years.  Except for Covid, we had a great economy, low inflation, low unemployment, secure borders, peace in the middle east, no new major world conflicts.  You know, all the stuff people say they care about, except for more killing of unborn babies.  Harris has that one.

Highlight the part where this says he will jail his political opponents.  Also, muh Russia interference!

Except for your husband....how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

[seafoam1 2,525]

2 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Except for your husband....how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

Zazzy being gay. Again. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,409]

5 minutes ago, zsasz said:

More American soldiers died under Trump than Biden.  You didn't believe it.  It was proven true.  I know that goes against what Trump has said and that you only listen to Trump.  Educate yourself, Kid.  Challenge the sources you believe to be true and always look to improve your knowledge.  You're a MAGA clown now....maybe if you keep being put in check by people like me; you'll actually learn something.   

I asked you to show your work because you made a claim without data. No one trusts you because you're nothing but a propaganda zealot and a simp for the DNC.  There is nothing that anyone can learn from you.

That reputation you have is deserved so that's on you.  Be better.

 

[jerryskids 6,165]

2 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Except for your husband....how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

Very centrist of you.  Trump blasted vaccines through approval in record time; I would think a pseud centrist like yourself would appreciate that., as well as the fact that most if not all of the "growth" under Biden/Harris has been recovering from the once-in-a-century pandemic.   

Unless you are blaming Trump for the pandemic, which since Fauci was in his government and likely helped fund Covid development in China, is a fair accusation.   

[zsasz 342]

22 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I asked you to show your work because you made a claim without data. No one trusts you because you're nothing but a propaganda zealot and a simp for the DNC.  There is nothing that anyone can learn from you.

That reputation you have is deserved so that's on you.  Be better.

 

Search out more info than simply what MAGA spews.  You'll be better for it.  

[zsasz 342]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Very centrist of you.  Trump blasted vaccines through approval in record time; I would think a pseud centrist like yourself would appreciate that., as well as the fact that most if not all of the "growth" under Biden/Harris has been recovering from the once-in-a-century pandemic.   

Unless you are blaming Trump for the pandemic, which since Fauci was in his government and likely helped fund Covid development in China, is a fair accusation.   

Diminishing COVID as "Except for COVID" is silly.  That's what you said. It was the biggest thing that happened during Trumps 4 years. 

[IGotWorms 4,021]

28 minutes ago, zsasz said:

More American soldiers died under Trump than Biden.  You didn't believe it.  It was proven true.  I know that goes against what Trump has said and that you only listen to Trump.  Educate yourself, Kid.  Challenge the sources you believe to be true and always look to improve your knowledge.  You're a MAGA clown now....maybe if you keep being put in check by people like me; you'll actually learn something.   

MAGAts don’t like facts 

[zsasz 342]

21 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Very centrist of you.  Trump blasted vaccines through approval in record time; I would think a pseud centrist like yourself would appreciate that., as well as the fact that most if not all of the "growth" under Biden/Harris has been recovering from the once-in-a-century pandemic.   

Unless you are blaming Trump for the pandemic, which since Fauci was in his government and likely helped fund Covid development in China, is a fair accusation.   

I don't really feel the need to blame Trump for the pandemic.  My first inclination isn't to blame leaders for super serious things as those things usually have been simmering for years prior to them boiling over.  I don't blame Bush for 9/11 and think people who do are dumb.  

That being said,  in 2018 there were complaints over a Trump led decision to curb our Pandemic Response chain of command.  Did Trump do that simply because of it being a bit of an Obama pet project? Was he playing Party politics in that one?

 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,044]

5 minutes ago, zsasz said:

I don't really feel the need to blame Trump for the pandemic.  My first inclination isn't to blame leaders for super serious things as those things usually have been simmering for years prior to them boiling over.  I don't blame Bush for 9/11 and think people who do are dumb.  

That being said,  in 2018 there were complaints over a Trump led decision to curb our Pandemic Response chain of command.  Did Trump do that simply because of it being a bit of an Obama pet project? Was he playing Party politics in that one?

 

 

He did it cause he wasn’t told they had a plandemic lined up

[jerryskids 6,165]

23 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Diminishing COVID as "Except for COVID" is silly.  That's what you said. It was the biggest thing that happened during Trumps 4 years. 

No it isn't.  Blaming Trump for the economic impact of Covid, when it crippled the entire world economy, is silly.  Crediting Biden for the inevitable rebound/growth after Covid is silly.  HTH

[JuneJuly 192]

Are you his daughter?

[seafoam1 2,525]

49 minutes ago, zsasz said:

I don't really feel the need to blame Trump for the pandemic.  

 

Oh boy. That is so good to know. 

[Mark Davis 280]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The same poll has Harris winning North Carolina by 3. If she wins North Carolina she wins Georgia. 

I'd argue if Trump wins GA then he wins NC.  The bottom line is those states aren't going to be as far apart as all that.  There's no way they are 7 points different.

[seafoam1 2,525]

2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I'd argue if Trump wins GA then he wins NC.  The bottom line is those states aren't going to be as far apart as all that.  There's no way they are 7 points different.

Timmy knows best. Just remember that. He loves communism. Go kameltoe.

[IGotWorms 4,021]

1 hour ago, Mark Davis said:

I'd argue if Trump wins GA then he wins NC.  The bottom line is those states aren't going to be as far apart as all that.  There's no way they are 7 points different.

What about 2020?

[seafoam1 2,525]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What about 2020?

Liberal riots. Killing people. Burning down businesses.  

[Mark Davis 280]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What about 2020?

In 2020 the opposite happened, GA was more blue.  It stands to reason if he wins GA, he likely wins NC as well.  I'm not sure what would have moved the statistical relationship between those two states towards NC being more blue, especially given Trump's issues with Kemp in particular in GA.

In 2020 GA was Biden +0.2% and NC Trump 1.4%, a 1.6% spread.  It's not going to be 7%.

[jonmx 2,195]

3 hours ago, zsasz said:

More American soldiers died under Trump than Biden.  You didn't believe it.  It was proven true.  I know that goes against what Trump has said and that you only listen to Trump.  Educate yourself, Kid.  Challenge the sources you believe to be true and always look to improve your knowledge.  You're a MAGA clown now....maybe if you keep being put in check by people like me; you'll actually learn something.   

What a retarded stat.  There were hardly any American soldiers death during either, because we were not at war.  There were a few dozen during both terms.  But Biden fought proxy wars, so he is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of our allied troops who died fighting our war.  A half of trillion dollars and a half a million lives flushed down the toilet to prop up some puppet dictatorship which we installed.  There is no righteousness in that war.  

[Dizkneelande 1,018]

I love that Green Day created an entire album about how much they hate the George W Bush regime and now they align politically with Cheney.

[IGotWorms 4,021]

23 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

In 2020 the opposite happened, GA was more blue.  It stands to reason if he wins GA, he likely wins NC as well.  I'm not sure what would have moved the statistical relationship between those two states towards NC being more blue, especially given Trump's issues with Kemp in particular in GA.

In 2020 GA was Biden +0.2% and NC Trump 1.4%, a 1.6% spread.  It's not going to be 7%.

Oh I see. Yeah I agree it won’t be 7%. But he absolutely could win one but not the other 

[MDC 6,754]

I am having trouble wrapping my head around why GA is more likely to go blue than NC.  

[Fnord 1,664]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

My point was that we know what a Trump admin will be like, we lived through it, and it was pretty good.

His first admin was staffed by "RINOs" that had some semblance of respect for political norms and the law. These people kept him from carrying out his worst whims, like shooting protestors or sending troops into the sovereign nation of Mexico. His own VP prevented him from a creating a constitutional (and national) crisis on J6. His every move since then has been made with removing "obstacles" to his agenda in mind. Hence schedule F, as an example.

His next administration (god forbid) will be nothing but a naked power grab. He can't run again (yet), so he is less beholden than ever to his constituency, he's old AF, and he has absolutely no reason to not indulge in his very worst instincts. He is surrounded by sycophants that are all there because of their loyalty, not their expertise. SCOTUS is running interference for him already. He wants to demolish the presidential "hands off" doctrine toward the DOJ. Now, I realize that YOU think that has already happened, but there is at least some gray area there. Where is the gray area in his statements regarding jailing his opponents?

[jonmx 2,195]

25 minutes ago, MDC said:

I am having trouble wrapping my head around why GA is more likely to go blue than NC.  

It is not.  Neither are going blue. 

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

It is not.  Neither are going blue. 

I think they both will. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,044]

30 minutes ago, MDC said:

I am having trouble wrapping my head around why GA is more likely to go blue than NC.  

more blacks that have to stay on the plantation

 

I mean Peenie hates everything about the DNC, but this time they are gonna help the black folk cause they have woman/of color and thats what matters

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,409]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

more blacks that have to stay on the plantation

I mean Peenie hates everything about the DNC, but this time they are gonna help the black folk cause they have woman/of color and thats what matters

Hates everything about the DNC but keeps voting for them. 

IT'S GONNA' BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME!!!!

[MDC 6,754]

9 minutes ago, jonmx said:

It is not.  Neither are going blue. 

GA went blue last time and say I saw it was a dead heat this time, but NC went to Trump in 2020.