jonnyutah 223 Posted August 30 2 hours ago, purdygood said: I never said that. All i'm saying is the reason they are so desperate to "illegally cross the border" is because they are fine doing the jobs you don't want to do for cheap. Because it's a better life than where they are currently living. Fine then. Build that wall and clean your own toilets, mow your own lawn, be your own sous chef, pick your own fruit. I never said that, i just said that! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 223 Posted August 30 Omg the horror if we didnt have cheap strawberries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,757 Posted August 30 12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Because the vast majority don’t commit violent crimes and we do need them. If you put your money where your mouth is and took in a family of migrants. Lets say 5. And they told you these are really good people. Well besides 1, they were in MS 13. Would you say hey sure! Bring em in? Or would you say no thank you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 13 hours ago, squistion said: Bad Hombres? A phrase that exists in neither English or Spanish. Let the blatant racism continue. THAT’S your take on this story?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,757 Posted August 30 12 hours ago, purdygood said: I never said that. All i'm saying is the reason they are so desperate to "illegally cross the border" is because they are fine doing the jobs you don't want to do for cheap. Because it's a better life than where they are currently living. Fine then. Build that wall and clean your own toilets, mow your own lawn, be your own sous chef, pick your own fruit. Im a man. A heterosexual man. So yes I mow my own lawn and clean my own toilet. Is that above you? Or are you just not capable of starting a mower? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 11 hours ago, HellToupee said: Race again and it’s funny you quote a guy that exploits the cheap labor of our new arrivals I wonder what Tim does when one gets injured on his job site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,757 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: THAT’S your take on this story?!?! That guy has to be a troll. He cannot be real. Is this how people are in Liberal cities? I cant find people like this where I live. I tend to just assume these cant be real people and just acts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: That guy has to be a troll. He cannot be real. Is this how people are in Liberal cities? I cant find people like this where I live. I tend to just assume these cant be real people and just acts. It’s real. He’s the male version of this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted August 30 20 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Im a man. A heterosexual man. So yes I mow my own lawn and clean my own toilet. Is that above you? Or are you just not capable of starting a mower? Ditto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted August 30 27 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: THAT’S your take on this story?!?! Pretending something is racist is a goto move for some, pretending anything around words is our problem is why things go south....its a focus on the irrelevant.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted August 30 25 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: I wonder what Tim does when one gets injured on his job site? I would like to think he has the decency to at least dump them in the emergency room parking lot but you never know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted August 30 12 hours ago, weepaws said: trump is a liberal, I’ll pass, I don’t vote liberal, HTH. This year satan is in the ballot and it’s sad to see you choose darkness over light . You can’t abstain from making a choice, without knowing it you are in league with the devil. Sad to see you go down this path weepy. Real sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This year satan is in the ballot and it’s sad to see you choose darkness over light . You can’t abstain from making a choice, without knowing it you are in league with the devil. Sad to see you go down this path weepy. Real sad. Some should never forget 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted August 30 5 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I would like to think he has the decency to at least dump them in the emergency room parking lot but you never know FTR (though I’ve explained this many times before) I hire people I presume to be undocumented immigrants maybe twice a year for a couple of hours to perform specific tasks. So this question has never come up. If somebody got hurt I would certainly do what I could to help as I would with any vendor. But these are independent contractors. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted August 30 36 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: If you put your money where your mouth is and took in a family of migrants. Lets say 5. And they told you these are really good people. Well besides 1, they were in MS 13. Would you say hey sure! Bring em in? Or would you say no thank you? Good idea. He should take in 5 young Venezuelan men . Eager to work , just looking for a better life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: FTR (though I’ve explained this many times before) I hire people I presume to be undocumented immigrants maybe twice a year for a couple of hours to perform specific tasks. So this question has never come up. If somebody got hurt I would certainly do what I could to help as I would with any vendor. But these are independent contractors. So would you at least wrap the poor hombre in a tarp before disposal? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 Back to the original story. So was this like a modern day stagecoach raid by child traffickers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,656 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Pretending something is racist is a goto move for some, pretending anything around words is our problem is why things go south....its a focus on the irrelevant.... It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, squistion said: It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again. Are you salty these patriots thwarted a fresh stash of kids going to child traffickers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted August 30 They love Latin X though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted August 30 33 minutes ago, squistion said: It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again. Its not racist......its as stupid term....calling it racist is inane, and really sorta nasty to those who have suffered under real racism,.,,,,so its worse than just wasting time on meaningless drivel.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,241 Posted August 30 19 minutes ago, RLLD said: Its not racist......its as stupid term....calling it racist is inane, and really sorta nasty to those who have suffered under real racism,.,,,,so its worse than just wasting time on meaningless drivel.... Squissy is El loco coontzo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,656 Posted August 30 19 minutes ago, RLLD said: Its not racist......its as stupid term....calling it racist is inane, and really sorta nasty to those who have suffered under real racism,.,,,,so its worse than just wasting time on meaningless drivel.... Latinos find it offensive, racist, and pejorative - so I will take their word for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, squistion said: Latinos find it offensive, racist, and pejorative - so I will take their word for it. But not Latin X. They have to live with that whether they like it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 24 Posted August 30 10 minutes ago, squistion said: Latinos find it offensive, racist, and pejorative - so I will take their word for it. I don’t give a rats ass about people looking for reasons to be offended. The WORDS weren’t used with racial intent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, squistion said: It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again. You're incapable of research. It's a band name, restaurant chain and a movie but you think someone on twitter found it offensive that that's research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted August 30 3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: If you put your money where your mouth is and took in a family of migrants. Lets say 5. And they told you these are really good people. Well besides 1, they were in MS 13. Would you say hey sure! Bring em in? Or would you say no thank you? He won't answer this question. He never does because it proves his hypocrisy. That's why the "it should be your daughter" references ring so true. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,656 Posted August 30 Just now, blick said: I don’t give a rats ass about people looking for reasons to be offended. The WORDS weren’t used with racial intent. They certainly were when Trump first used that phrase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 192 Posted August 30 2 minutes ago, squistion said: They certainly were when Trump first used that phrase. Mudo Hombre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted August 30 2 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: He won't answer this question. He never does because it's proves his hypocrisy. That's why the "it should be your daughter" references ring true. You gotta love how fake offended they get when it’s suggested even hypothetically that it should be their kids that deal with the results of what they support. I stand by my statements. I wish it were anyone who supports the open border and lax enforcement of laws kid that was a victim than someone who doesn’t. Those people can Fock off. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 24 Posted August 30 6 minutes ago, squistion said: They certainly were when Trump first used that phrase. This is just not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, squistion said: It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again. BS once again from you . Go out and find some compromised site that backs up your inane claim Bad hombre It's a bilingual way of saying "bad man" (the word "hombre" means "man" in Spanish). Squissy falsely claims that it's a racial slur. I would argue that it's not a racial slur, because it insults someone for the content of their character, not for their race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,656 Posted August 30 Just now, blick said: This is just not true. Yes it is. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-bad-hombres-draws-jeers-spanish-lessons To some, Trump’s ‘bad hombres’ is much more than a botched Spanish word PHOENIX — Donald Trump’s utterance of “bad hombres” offended some of the millions of people watching the final presidential debate, who called it racially divisive. Within minutes of using the phrase Wednesday evening, the Republican presidential nominee was getting a lashing about his mishmash of English and Spanish. “We have some bad hombres here, and we’re gonna get ’em out,” said Trump, whose rise to the party nomination was fueled in part by his plan to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border. He blamed these “hombres,” (OHM-brays) Spanish for men, for drug epidemics around the U.S. Trump has worked to broaden his appeal to Hispanics, promising a better life if he’s president. But to some voters, it’s a lost cause. Taylor Brandreth watched the debate while visiting in Bradenton, Florida. He backed Trump in the primary in Virginia, where he works as a government consultant, but that was mainly to block Sen. Marco Rubio from clinching the GOP nomination. Now he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter, and it’s largely because of what he considers Trump’s racially divisive tactics, including the use of “Spanglish.” “I speak Spanish fluently. I have to honestly say, listening to it, my jaw just instantly dropped because it was like a taunt,” said Brandreth, 27. “There was nothing good in the context. It was like, ‘Let me say something awful and racist and let me butcher this other language while I’m doing it.'” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,254 Posted August 30 11 minutes ago, squistion said: They certainly were when Trump first used that phrase. There you go again. Another lie/falsehood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, squistion said: Yes it is. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-bad-hombres-draws-jeers-spanish-lessons To some, Trump’s ‘bad hombres’ is much more than a botched Spanish word PHOENIX — Donald Trump’s utterance of “bad hombres” offended some of the millions of people watching the final presidential debate, who called it racially divisive. Within minutes of using the phrase Wednesday evening, the Republican presidential nominee was getting a lashing about his mishmash of English and Spanish. “We have some bad hombres here, and we’re gonna get ’em out,” said Trump, whose rise to the party nomination was fueled in part by his plan to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border. He blamed these “hombres,” (OHM-brays) Spanish for men, for drug epidemics around the U.S. Trump has worked to broaden his appeal to Hispanics, promising a better life if he’s president. But to some voters, it’s a lost cause. Taylor Brandreth watched the debate while visiting in Bradenton, Florida. He backed Trump in the primary in Virginia, where he works as a government consultant, but that was mainly to block Sen. Marco Rubio from clinching the GOP nomination. Now he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter, and it’s largely because of what he considers Trump’s racially divisive tactics, including the use of “Spanglish.” “I speak Spanish fluently. I have to honestly say, listening to it, my jaw just instantly dropped because it was like a taunt,” said Brandreth, 27. “There was nothing good in the context. It was like, ‘Let me say something awful and racist and let me butcher this other language while I’m doing it.'” Taylor Brandreth. Sounds Spanish. So sorry a guy named Taylor was offended for Spanish people. Hope he’s ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,436 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: PBS GTFO I laughed at that as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 24 Posted August 30 32 minutes ago, squistion said: Yes it is. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-bad-hombres-draws-jeers-spanish-lessons To some, Trump’s ‘bad hombres’ is much more than a botched Spanish word PHOENIX — Donald Trump’s utterance of “bad hombres” offended some of the millions of people watching the final presidential debate, who called it racially divisive. Within minutes of using the phrase Wednesday evening, the Republican presidential nominee was getting a lashing about his mishmash of English and Spanish. “We have some bad hombres here, and we’re gonna get ’em out,” said Trump, whose rise to the party nomination was fueled in part by his plan to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border. He blamed these “hombres,” (OHM-brays) Spanish for men, for drug epidemics around the U.S. Trump has worked to broaden his appeal to Hispanics, promising a better life if he’s president. But to some voters, it’s a lost cause. Taylor Brandreth watched the debate while visiting in Bradenton, Florida. He backed Trump in the primary in Virginia, where he works as a government consultant, but that was mainly to block Sen. Marco Rubio from clinching the GOP nomination. Now he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter, and it’s largely because of what he considers Trump’s racially divisive tactics, including the use of “Spanglish.” “I speak Spanish fluently. I have to honestly say, listening to it, my jaw just instantly dropped because it was like a taunt,” said Brandreth, 27. “There was nothing good in the context. It was like, ‘Let me say something awful and racist and let me butcher this other language while I’m doing it.'” I stand by my original statement that I don’t give a rats ass about someone looking for a reason to be offended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,656 Posted August 30 13 minutes ago, blick said: I stand by my original statement that I don’t give a rats ass about someone looking for a reason to be offended. They didn't have look very hard for a reason to be offended here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,928 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, squistion said: Latinos find it offensive, racist, and pejorative - so I will take their word for it. Which ones? Do those individuals now speak for all? If I find your handle here offensive, can force you to then stop using it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites