2024 Top 10 Wr's

[GobbleDog 914]

Nobody else around here starts topics, so what the heck. "2024" is in the header in case CMH decides to bump this thread in five years and confuse the hell out of everyone. 

Rankings per FantasyPros (ppr)

1) Ceedee Lamb ADP 1.02. Played 17 games, 181 tar - 135 rec, 1,749 yds (13.0 avg), 29 deep rec (20+ yds), 12 Tds. Finished 1st last year with 403.2 pts or 23.7 per game. Was 5th in '22, and 19th in '21. Extremely consistent last year scoring 10+ pts in every game, a feat only Lamb and Hill achieved. Not much changed in Dallas, other than Rb. Years back I questioned the talent, but after the last two years - hush-yo-mouf... I was wrong. I do wonder being #1 as Prescott probably won't replicate his career best season, but another top 5-ish finish feels safe.

2) Tyreek Hill ADP 1.03. Played 16 games, 171 tar - 119 rec, 1,799 yds (15.1 avg), 29 deep rec, 13 Tds. Finished 2nd last year with 378.4 pts or 23.5 per game. Was 2nd in '22 and 6th in '21. What can ya say... he's incredible and perfectly fits the Dolphins speed system. Turned 30 yo recently, but he's so damn fast even a slight drop is still faster than everyone on the field. Team hasn't changed and feels like one of the safest picks in the draft.

3) Amon-Ra St. Brown ADP 1.04. Played 16 games, 164 tar - 119 rec, 1,515 yds (12.7 avg), 24 deep rec, 10 Tds. Finished 3rd last year with 330.9 pts or 20.7 per game. Was 7th in '22 and 21st in '21. Wr Josh Reynolds left, but not much else changed. Brown and La Porta are the backbone of the offense, which also boasts a strong running game with Gibbs and Monty. Brown doesn't get quite as many deep targets as other elite Wr's, but plenty of volume. Should easily finish top 10 and another top 3 is quite possible.

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4) Ja'Marr Chase ADP 1.05. Played 16 games, 145 tar - 100 rec, 1,216 yds (12.2 avg), 14 deep rec, 14 Tds. Finished 11th last year with 262.7 pts or 16.4 per game. Was 11th in '22 (missed games) and 5th in '21. Burrow only played 10 games last year, so the 11th place finish wasn't too shabby. Burrow recently had surgery on his throwing hand, but reports are he should be good to go. So this pick really depends on what you believe. Tee Higgins is threatening a hold-out and Tyler Boyd left town, so perhaps Chase sees more double teams?  Regardless, the "experts" I listen to say Burrow will be fine and given Chase's sick talent - double-teams be damned, I foresee a top 5-ish finish.

5) Justin Jefferson ADP 1.06. Played 10 games, 110 tar - 68 rec, 1,078 yds (15.8 avg), 25 deep rec, 5 Tds. Finished 33rd last year with 202.2 pt or 20.2 per game. Was 1st in '22 and 4th in '21. Missed seven games last year due to a hamstring. Kirk Cousins is out replaced by Sam Darnold and rookie McCarthy. Jefferson only played five games without Cousins at the end season averaging 18.6 pts per game, though the average is skewed by a week 18 spike (36 pts) against a Lions team which had already wrapped up the playoffs (but fighting for a bye). Don't know if Lions benched starters, but without that game Jefferson only averaged 14.2 pts per game in the prior four. So, what to expect from one of the most talented Wr's with Darnold and possibly a rookie?  Ugh... The impossible question, but looking at how his points dropped in the final games and how Chase declined without Burrow, a top 5 finish seems overly optimistic. I'm leaning top 10-ish, but even that feels risky - god-forbid the hamstring problem returns. Might have to pass and let someone else roll these dice.

6) A.J. Brown ADP 1.09. Played 17 games, 158 tar - 106 rec, 1,456 yds (13.7), 21 deep rec, 7 Tds. Finished 5th last year with 289.6 pts or 17.0 per game. Was 6th in '22 and 32nd in '21 (missed games). Once Mr. Consistent, he dipped some last year having fairly low scoring games in the final four. The Eagles fired the o-coordinator for last year's offensive failures and brought in Kellen Moore who was recently fired by the Chargers (supposedly because he refused to run and always wanted to 'light up the scoreboard'). Sounds like good news for Eagles Wrs. Not much else changed in the offense other than adding Barkley, but Hurts hasn't throw much to Rbs anyway. Brown scored 11 Tds in '22, but that dipped last year along with his average reception (was 17.0). So how will the new pass-happy coordinator effect Brown? Seems like a lock for another top 10 finish with potential for another top 5.

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7) Garrett Wilson ADP 1.10. Played 17 games, 168 tar - 95 rec, 1,042 yds (11.0 avg), 11 deep rec, 3 Tds. Finished 26th last year with 213.2 pts or 12.5 per game. Was 21st in '22. Everything came crashing down with Rogers going out game 1. Fans still haven't seen "the amazing talent" Wilson supposedly possesses in his first two years, but both seasons are attributed to atrocious Qb play. Now with Rogers healthy (assuming he stays healthy), will we finally be amazed?  Who knows, but good lord the volume. If Rogers throws to him 168 times, I'd certainly expect a top 10 finish. There is the slight possibility that the Jets are just too good. Great defense, solid running game with a RB who catches a ton... and Rodgers known to milk the clock. Big leads, rushing, and clock killing isn't great for Wr stats. But it's a long season. This feels like a leap of faith, but I'm willing to take the leap.

8)) Puka Nacua ADP 1.11. Played 17 games, 160 tar -105 rec, 1,486 yds (14.2 avg), 25 deep rec, 6 Tds. Finished 4th last year with 298.5 pts or 17.6 per game. Not much changed in L.A. but Kupp should be healthy to start the season - who didn't look right all year and now he's 31 yo. Kupp missed the first four games last year, but while playing together Nacua's average points per game was slightly lower at 15.6. So was Puka's rookie year a flash in the pan or a sign of things to come? Rams coach Sean McVay seems to have a way of scheming players open and force feeding them the ball as he did with Kupp for years and Nacua last year. Stafford clearly has a rapport with him and he's shown he can handle the work. No outcome wouldn't shock here... a dip to 20th, or a Kupp-like season finishing top 3. Considering what he did last year... I'm inclined to agree with this ADP.

9) Devante Adams ADP 2.03. Played 17 games, 175 tar - 103 rec, 1,144 yds (11.1 avg), 13 deep rec, 8 Tds. Finished 10th last year with 265.4 pts or 15.6 per game. Was 3rd in '22 and 2nd in '21. Last year the Raiders had Qb's O'Connell and Garoppolo. Garoppolo is out, and in comes Minshew. O'Connell played 10 games with Adams last year in which he averaged 14.9 points per game. Raiders added Brock Bowers at Te who's supposedly a "generational Te talent" (two years in a row Raiders drafted early Te - 2nd rd Mayer '22).  Who knows how much Bowers affects Adams volume, though might remove some pressure. O'Connell was a rookie last year and should theoretically improve, but nobody knows if Minshew or O'Connell starts the season. Amazing Adams hasn't demanded a trade as this garbage isn't what he signed up for. Regardless, Adams is now 31 yo (turns 32 in Dec) but is (was) one of the elite Wrs. Pure volume (175 tar) didn't result in many big plays, but did equate to a 10th place finish last year. It's anyone's guess how much volume he gets this year, if Qb play improves, if age takes a toll, or if Bowers changes the situation... this is a tough nut to crack. Way too much uncertainty for me to invest such early draft capital.

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10) Marvin Harrison Jr. ADP 2.04. The 4th overall draft pick out of Ohio State was the first Wr selected in '24. He's supposedly way more athletic than his father, with all the receiver skills NFL teams want. Selected by the Cardinals who weren't good last year and aren't supposed to be very good this year (6.5 o/u win total). Kyler Murray has never surpassed 4,000 passing yards in his five year career and his passer rating isn't great (ranked 20th last year). Considering all that... Wr 10? Even if the kid is amazing - which nobody really knows yet at the NFL level, the ADP seems incredibly optimistic. Maybe he finishes top 20... maybe. Top 10? God bless anyone who does take that leap and it works out. I won't be sharing that glory.

[weepaws 2,855]

14 team non ppr, Rbs go quickly, Harrison just might be my wr1.  I like to draft one top wr by the third rd after taking two Rbs first two picks, and might even take a rb with my first three picks.  

You get paid the big bucks to start threads

In my 12 team ppr league , I do not have Jefferson in my top five, I have Adams a little bit farther down than most, Both based on qbs.  

 

[kilroy69 1,121]

George Pickens is going to explode this year playing with Wilson as qb. 

[Ray_T 691]

6 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

George Pickens is going to explode this year playing with Wilson as qb. 

the Denver WR were supposed to do this when Wilson arrived in Denver.   Not sure I'd call that a success.   but at the same time Wilson performed better last year.   too little too late to save his job there, but maybe things will be different this time.

[Maximum Overkill 1,203]

There's a very good chance that Marvin Harrison Jr. breaks that top 10 

[GobbleDog 914]

17 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

George Pickens is going to explode this year playing with Wilson as qb. 

32) George Pickens ADP 5.01. Played 17 games, 106 tar - 63 rec, 1,140 yds (18.1 avg), 22 deep rec, 5 Tds. Finished 29th last year with 208.8 pts or 12.3 per game. Was 40th in '22. The 18.1 average reception and 22 deep receptions are impressive - type of stats only the best-of-the best usually have, even more impressive considering Pickett was qb. Clearly the big change here is Wilson, who should be a huge upgrade over K. Pickett (one of the worst qb's to ever play modern football).  But Wilson didn't exactly light it up himself last year only throwing 3,070 yds in 15 games, with Denver's top receiver - Sutton only getting 59 receptions, but did haul in 10 Tds. I consider Pickens to have considerably more talent than Sutton and will likely finish higher than last year's 29th, so his ADP of 32 feels like easy value. But how much higher than 29?  Who knows, given Wilson's lackluster passing stats and now Falcon's Arthur Smith as coordinator who completely destroyed the value of London and Pitts.

[weepaws 2,855]

People do seem to forget that the Steelers did hire A Smith to control the offense, He did indeed coach Henry.  

Ball Control. 

[GobbleDog 914]

3 minutes ago, weepaws said:

People do seem to forget that the Steelers did hire A Smith to control the offense, He did indeed coach Henry.  

Ball Control. 

Some say anyone expecting Warren to overtake Najee this year simply because Warren was more efficient (5.3 ypc compared to Najee's 4.1 last year)... need to remember Arthur Smith is the new coordinator and his frustrating offense employed with the Falcons involving Bijan and Allgeier... for good measure - Smith brought Cordarrelle Patterson with him to Pittsburgh.

The man clearly hates fantasy football.

[Showboat 177]

CeeDee and the Cowboys in general kind of scare me.  If he is going to be the first WR off the board he won't be on my team.  Yeah, the numbers suggest he is a lock for top 5, but I think my bold prediction (we don't have that thread yet, do we?) is that he won't finish in the top 10.

[Ray_T 691]

4 minutes ago, Showboat said:

CeeDee and the Cowboys in general kind of scare me.  If he is going to be the first WR off the board he won't be on my team.  Yeah, the numbers suggest he is a lock for top 5, but I think my bold prediction (we don't have that thread yet, do we?) is that he won't finish in the top 10.

I like buying players who are trying to get that big contract.    I am less keen on getting players who already have the big contract.

there are exceptions of course.   not sure if that would apply here.

[Maximum Overkill 1,203]

10 hours ago, weepaws said:

People do seem to forget that the Steelers did hire A Smith to control the offense, He did indeed coach Henry.  

Ball Control. 

Because he had Henry. 

[weepaws 2,855]

3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Because he had Henry. 

Because he had Henry , his way worked.  

[BufordT 395]

Puka Nacua last year:

1st 7 games averaged 8 receptions & 107 yards per game

Last 10 games averaged 4.7 receptions & 73 yards per game

Love watching him play but not sure I love his current adp

 

[Ray_T 691]

3 hours ago, weepaws said:

Because he had Henry , his way worked.  

yeah.   or he saw what a talent henry was and saw the team had a great O line and just went with what worked.

tough to say which came first.  the chicken or the egg haha

Belichek was not known as a coach who loved the pass game.  he was run and defend type coach until he got Brady.   then he realized the best path with a talent like him on the roster was to throw the ball.   

so its not necessarily a given that hes gonna run the same offense he did in Tennessee.    he might.    but I'll be honest.   if I had a top O line and a back like Henry I wouldnt be so concerned about running a high octane pass game.   You use the assets you have and make them work to your advantage.

 

[Showboat 177]

15 hours ago, Ray_T said:

I like buying players who are trying to get that big contract.    I am less keen on getting players who already have the big contract.

there are exceptions of course.   not sure if that would apply here.

I suspect Jerry will pay him before the season starts.  If not, will there be some kind of hold-out (or hold-in)?  That could ultimately impact performance/conditioning too.  My CeeDee skepticism is more of a gut feeling rather than based on logic.

[Ray_T 691]

11 minutes ago, Showboat said:

I suspect Jerry will pay him before the season starts.  If not, will there be some kind of hold-out (or hold-in)?  That could ultimately impact performance/conditioning too.  My CeeDee skepticism is more of a gut feeling rather than based on logic.

yeah, but if he wants a new contract at top dollar he knows he needs to perform.   thats still the bottom line.

but yeah, they may sign him.    all I'm saying is my preference is to draft someone playing for a contract.    usually the results are good.

[GobbleDog 914]

1 hour ago, BufordT said:

Puka Nacua last year:

1st 7 games averaged 8 receptions & 107 yards per game

Last 10 games averaged 4.7 receptions & 73 yards per game

Love watching him play but not sure I love his current adp

That's a fair point and a bit concerning. In his defense, he was a rookie and Kupp is now another year older. Comparing Puka to similar Wrs adp wise...

Final ten: A.J. Brown averaged 5.4 rec and 65 yds per game. 4 Tds (same as Puka)

Final ten: D. Adams averaged 5.7 rec and 62 yds per game. 5 Tds.

Ya never know when points are coming with Wrs. Also wonder if Kyren Williams absence mid-season possibly changed the way defenses played... interestingly Puka had his two lowest reception games for the season during that time span (both 3 rec).  Who knows.

[Maximum Overkill 1,203]

4 hours ago, BufordT said:

Puka Nacua last year:

1st 7 games averaged 8 receptions & 107 yards per game

Last 10 games averaged 4.7 receptions & 73 yards per game

Love watching him play but not sure I love his current adp

 

And is Puka QB proof? I don't think he's on that level. 

[gcmmidwest 124]

Cooper Kupp will bounce back and crack the top 10

[weepaws 2,855]

20 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

Cooper Kupp will bounce back and crack the top 10

Great ADP currently. 

[Ray_T 691]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

And is Puka QB proof? I don't think he's on that level. 

I'd agree.   hes good, but not THAT good.

there are likely no more than 5 or 6 WR's that fit into that category

[IGotWorms 3,856]

45 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

Cooper Kupp will bounce back and crack the top 10

Highly doubt it. He only had a few good games last year. I’m not saying he’s trash now or anything, but 2021 was a while ago now 

[GobbleDog 914]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Highly doubt it. He only had a few good games last year. I’m not saying he’s trash now or anything, but 2021 was a while ago now 

Kupp finished 40th last year, but his 12 game stats were on pace for 84 rec, 1,044 yds, and 7 Tds, over a full season. In ppr, that would've ranked him 18th... way higher than I would've guessed.

He's currently ranked Wr 22. If he were likely to play an entire season, the current ranking might make sense. But he turns 31 in a few days, missed 9 games in '21 and 5 games in '22. Anyone believe he plays the entire season AND continues the pace he was on last year?  

[Ray_T 691]

46 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Highly doubt it. He only had a few good games last year. I’m not saying he’s trash now or anything, but 2021 was a while ago now 

injuries will wreck anyones season.   I think fully healthy he has a shot.   what I dont know is if hes fully healthy.

[gcmmidwest 124]

13 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

injuries will wreck anyones season.   I think fully healthy he has a shot.   what I dont know is if hes fully healthy.

Remember when everyone was crying about how they'd never draft cmac ever again 2-3 years ago then he got healthy 

[weepaws 2,855]

Last year around this time it came out that Kupp as seeking a specialist, haven’t heard that.  I think he’s prime for a big return, his ADP is great, if his ADP Hoover’s right around were it’s at now in late August, he could be my wr1 on my non ppr team. I think Kupp can easily end up top five.  

[Ray_T 691]

4 hours ago, gcmmidwest said:

Remember when everyone was crying about how they'd never draft cmac ever again 2-3 years ago then he got healthy 

exactly my point.

once again..... still dont know if he will get healthy.  but if he does, he could be a draft winner if you get him on the cheap

[Ray_T 691]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

Last year around this time it came out that Kupp as seeking a specialist, haven’t heard that.  I think he’s prime for a big return, his ADP is great, if his ADP Hoover’s right around were it’s at now in late August, he could be my wr1 on my non ppr team. I think Kupp can easily end up top five.  

honestly with the guys build, and skillset hes best cast as a very good #2 WR at this point in his career.

usually your #1 is a physical WR with a nice catch radius who is a coverage nightmare.

Puka is smallish and super fast.    if he figures out how to consistently beat the jam he could be a #1.   I just dont think hes there yet.   sometimes the smallish WR take an extra year or two to figure that part of the game out.

I do think he gets there eventually.   I just dont think its this year.

I still think hes a very good #2   No shame in it.  I'm just not drafting him in my top 15.

[weepaws 2,855]

The season Kupp was injured, he was still avg 14 points per game non ppr. Last season was a set back because he was returning from his injury, and never seemed really right until the latter part of last season.  

I think he has a really good shot at being a top ten wr.  

[defectivesupport 8]

It will be interesting to see if Kupp gets back into form or not.  We have to also consider that with the loss of donald, the defense might not get off the field as much - so the offense might not get as many chances either.  I do like kupps adp a lot more than puka's right now - kupp seems like he could be a similar situation as higgins from cinci or dv smith from phi have been the past few years.  Puka is being drafted as a bonified wr1, which I think is recency bias...and some form of hope that another 2021 kupp season could happen on the rams.  I wouldn't look at him till at least later second round - probably right below where mike evans is being taken.

If I had to predict, I feel that both puka and kupp will get around the 80-100 rec and 1k-1200 yard range, probably trading off big games.  I would say this puts both of them just outside the top 10, or maybe sneaking in at #10 - with puka being the bit higher of the two.   

Speaking of top 10, my list would be Tyreek, AJ brown, Lamb, Chase, Garret Wilson, Mike Evans, Amon-ra, Jefferson, Pickens, Aiyuk.

Dark horses: Khalil Shakir (BUF), Rashid Shaheed (NO).

[Ray_T 691]

well, they both are a good bet for 1000 yards if healthy.

I guess the smart money goes to whoever drops furthers in the draft.   at this point that is looking like Kupp but that can change in a hurry.   its early days of the preseason.

[gcmmidwest 124]

1 hour ago, defectivesupport said:

 

Dark horses: Khalil Shakir (BUF), Rashid Shaheed (NO).

Why Shakir ? I was big on him but kinda wrote him off 

[kilroy69 1,121]

On 6/12/2024 at 6:36 PM, Ray_T said:

the Denver WR were supposed to do this when Wilson arrived in Denver.   Not sure I'd call that a success.   but at the same time Wilson performed better last year.   too little too late to save his job there, but maybe things will be different this time.

To be fair denver was a shittshow and he still had a 26/8 ratio last year and he got benched for financial reasons. With a good team, a good defense and good coaching he is likely to be in the 25-40 td range again. If that happens the most likely person to benifit would be pickins who had 5 tds last year with a terrible qb throwing to him. He could have 15 tds this year.  

[Ray_T 691]

2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

To be fair denver was a shittshow and he still had a 26/8 ratio last year and he got benched for financial reasons. With a good team, a good defense and good coaching he is likely to be in the 25-40 td range again. If that happens the most likely person to benifit would be pickins who had 5 tds last year with a terrible qb throwing to him. He could have 15 tds this year.  

I dont know about financial reasons.   I think it was the slow start to the season that did him in (and the previous years shitshow that was terrible for everyone)

he performed adequately for fantasy.   

that said, it could be a system thing for Wilson.  if the system is right, he can play.   hard to say for sure.   but I still think he an improvement on what they had last year.  so thats good news for the WR in that offense

[kilroy69 1,121]

1 minute ago, Ray_T said:

I dont know about financial reasons.   I think it was the slow start to the season that did him in (and the previous years shitshow that was terrible for everyone)

he performed adequately for fantasy.   

that said, it could be a system thing for Wilson.  if the system is right, he can play.   hard to say for sure.   but I still think he an improvement on what they had last year.  so thats good news for the WR in that offense

The Broncos told him that if he did not remove a clause in his contract guaranteeing him money if he got hurt they would bench him. He didn't and they did. I really think any upgrade at QB would be great for the Wrs there. It was painful to watch Kenny Pickett play qb. I can not even imagine how bad it felt to have him throwing the ball to you.  

[Ray_T 691]

21 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

The Broncos told him that if he did not remove a clause in his contract guaranteeing him money if he got hurt they would bench him. He didn't and they did. I really think any upgrade at QB would be great for the Wrs there. It was painful to watch Kenny Pickett play qb. I can not even imagine how bad it felt to have him throwing the ball to you.  

maybe so, but teams dont do that sort of thing with their starting QB when the they are winning.   It only happens when they are losing.

its really a performance thing no matter how you slice and dice it.   They realized they were not gonna win any superbowls with him there, and paved the way for a Russell Wilson Exit.

either way, hes pro calibre.   the guy hes replacing was not.  so yeah I think the WR perform better.   but Wilson is no spring chicken.  I'm not predicting big things.   just a moderate improvement.

[kilroy69 1,121]

1 minute ago, Ray_T said:

maybe so, but teams dont do that sort of thing with their starting QB when the they are winning.   It only happens when they are losing.

its really a performance thing no matter how you slice and dice it.   They realized they were not gonna win any superbowls with him there, and paved the way for a Russell Wilson Exit.

either way, hes pro calibre.   the guy hes replacing was not.  so yeah I think the WR perform better.   but Wilson is no spring chicken.  I'm not predicting big things.   just a moderate improvement.

I think that sean payton never wanted him. He had it baked into his agreement with the owners that he was cutting bait with him asap in order to clear the cap space and not making it to the superbowl was good enough reason as any to cut him. 

 

Oh for sure he is not going to lead the league in the counting stats suddenly. But a bounce back to 35-40 tds would be huge . Pickens talent was wasted last year by a qb that just could not make the throws. That did not seem to be a problem with wilson last year.   

[Showboat 177]

1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

Oh for sure he is not going to lead the league in the counting stats suddenly. But a bounce back to 35-40 tds would be huge . Pickens talent was wasted last year by a qb that just could not make the throws. That did not seem to be a problem with wilson last year.   

My not-so-bold prediction is that Russ will be benched before the season ends and I'd bet the under on 35 TDs (if I was a gambler).  Carroll worked some magic with a younger Russ - I don't think those days are ever coming back.  

[IGotWorms 3,856]

1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

I think that sean payton never wanted him. He had it baked into his agreement with the owners that he was cutting bait with him asap in order to clear the cap space and not making it to the superbowl was good enough reason as any to cut him. 

 

Oh for sure he is not going to lead the league in the counting stats suddenly. But a bounce back to 35-40 tds would be huge . Pickens talent was wasted last year by a qb that just could not make the throws. That did not seem to be a problem with wilson last year.   

35-40 TDs? For Russ? Highly, highly doubt it.

[defectivesupport 8]

On 6/14/2024 at 11:52 AM, gcmmidwest said:

Why Shakir ? I was big on him but kinda wrote him off 

Shakir had been doing well last year - and did better in games where Gabe wasn't there.  Now Diggs and Gabe are gone - so 240 targets are up for grabs - most of the rec TDs were also these two, so 15/29 TDs are now up for grabs.  The division is also projected to be competitive, so bills should at least have similar amounts of passing downs as last year.  They have added Chase Claypool and Curtis Samuel and drafted Keon Coleman.  This will have some impact for sure, but Claypool hasn't done anything since 2021, Samuel has consistent 50-60% catch rate and Coleman wasn't the most productive last year in college.  Shakir ran very similar routes to diggs - both in the 8 yard range catches.  My guesses for targets (550 last year) are Shakir(130), kincaid (100), Knox(80), Samuel (70), Cook (50), Coleman (50), claypool (30) --- which still leaves 50 targets from last years total.