Mike Honcho 4,794 Posted July 31, 2024 Barry Bonds - career hat size increase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 15 hours ago, MDC said: Without watching the video I’ll say Jerry Rice’s career receiving yards: 22,895. More than 5,000 more than anybody else. 15 hours ago, jerryskids said: Good answer, and I've argued for Rice as the best NFL player ever for this reason (similar to my Rickey Henderson best baseball player ever argument). But... with the way the game has changed, I could see this being challenged. It would take somebody like Larry Fitz who loves/respects the game to do it, and I'm not sure the current crop of Chase/Jeff have it in them to last past their big paydays, but it could be done. 14 hours ago, cyclone24 said: I would think Cy Young, Ripken, whoever has strikeouts, complete games, stolen bases and hits wont. Lebron scoring wont Could see Phelps getting caught. Rice? Doubtful but league is going really pass heavy so maybe I think Rice's number can be beat, it's just a matter of durability. In his first 10 seasons, he had 13,275 yards. At the time, that was insane, but today it's not that amazing. Mike Evans is only 1600 behind that. If Evans plays 10 more seasons like Rice did, he'd have to average 1,122 yards a season to break the record (right now he's averaging 1,168). Over Rice's last 10 seasons, he averaged over 1,113 a season... if you pro-rate that over 17 games a season (by today's league). Note, Jerry Rice's 10th season, he was 32... last year, Evans' 10th season, he was 30. Both eras had their advantages and disadvantages... Rice in the 80's and early 90's had no free agency, so people didn't leave their teams... free agency didn't start until '93 (Rice's 9th season). Today, players have a more pass friendly system and an extra game. Will Evans pass him? I have no idea. I just think that Rice's record is more of a durability record than a production record at this point in time. If you told me that Mike Evans will play 11 more seasons, then I'll say there's a 50/50 chance he breaks Rice's record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,822 Posted July 31, 2024 54 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I think Rice's number can be beat, it's just a matter of durability. In his first 10 seasons, he had 13,275 yards. At the time, that was insane, but today it's not that amazing. Mike Evans is only 1600 behind that. If Evans plays 10 more seasons like Rice did, he'd have to average 1,122 yards a season to break the record (right now he's averaging 1,168). Over Rice's last 10 seasons, he averaged over 1,113 a season... if you pro-rate that over 17 games a season (by today's league). Note, Jerry Rice's 10th season, he was 32... last year, Evans' 10th season, he was 30. Both eras had their advantages and disadvantages... Rice in the 80's and early 90's had no free agency, so people didn't leave their teams... free agency didn't start until '93 (Rice's 9th season). Today, players have a more pass friendly system and an extra game. Will Evans pass him? I have no idea. I just think that Rice's record is more of a durability record than a production record at this point in time. If you told me that Mike Evans will play 11 more seasons, then I'll say there's a 50/50 chance he breaks Rice's record. Longevity and durability is why I don’t think Rice’s record will be broken. A lot of HOF caliber receivers have had a first 10 years on par with Rice. Nobody has had the type of next 10 years that Rice did and I don’t think anyone ever will again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mufaletta 41 Posted July 31, 2024 2,632 Cal Ripken Jr is really the only one that can never be beat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,663 Posted July 31, 2024 All records will eventually be broken. Rule changes, adding games to the season, and technology will be the major contributing factors. people thoughts that no one would ever break be Bruce homer run record. Breaking Paul Horning’s scoring record in the NFL took decades and 4 additional games to break. Quote Hornung led the league in scoring for three straight seasons from 1959–61. During the 1960 season, the last with just 12 games, he set an all-time record by scoring176 points. Hornung also passed for two additional touchdowns, which did not add to his point-scoring total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,476 Posted July 31, 2024 Pete Rose hits and Nolan Ryan K’s were not on this list? Those are never getting broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 11 minutes ago, MDC said: Longevity and durability is why I don’t think Rice’s record will be broken. A lot of HOF caliber receivers have had a first 10 years on par with Rice. Nobody has had the type of next 10 years that Rice did and I don’t think anyone ever will again. I think that's fair, but I do think that with the knowledge we have with keeping yourself healthy, there's going to be people who are able to play 15 years or so, and produce the numbers Rice did because of the state of the game and the fact that they play 17 games and 18 sounds like it's on the horizon. Rice, for the bulk of his career, was a volume guy, not a big play guy. His first 5 seasons he was a "go out and I'll heave it down field to you" guy where he averaged like 18 yards per reception. His last 15 though, he only averaged 13.7. He was a big possession type guy, for that era, and they used him for that... that's partly why he was able to play for 20 years. That's the type of guy Mike Evans is, and he's at 15.3 yards per catch. Through his first 10 seasons, he's played in only 2 less games. CeeDee Lamb is also the same kind of receiver that Rice and was. He's at 13 ypr and through their first 66 games, Rice is only 400 yards ahead of him. Like with Evans, Lamb is 2+ years younger than Rice. Neither have to play into their 40's, like Rice did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: All records will eventually be broken. Rule changes, adding games to the season, and technology will be the major contributing factors. people thoughts that no one would ever break be Bruce homer run record. Breaking Paul Horning’s scoring record in the NFL took decades and 4 additional games to break. For football, I agree... not baseball though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,822 Posted July 31, 2024 41 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I think that's fair, but I do think that with the knowledge we have with keeping yourself healthy, there's going to be people who are able to play 15 years or so, and produce the numbers Rice did because of the state of the game and the fact that they play 17 games and 18 sounds like it's on the horizon. Rice, for the bulk of his career, was a volume guy, not a big play guy. His first 5 seasons he was a "go out and I'll heave it down field to you" guy where he averaged like 18 yards per reception. His last 15 though, he only averaged 13.7. He was a big possession type guy, for that era, and they used him for that... that's partly why he was able to play for 20 years. That's the type of guy Mike Evans is, and he's at 15.3 yards per catch. Through his first 10 seasons, he's played in only 2 less games. CeeDee Lamb is also the same kind of receiver that Rice and was. He's at 13 ypr and through their first 66 games, Rice is only 400 yards ahead of him. Like with Evans, Lamb is 2+ years younger than Rice. Neither have to play into their 40's, like Rice did. I’ll believe it when I see it. TO had a 1,000 yard season at age 35 and he’s still almost 7,000 yards behind Rice. Any WR who’s going to come close will need to be immediately elite, durable and play at a high level until he’s nearly 40. Would be something to witness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,335 Posted July 31, 2024 17 hours ago, bostonlager said: 4256 2632 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 1 minute ago, MDC said: I’ll believe it when I see it. TO had a 1,000 yard season at age 35 and he’s still almost 7,000 yards behind Rice. Any WR who’s going to come close will need to be immediately elite, durable and play at a high level until he’s nearly 40. Would be something to witness. Oh, I get that, I just think it's inevitable... not unbreakable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,335 Posted July 31, 2024 16 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: But your mom bigly is. 15 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Overwhelmed by the number of lame, useless-as-teets-on-a-chicken posts you've ever made here, not a single one of them worthy of holding my jock strap or scooping a cat box. Sad. 15 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Case in point. You've been bug-crushed. Again. Just this little thing I squish under my intellectual boot day after day. Go play with your dolls, drink some hot coco and head to bed, boyo. Give your blow-up doll a break, lest you pop her. 15 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Sick burn, pine nut. Go to bed. 15 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Ah, another creep Internet stalk of a blog for which I haven't contributed to in years. Obsess much, old man, as you waste your retirement spending all day here stewing in your misguided, ignorant sociopolitical juices? Lawd, you make me laugh! 15 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Nah, you only have so many teef left after this curb stomping. I'm going to do something more meaningful with my evening. Just stopping by to add my usual seasonings of humor and intellect to send you MAGAbugs scurrying. Have a great night! Proud of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,794 Posted July 31, 2024 34 minutes ago, MDC said: I’ll believe it when I see it. TO had a 1,000 yard season at age 35 and he’s still almost 7,000 yards behind Rice. Any WR who’s going to come close will need to be immediately elite, durable and play at a high level until he’s nearly 40. Would be something to witness. 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Oh, I get that, I just think it's inevitable... not unbreakable. I'm going to bump this thread at the end of time and one of you is going to have to admit defeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,662 Posted July 31, 2024 4 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: 2632 Kids and players today are too lazy and soft to even get half way to this number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm going to bump this thread at the end of time and one of you is going to have to admit defeat. LOL I think he and I are on the same page as this simply being a discussion, not an argument or one saying you're wrong / I'm right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,822 Posted July 31, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm going to bump this thread at the end of time and one of you is going to have to admit defeat. Never. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,335 Posted July 31, 2024 Just now, bostonlager said: Kids and players today are too lazy and soft to even get half way to this number. Crossing sports but it's why I couldn't support NBA players taking games off due to "load management". Players are too soft nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,794 Posted July 31, 2024 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: LOL I think he and I are on the same page as this simply being a discussion, not an argument or one saying you're wrong / I'm right. I need resolution! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 10 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: 2632 5 minutes ago, bostonlager said: Kids and players today are too lazy and soft to even get half way to this number. I was at game #2132 in Cleveland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I need resolution! 11 years!! Let's GO Mike!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,409 Posted July 31, 2024 5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Crossing sports but it's why I couldn't support NBA players taking games off due to "load management". Players are too soft nowadays. Yup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 273 Posted August 1, 2024 Longest TD in NFL History: Cordarrelle Patterson had a 109 yd kickoff return TD - that can be equaled, but impossible to break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,284 Posted August 1, 2024 I think losing four super bowls in a row is safe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 46 Posted August 1, 2024 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I think losing four super bowls in a row is safe. FU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,284 Posted August 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, MikeMatt said: FU You not remembering any of them also safe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,790 Posted August 1, 2024 Bobby Bonilla, most game checks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites