gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 4, 2024 Trying to get ahead of the waiver ...any of these WR prospects lQQk enticing? 1) Jermaine Burton Cin. Chase may sit 2)Treylon Burks .. they traded AJ Brown for this bum? Watch him break out 3) Tyler Boyd ... Hopkins probably out for a few games may produce with a new team Who's on your Radar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RareN64Dream 21 Posted September 4, 2024 Treylon Burks is still pretty young; he is age 24. Tyler Boyd is age 29. Both on Titans. I think, Burton is pretty young also; around Burks age. I probably would pick Boyd out of those 3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 4, 2024 The more I study I'm liking Burton.... How is Kalif Raymond 0% owned thought he came on late last season with amon getting doubled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 919 Posted September 4, 2024 My 14th rd pick... Michael Wilson - probably the 3rd banana in ARI targets. Hyped talent out of college, and apparently Cards believed taking him with a 3rd last year. We'll see if he takes a step forward in second year as Cards #2 wideout. Only 20% rostered. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:02 AM, GobbleDog said: My 14th rd pick... Michael Wilson - probably the 3rd banana in ARI targets. Hyped talent out of college, and apparently Cards believed taking him with a 3rd last year. We'll see if he takes a step forward in second year as Cards #2 wideout. Only 20% rostered. Is he better then dortch? Will find out soon enough because they play the bills and we'll find out what Harrison is made of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 919 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:21 AM, gcmmidwest said: Is he better then dortch? Will find out soon enough because they play the bills and we'll find out what Harrison is made of I honestly don't know, but hope so. Dortch is 5'7" (my 14 yo daughter is taller than that) and was undrafted out of Wake Forest. Entering his 4th year, so draft status doesn't mean much at this point, but ... I tend to think a 3rd rd pick out of Stanford who's the size of a full grown man has a bit more talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 How about M Mims with the Broncos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 58 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 3:02 AM, GobbleDog said: My 14th rd pick... Michael Wilson - probably the 3rd banana in ARI targets. Hyped talent out of college, and apparently Cards believed taking him with a 3rd last year. We'll see if he takes a step forward in second year as Cards #2 wideout. Only 20% rostered. First I'll.say Michael Wilson is better than Dortch, IMO. QB Murray is healthy. Marvelous Marvin will always draw.double coverage. TE McBride will work the middle and Wilson outside. Wilson will definitely outperform his ADP and will have the 2nd best receiving stats other Cardinals by season's end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 473 Posted September 4, 2024 I guess you can always hope that Treylon Burks will finally break out and live up to his draft slot. It happens, but with each passing season, gets less and less likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 11:39 AM, polecatt said: I guess you can always hope that Treylon Burks will finally break out and live up to his draft slot. It happens, but with each passing season, gets less and less likely Hear ya there's always a couple Cinderella wr's that make a name for themselves... I'm on a quest to find out who that is ..., Malachi Corley ...arod can make anybody a star ...could be the next puka 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotisserieking 56 Posted September 4, 2024 After seeing him being 'mentored' somewhat by Deebo in Receivers, I'm liking Xavier Legette as a deep sleeper. Positives: Good size, good hands, and great route running. Negative: Bryce Young. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 35 Posted September 4, 2024 Romeo Doubs is being slept on, could be the WR1 in GB. 3rd WR in LAR, Demarcus Robinson, but I really like Jordan Wittington as a deep sleeper Andres Iosivas (sp) in CIN has a hold on that 3rd WR spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IN$TANT REPAY 11 Posted September 4, 2024 The X-Man Xavier Legette Best Panthers WR - Size and Speed -------------------------------- *Soiloist Approved It's a tip! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 102 Posted September 4, 2024 Adonai Mitchell - a lot to learn but all the measurable s are there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 4, 2024 I'll add a RB one Gus Edwards feels like a good dark horse candidate to me. Just using PFF rankings he sits at the #36 running back. He is going to be the starter on a team with a good quarterback and in a Greg Roman offense that he knows and we know Roman loves to run the football. But case in point why I think he is a dark horse. Take a look at these three stat lines from 2023: Player A: 219 carries, 1015 rushing yards, 13 touchdowns, 24 targets, 16 catches, 117 receiving yards- 207.2 fantasy points. Player B: 255 carries, 1035 rushing yards, 8 touchdowns, 38 targets, 29 catches, 170 receiving yards- 195.5 fantasy points Player 198 carries, 810 rushing yards, 13 touchdowns, 13 targets, 12 catches, 180 receiving yards- 187 fantasy points. I'll spoiler tag for anyone who wants to guess along: Reveal hidden contents Player A is David Montgomery who is the 21st ranked running back. Player B is Najee Harris who is the 27th ranked and Player C is Edwards.....Why is Montgomery going 15 spots higher? Why is Harris going 8 spots higher? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 Edwards had good stats playing on a good team. Now he’s not a good team. He was drafted in both of my leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 2:06 PM, DrG said: Adonai Mitchell - a lot to learn but all the measurable s are there. Like him, don’t like his Qb in passing situations 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 599 Posted September 4, 2024 Chargers have a very good Oline. Gus should run the bus... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 132 Posted September 4, 2024 The Black Stallion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defectivesupport 8 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 4:06 AM, weepaws said: How about M Mims with the Broncos. Yea I agree that Mims has a chance to be a top WR - payton just didn't use him a ton last year. If that was to ease him into the nfl and he gets volume this year, he should provide good value. Mims stats: 38% possible plays on field, returns kicks, 10.5 YBC, 7 YAC 15ADOT - even if you assume these number drop a bit with more targets - he would still be in line to match the top faster WR numbers. The other one in a similar situation is Tre Tucker (LV). 34% possible plays on field: 16YBC, 18.5 ADOT. Minshew last year threw to tuckers range with 55% accuracy in 183/490 attempts while raiders QBs last year only attempted 73/541 at the longer range. Obviously Adams and Meyers are in LV, but they both are more of possession WR. If they get tucker more involved with Minshew at the helm - tucker could see some really good numbers as he'll rarely be doubled. Its all about if these guys get more volume this year, but Mims has a more direct line to more volume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 4:36 PM, weepaws said: Edwards had good stats playing on a good team. Now he’s not a good team. He was drafted in both of my leagues. The Chargers will be a borderline playoff team and will run the ball a ton. Of course he was drafted. He is in pretty much all leagues but I am talking about where he is being drafted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,165 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 2:45 AM, gcmmidwest said: The more I study I'm liking Burton.... How is Kalif Raymond 0% owned thought he came on late last season with amon getting doubled I would guess that people expect JAMO to step up this year and take that spot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 8:45 PM, Sean Mooney said: The Chargers will be a borderline playoff team and will run the ball a ton. Of course he was drafted. He is in pretty much all leagues but I am talking about where he is being drafted I think he belongs in the rb#3 value range , I don’t see a playoff team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 8:46 PM, kilroy69 said: I would guess that people expect JAMO to step up this year and take that spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 4, 2024 This chat about Edwards, made me look into their rb situation, I think Edwards is going to have a lot of company when it comes to their running game. From reports, Dobbins looks explosive and the best he has looked in some time. I hope For is sake he can return, and if so I Edwards isn’t a slam dunk rb1, and never has been. I think his rb3 adp is perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 11:11 PM, weepaws said: This chat about Edwards, made me look into their rb situation, I think Edwards is going to have a lot of company when it comes to their running game. From reports, Dobbins looks explosive and the best he has looked in some time. I hope For is sake he can return, and if so I Edwards isn’t a slam dunk rb1, and never has been. I think his rb3 adp is perfect. The idea is about finding guys who might be undervalued. Edwards is undervalued right now. Yes if a bunch of things go wrong he may not be. But that is a lot of "ifs" you are betting on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 152 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 8:13 PM, defectivesupport said: Yea I agree that Mims has a chance to be a top WR - payton just didn't use him a ton last year. If that was to ease him into the nfl and he gets volume this year, he should provide good value. Mims stats: 38% possible plays on field, returns kicks, 10.5 YBC, 7 YAC 15ADOT - even if you assume these number drop a bit with more targets - he would still be in line to match the top faster WR numbers. The other one in a similar situation is Tre Tucker (LV). 34% possible plays on field: 16YBC, 18.5 ADOT. Minshew last year threw to tuckers range with 55% accuracy in 183/490 attempts while raiders QBs last year only attempted 73/541 at the longer range. Obviously Adams and Meyers are in LV, but they both are more of possession WR. If they get tucker more involved with Minshew at the helm - tucker could see some really good numbers as he'll rarely be doubled. Its all about if these guys get more volume this year, but Mims has a more direct line to more volume. and Denver got rid of the super awesome Jerry Judy for a reason. Mims Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 152 Posted September 5, 2024 I took a late ppr flyer on former WR now RB Tyrone Tracy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 2:16 AM, Sean Mooney said: The idea is about finding guys who might be undervalued. Edwards is undervalued right now. Yes if a bunch of things go wrong he may not be. But that is a lot of "ifs" you are betting on. He’s not undervalued, his adp is rb3, perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 4:57 AM, weepaws said: He’s not undervalued, his adp is rb3, perfect. Dude- you obviously read my posts. I made the point that he is undervalued compared to where other guys with similar numbers are going. David Montgomery is a #2 with 1.4 points weekly difference. Najee Harris is a full round or two higher. You are trying to miss the point at this juncture. Please stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 11:33 AM, Sean Mooney said: Dude- you obviously read my posts. I made the point that he is undervalued compared to where other guys with similar numbers are going. David Montgomery is a #2 with 1.4 points weekly difference. Najee Harris is a full round or two higher. You are trying to miss the point at this juncture. Please stop Not missing your point, I’m saying your wrong. Montgomery was 16 in avg per game PPR, his avg was 14:8 Harris was 31st. Avg was 11:6 Edwards was 33rd. Avg was 11:1. Edwards no longer playing on the Ravens, not playing on a super bowl contender, has other RBs to compete with, Will not score13 rush tds , has never had more than 200 rush attempts in the nfl. I think Harris is a little over ranked, but Edwards is ranked has a low rb3, and that’s perfect for him. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 3:52 PM, weepaws said: Not missing your point, I’m saying your wrong. Montgomery was 16 in avg per game PPR, his avg was 14:8 Harris was 31st. Avg was 11:6 Edwards was 33rd. Avg was 11:1. Edwards no longer playing on the Ravens, not playing on a super bowl contender, has other RBs to compete with, Will not score13 rush tds , has never had more than 200 rush attempts in the nfl. I think Harris is a little over ranked, but Edwards is ranked has a low rb3, and that’s perfect for him. Thanks You are missing the point. In addition- Montgomery will have a split as well with Jahymr Gibbs expected to take on a bigger role. The point is- Montgomery is not 16 spots better than Edwards and his ADP is out of whack quite a bit. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 3:58 PM, Sean Mooney said: You are missing the point. In addition- Montgomery will have a split as well with Jahymr Gibbs expected to take on a bigger role. The point is- Montgomery is not 16 spots better than Edwards and his ADP is out of whack quite a bit. Thanks Yes he is. Ps, it’s great that we disagree, don’t let it bother you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,816 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 4:03 PM, weepaws said: Yes he is. Ps, it’s great that we disagree, don’t let it bother you. I wish you would've had the guts to do a fantasy league last year. You and Axe Elf got challenged by people and ran away from it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 5, 2024 We're all here to learn ..better to work with each other instead of against each over ... Love one another that's the greatest command... We will find out what's what soon enough...until then enjoy the ride 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 722 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 2:13 AM, gcmmidwest said: 1) Jermaine Burton Cin. Chase may sit apparently the bengals are real high on this Iosivas kid who is WR3 on the depth chart. so much so that they were debating letting higgins walk. if picking a serious dark horse this is the guy. Nobody would have drafted him and significant upside. Though admittedly I think his max upside is around 700 yards unless an injury to Higgins or Chase keeps them out for more than a couple games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 147 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 4:34 PM, Ray_T said: apparently the bengals are real high on this Iosivas kid who is WR3 on the depth chart. so much so that they were debating letting higgins walk. if picking a serious dark horse this is the guy. Nobody would have drafted him and significant upside. Though admittedly I think his max upside is around 700 yards unless an injury to Higgins or Chase keeps them out for more than a couple games. What happened with chase ... Was he holding out like cee dee ? Did he get paid or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 722 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 5:08 PM, gcmmidwest said: What happened with chase ... Was he holding out like cee dee ? Did he get paid or not? no I think he hurt himself in pre season. its looking like a gametime decision whether he will play. he was limited in his last practice from what I can tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,048 Posted September 5, 2024 Hold out. He wants bigger money man. But I think it was posted yesterday that he did show up for practice, just another player wanting a summer off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 722 Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 5:25 PM, weepaws said: Hold out. He wants money man. But I think it was posted yesterday that he did show up for practice, just another player wanting a summer off. is that it? all I know is I saw he was limited in practice and assumed he dinged himself up or something. as he wasnt a player I was targetting at his ADP and I dont have him in any of my keeper leagues, hes not a guy I've been paying a lot of attention to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites