Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
IndyColtsFan

Draft Dodger Donald ducked military duty five times with daddy's help

Recommended Posts

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html

Quote

For 50 years, the details of how the exemption came about, and who made the diagnosis, have remained a mystery, with Mr. Trump himself saying during the presidential campaign that he could not recall who had signed off on the medical documentation.

Now a possible explanation has emerged about the documentation. It involves a foot doctor in Queens who rented his office from Mr. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump, and a suggestion that the diagnosis was granted as a courtesy to the elder Mr. Trump.

 

Bone spurs my ass!

🤣

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jump.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said:

Dodging and deferring: Trump wasn’t the only POTUS to avoid the draft

Jan 21, 2021
 

3QP6RMELWRDLRDBESTOKNS64P4.jpg

It is quite appropriate and important that on the day of the inauguration, the new president, Joseph Biden, and three of his four immediate predecessors visited Arlington Cemetery where many of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country are laid to rest.

In addition to honoring these brave men and women, I hope that President Biden and former presidents Bush and Clinton reflected on the fact that some who are buried at Arlington are there because they — like Trump — avoided being drafted in 1968. Therefore, someone who probably could not afford college, or have the background or connections, had to go into the Army.

Bill Clinton received educational deferments from 1963 to 1968 so that he could attend Georgetown, and after graduating, accept a Rhodes scholarship to attend Oxford. However, in 1968, when the law that allowed men to receive deferments even for graduate or law school was changed, Clinton received his draft notice. But, to avoid being drafted in 1968, Bill Clinton used his connections to get permission to join the ROTC at the University of Arkansas law school. This permitted him to avoid the draft and allowed him to return to Oxford to complete his master’s. Moreover, in 1969 when he was returning from England, President Nixon instituted a draft lottery. When Clinton received a number that would have ensured that he would not be selected, he reneged on the commitment to join the ROTC with no penalty.

After graduating from Yale in 1968, President George W. Bush used his family connections to allow him to enlist in the Texas Air National Guard for a six-year stint as a pilot. He did this because it became clear that President Johnson would not activate the Guard to go to Vietnam but would rely instead on the active forces to fight that bloody conflict. Therefore, it became almost impossible to get into the Guard in 1968, especially for someone like Bush who had a low score (in the 25th percentile) on the pilot test, and also had an arrest record. Moreover, in Bush’s last two years, his attendance at Guard meetings dropped off, he lost his pilot certification but, unlike most of these, he was not recalled to active duty.

Biden not only received deferments for his undergraduate days at the University of Delaware, but for three years of law school at Syracuse University. When his education deferments expired in 1968, Biden requested a deferment based on the fact he had asthma as a teenager. He did this in spite of the fact that, according to his own book, he was a star athlete in high school and in college played intramural sports and was a lifeguard in the summer.

By having someone else go to Vietnam instead of them, these three presidents were also able to use the two years that they would have had to spend in the military to begin the careers that launched them to the White House. Clinton parlayed his Rhodes scholarship into admission into Yale Law School, which is among the most competitive law schools in the country, running for Congress and becoming attorney general of Arkansas about seven years after he avoided service, something he could not have done had he had to divert his career by spending time in the military before attending law school.

During his time in the Guard, Bush not only did not deploy but missed several weekend drills while going to Harvard Business School and working on the campaigns of at least one senator.

As soon as he received his asthma deferment, Biden ran for local office and within two years after he would have been discharged from the Army, assuming he was not wounded or killed, he was elected to the Senate.

I wish that these three men had had parents like my dad. When I took my draft physical, I was told that I needed to get a waiver to go into the service because I had polio when I was 9 years old. My dad told me that we did not have deferments in our house and did I think because I was the first in my family to go to college that I was better than the paper boy (who tragically was killed in Vietnam)? Moreover, my younger brother was also drafted and sent to Vietnam a couple of years after me.

In one of the Democratic political debates, Congressman Seth Moulton, D-Mass., said something that I wish these three presidents would think about as they went to Arlington: “I’d like to meet that American hero who went to Vietnam in Donald Trump’s place. I hope he is still alive.”

Lawrence Korb a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress served as an assistant secretary of defense in the Regan administration. He served four years on active duty as a naval flight officer and retired from the Navy Reserve with the rank of captain.

Editor’s note: This is an Op-Ed and as such, the opinions expressed are those of the author. If you would like to respond, or have an editorial of your own you would like to submit, please contact Military Times managing editor Howard Altman, haltman@militarytimes.com.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At least he never lied about it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

At least he never lied about it. 

I never knew he truthfully told people he faked bones spurs to get out of the draft, with the diagnosis from a doctor who was renting from Trump's daddy.

Yup yup yup.

NO LYING THERE!

🤣

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lying comes with being a politician, Blue team, Red team, both promised to do so. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Focking rusty. The article even says maybe a possible answer. This whole thing is nonsense. If you let your kid get drafted to Vietnam to fight in another war we lied our way into and didn’t do everything possible to prevent that you have bad parents 

Now a possible explanation hasemerged about the documentation
 

that’s as bad as someone close to someone who knows someone close to the source 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He had part of his ear blown off by a left wing assassin while in defense of American values.  Donated his salary to great causes as President  I’d consider Trump having more than done enough to serve our country.    Anyone that dares bring this up at this point is a 🧌 and a 🤡.  

  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Never should have been in Vietnam.  If JFK lived I think we would have pulled out.  we accomplished nothing & lost 50,000 young men.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Today I learned:

Quote

 

Bone spurs are bony growths that form along bone edges. They're also called osteophytes. Bone spurs often form where bones meet each other — in the joints. They also can form on the bones of the spine.

The main cause of bone spurs is the joint damage linked with the most common type of arthritis. This is called osteoarthritis. Bone spurs often cause no symptoms. You might not notice them, and your healthcare team might not happen to find them for years. Bone spurs might not need treatment. If treatment is needed, it depends on where spurs are located and how they affect your health.

 

 Mike's promise is true again.  "Off-Topic at it's best! Hang out and meet some geeks... you just might learn something."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Today I learned:

 Mike's promise is true again.  "Off-Topic at it's best! Hang out and meet some geeks... you just might learn something."

Hasn't seemed to work for you I guess. Sucks. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said:

I never knew he truthfully told people he faked bones spurs to get out of the draft, with the diagnosis from a doctor who was renting from Trump's daddy.

Yup yup yup.

NO LYING THERE!

🤣

He never untruthfully told people he went to war, when he didn't. 

That would be shameful and automatically disqualify someone from higher office. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, shadrap said:

Never should have been in Vietnam.  If JFK lived I think we would have pulled out.  we accomplished nothing & lost 50,000 young men.

How many were white?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, edjr said:

How many were white?

86%

From Google search:

During the Vietnam War (1964–1975), the racial composition of soldiers who died was 86% Caucasian, 12.5% Black, and 1.2% other races. This was similar to the percentage of Black people in the U.S. population at the time, and slightly lower than the percentage of Black people in the Army at the end of the war.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×