BrahmaBulls 627 Posted October 16 45 minutes ago, thegeneral said: She’s doing the interview. Have you ever watched a Trump interview. He starts crying in the middle about the interviewer unless it’s a personal ballwasher like Hannity Pivot man is a ballwasher expert too. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,500 Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: So much nicer than the community ballwashers. It really is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,500 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Pivot man is a ballwasher expert too. Go figure. I knew this would pique your interest! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 280 Posted October 16 Updated Bovada odds: Trump -160 Harris +135 Vig adjusted pretty much 3:2 now. Nevada has gone blue in latest Trafalgar poll and GA first early vote day I didn’t like for Trump. But someone thinks he’s leading, money keeps coming in. I’ve learned in the past to listen to the money. Arizona does look good for Trump though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 Walter White endorses Kamala: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bryan-cranston-harris-trump-endorsement-abortion-b2628822.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=related&utm_campaign=embed1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 35 Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Walter White endorses Kamala: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bryan-cranston-harris-trump-endorsement-abortion-b2628822.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=related&utm_campaign=embed1 A murderous drug dealer. Welcome to the Kamala family you'll fit in just right. Good pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,483 Posted October 16 3 hours ago, Horseman said: 1 - Learn English 2 - Whales haven't been betting every single day for the past 10 days. https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president That's just regular betters bettors. Voter sentiment. Unless you want to link to some big bets, houses tout them to get more money coming in. And BTW, most whales aren't stupid so it's a terrible argument anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,108 Posted October 16 My official prediction: I think the race will break in Kamala’s favor somewhere in the 10-7 days before the election. The majority of the swing states will go her way. Either 6-1 or 5-2 Democrats outperform the polling numbers once again. Please add as many as you like. I will preserve them for the official record. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,444 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: Interesting that they are spending money in Wisconsin on this. Perhaps that indicates some polling data showing Wisconsin may be in play, or perhaps it is just a reaction to Hillary ignoring Wisconsin at her own peril back in the day. Kyle is in Wisconsin for the sausage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 9 minutes ago, OldMaid said: My official prediction: I think the race will break in Kamala’s favor somewhere in the 10-7 days before the election. The majority of the swing states will go her way. Either 6-1 or 5-2 Democrats outperform the polling numbers once again. Please add as many as you like. I will preserve them for the official record. I don’t think it will break in her favor until Election Day. Before that the polls will show it tight. On Election Day people here will be stunned as she starts winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,444 Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think it will break in her favor until Election Day. Before that the polls will show it tight. On Election Day people here will be stunned as she starts winning. I think we all expect a big ballot dump out of nowhere in her favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 306 Posted October 16 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: I think we all expect a big ballot dump out of nowhere in her favor. A lot of states allow mail in voting, but don't allow those votes to be counted until voting day (dumb) which is where a lot of these "ballot dumps" come from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, purdygood said: A lot of states allow mail in voting, but don't allow those votes to be counted until voting day (dumb) which is where a lot of these "ballot dumps" come from. I get that it seems dumb but the problem with counting mail in voting prior to Election Day is that it might depress voters on the side who is behind, and they will stay home as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 306 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I get that it seems dumb but the problem with counting mail in voting prior to Election Day is that it might depress voters on the side who is behind, and they will stay home as a result. I get that too. But I was explaining, that's where "the vote dumps" come from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,483 Posted October 16 48 minutes ago, OldMaid said: My official prediction: I think the race will break in Kamala’s favor somewhere in the 10-7 days before the election. The majority of the swing states will go her way. Either 6-1 or 5-2 Democrats outperform the polling numbers once again. Please add as many as you like. I will preserve them for the official record. I don't think you are wrong, my friend. I hope you are wrong because even as someone who is not a big DJT fan, the thought of Kamala running our country makes me absolutely sick, as does the manner in which she has arrived here. 2020 - couldn't sniff the democratic nomination. 2020 - was attached to old white Joe to appeal to younger, female, and minority demographics. 2024 - Joe is more than fine!, very sharp, no cognitive decline, perfectly fit to lead the country! 20204 - Joe flops in debate, Democratic party pressures him out, Kamala assumed the mantle due to timing, despite better candidates likely being available. People can say what they want about Trump, myself included, but he had 4 years as president and he's not really shying away from what he accomplished in those 4 years. That's why the narrative always shifts to Jan 6 and peaceful transfer of power. Kamala, on the other hand, almost always refuses to speak in any depth about her role in the current administration. Why the things she is promising to do were not already done. Why Harris-Walz will be different than Biden-Harris. I mentioned this, probably in one of the other hundred political threads, but even though I am not a huge Killary fan, I actually feel bad for her. No matter anyone's feelings toward her, it is hard to deny that she is smart, sharp, well educated, professional and very articulate. To think that Kamala Harris may be the first female POTUS must make her sick. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 14 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I don't think you are wrong, my friend. I hope you are wrong because even as someone who is not a big DJT fan, the thought of Kamala running our country makes me absolutely sick, as does the manner in which she has arrived here. 2020 - couldn't sniff the democratic nomination. 2020 - was attached to old white Joe to appeal to younger, female, and minority demographics. 2024 - Joe is more than fine!, very sharp, no cognitive decline, perfectly fit to lead the country! 20204 - Joe flops in debate, Democratic party pressures him out, Kamala assumed the mantle due to timing, despite better candidates likely being available. People can say what they want about Trump, myself included, but he had 4 years as president and he's not really shying away from what he accomplished in those 4 years. That's why the narrative always shifts to Jan 6 and peaceful transfer of power. Kamala, on the other hand, almost always refuses to speak in any depth about her role in the current administration. Why the things she is promising to do were not already done. Why Harris-Walz will be different than Biden-Harris. I mentioned this, probably in one of the other hundred political threads, but even though I am not a huge Killary fan, I actually feel bad for her. No matter anyone's feelings toward her, it is hard to deny that she is smart, sharp, well educated, professional and very articulate. To think that Kamala Harris may be the first female POTUS must make her sick. It doesn’t because her view of Kamala’s abilities is completely opposed to yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 Kamala Harris has run a nearly flawless campaign so far IMO. She spent the first month introducing herself. Now she is drawing the contrast. The public needs to be reminded that Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy, our prosperity, our future as a free country. And that in Kamala we have a capable, smart, centrist as an alternative. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,192 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Kamala Harris has run a nearly flawless campaign so far IMO. She spent the first month introducing herself. Now she is drawing the contrast. The public needs to be reminded that Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy, our prosperity, our future as a free country. And that in Kamala we have a capable, smart, centrist as an alternative. you're a troll 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Gepetto said: you're a troll A troll says fake stuff to rile people up. I believe every word I wrote above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,108 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I don't think you are wrong, my friend. I hope you are wrong because even as someone who is not a big DJT fan, the thought of Kamala running our country makes me absolutely sick, as does the manner in which she has arrived here. 2020 - couldn't sniff the democratic nomination. 2020 - was attached to old white Joe to appeal to younger, female, and minority demographics. 2024 - Joe is more than fine!, very sharp, no cognitive decline, perfectly fit to lead the country! 20204 - Joe flops in debate, Democratic party pressures him out, Kamala assumed the mantle due to timing, despite better candidates likely being available. People can say what they want about Trump, myself included, but he had 4 years as president and he's not really shying away from what he accomplished in those 4 years. That's why the narrative always shifts to Jan 6 and peaceful transfer of power. Kamala, on the other hand, almost always refuses to speak in any depth about her role in the current administration. Why the things she is promising to do were not already done. Why Harris-Walz will be different than Biden-Harris. I mentioned this, probably in one of the other hundred political threads, but even though I am not a huge Killary fan, I actually feel bad for her. No matter anyone's feelings toward her, it is hard to deny that she is smart, sharp, well educated, professional and very articulate. To think that Kamala Harris may be the first female POTUS must make her sick. What a very well thought out reply. I really appreciate the time you put into this. I’m sorry the thought of Kamala running our country makes you sick. I don’t share your views on this. Yes, it would have been optional to have a primary, but for various reasons- Joe’s stubbornness not to leave, left them where there were. And let’s not excuse the role that Republicans played in this, as well. If the Democrats are guilty of not being forthcoming with his cognitive decline, don’t you think they share some of the blame? Hard to believe they didn’t rally harder to get him out either, but instead, they relished the idea of running against him in his state. Yes, she had a less than stellar 2020 run. In my opinion, she made the mistake of positioning herself too far left and leaning on the then current social issues that ultimately were unpopular. They also came off as phony considering she was an ex prosecutor. I do feel that she is much more aligned now with her values. Her job as vice president is not to set policy. It’s her job to support Joe Biden. I think most people understand that and that’s why she’s being given a clean slate. I am willing to at least give her the benefit of doubt and see what she can do. Yes, I do believe that Hillary must be dying on the inside, but kudos to her for putting it all aside and pitching in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,202 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: A troll says fake stuff to rile people up. I believe every word I wrote above. Which is actually even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,192 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: A troll says fake stuff to rile people up. I believe every word I wrote above. How is Trump a threat to democracy? How is Trump a threat to our future freedom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,202 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: How is Trump a threat to democracy? How is Trump a threat to our future freedom? Because the authoritarian bastards in the FBI infiltrated every group involved, had dozens if not hundreds of assets in the crowd, made sure security was lapse, and then spent the last 4 years hunting down ever person they let into the building. Trump is a threat to Democracy if you define it as a shawdow government which is the biggest producer of propaganda in the history of the world and there is not even a remotely close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 Wow. A few minutes in these are the toughest questions that Kamala has faced. But she is holding her own (IMO). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Gepetto said: How is Trump a threat to democracy? How is Trump a threat to our future freedom? I could give you both short and long answers but it’s not going to be anything that you haven’t heard before. Happy to have this debate with you again if you want. Do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 200 Posted October 16 OMG Harris is imploding in this interview Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,043 Posted October 16 This is soooooooooo bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, OldMaid said: Her job as vice president is not to set policy. It’s her job to support Joe Biden. I think most people understand that and that’s why she’s being given a clean slate. I am willing to at least give her the benefit of doubt and see what she can do. She was given one job, and went MIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 200 Posted October 16 She has been on the ropes but she just got knocked out. Now defending Biden's mental health lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,043 Posted October 16 This is so hard to watch. There's no scenario where she can run the country for the next 4 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,363 Posted October 16 She can’t stop talking and gives no substance. Very unlikable person Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Reality said: This is so hard to watch. There's no scenario where she can run the country for the next 4 years... I thought she did excellent. It was too short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 Her criticisms of Trump were dead on and accurate. They will help her hopefully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 200 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Her criticisms of Trump were dead on and accurate. They will help her hopefully. She is toast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 16 It's over already? Was there an audience? Was she even there, or a call in where she can still read her typed responses? Trump did a full hour with Bloomberg, in person, in front of a live audience. Totally the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 Kudos to Baer. Very tough questions. But I disagree with the folks here (of course they can’t stand her anyhow and I like her so we each have biases.) IMO, she held up very well. My only objection to Baer is that he wasted time on the transgender question. Nobody outside of extreme righties gives a crap about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: It's over already? Was there an audience? Trump did a full hour with Bloomberg, in front of a live audience. Totally the same thing. And he looked and sounded like a complete idiot. She didn’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Beaker15 said: She is toast Choose a new candidate and you might beat her in 2028. Depends on whom you choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,987 Posted October 16 Just now, The Real timschochet said: And he looked and sounded like a complete idiot. She didn’t. More lies, you didn't even watch. The left leaning audience gave him a standing novation at the end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Horseman said: More lies, you didn't even watch. The left leaning audience gave him a standing novation at the end. I watched about half of it, and that audience wasn’t left leaning. Lol at you writing that and then calling ME a liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites