HellToupee 1,254 Posted October 5 8 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: Eighty-one percent of Americans believe in God. That's a long way from "Godless." Another dumbass, ignorant MAGAturd. Try 74% , jackass According to a May 2023 Gallup poll, 74% of Americans believe in God. This is down from 87% in 2017, and is a record low for the question, which was first asked in 1944. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 6 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Try 74% , jackass According to a May 2023 Gallup poll, 74% of Americans believe in God. This is down from 87% in 2017, and is a record low for the question, which was first asked in 1944. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1356902/share-americans-believe-god-us/ This one says 81 percent, but thanks for pointing out that belief in God fell off after Clownzo took office. It's not that liberalism draws people to the non-belief side; it's more like evangelical MAGAturdism pushes away people. Nevertheless, even the statistic of 74 percent curbstomps the assertion that America is "Godless," which would mean 0 percent. IndyColtsFan wins again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 The Bible can be found just about everywhere. It doesn’t need to be taught in our schools. Religion being taught should be left up to the parents, not public schools. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: The Bible can be found just about everywhere. It doesn’t need to be taught in our schools. Religion being taught should be left up to the parents, not public schools. Why? Not being a wise guy, but I feel like this is the canned response that everyone in America is trained to say. But why? Most Americans don’t know what the Establishment Clause is, never mind the why behind it. This country was founded on Christianity. It kind of made us great, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The Bible can be found just about everywhere. It doesn’t need to be taught in our schools. Religion being taught should be left up to the parents, not public schools. Or for those in faith-based private schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 10 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1356902/share-americans-believe-god-us/ This one says 81 percent, but thanks for pointing out that belief in God fell off after Clownzo took office. It's not that liberalism draws people to the non-belief side; it's more like evangelical MAGAturdism pushes away people. Nevertheless, even the statistic of 74 percent curbstomps the assertion that America is "Godless," which would mean 0 percent. IndyColtsFan wins again. You lose, on just about every level and every occasion in here. Sorry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, Patented Phil said: Why? Not being a wise guy, but I feel like this is the canned response that everyone in America is trained to say. But why? Most Americans don’t know what the Establishment Clause is, never mind the why behind it. This country was founded on Christianity. It kind of made us great, no? Religion is suppose to be separate. It’s something you should practice on your own. It’s why we have private schools. Religion should not be forced or even make people feel obligated to follow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Why? Not being a wise guy, but I feel like this is the canned response that everyone in America is trained to say. But why? Most Americans don’t know what the Establishment Clause is, never mind the why behind it. This country was founded on Christianity. It kind of made us great, no? This country was founded and built on diversity and acceptance, doing our bestest to separate religion from state, and yet dangerous aspects of our country want to turn it into the "Handmaid's Tale." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: You lose, on just about every level and every occasion in here. Sorry. I just infoslammed you. Take the L and go to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Religion is suppose to be separate. It’s something you should practice on your own. It’s why we have private schools. Religion should not be forced or even make people feel obligated to follow. Not wanting an official state religion is not the same as keeping religion out of schools. The Bible is the most widely read and historically significant document in human history. It should at least be taught to educate people about what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: I just infoslammed you. Take the L and go to bed. Pro-tip for those in the spectrum… “Godless” is a qualitative term, not a quantitative one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, Patented Phil said: Pro-tip for those in the spectrum… “Godless” is a qualitative term, not a quantitative one. Well, if you're going to label our country a Godless liberal one, you might want to wait until the percentage is at least a nut hair below the percentage of our country that is in Godless territory. Super pro tip, boyo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted October 5 5 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: Well, if you're going to label our country a Godless liberal one, you might want to wait until the percentage is at least a nut hair below the percentage of our country that is in Godless territory. Super pro tip, boyo! "Boyo." Liberals are so ghey and stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 Just now, seafoam1 said: "Boyo." Liberals are so ghey and stupid. You're like my pool boy, with my posts being water. You secretly hope I'll look at your ass while your clean my skimmer, but I won't, so you'll have to stew in unrequited gay lust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,537 Posted October 5 Just now, IndyColtsFan said: You're like my pool boy, with my posts being water. You secretly hope I'll look at your ass while your clean my skimmer, but I won't, so you'll have to stew in unrequited gay lust. "Boyo" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,009 Posted October 5 40 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The Bible can be found just about everywhere. It doesn’t need to be taught in our schools. Religion being taught should be left up to the parents, not public schools. How about if a child wants identity as the opposite sex, many schools have regulations that the parents don’t need to know, is that right? Or should that be up to the parents? Allowing, not forcing,but allowing students to learn about God, could save some of them from the harm that schools want to let take place to the children. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 13 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: This country was founded and built on diversity and acceptance, doing our bestest to separate religion from state, and yet dangerous aspects of our country want to turn it into the "Handmaid's Tale." It’s laughable to hear a Leftist hack like you talk about diversity and acceptance. You have no interest or commitment to those ideals. None. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: It’s laughable to hear a Leftist hack like you talk about diversity and acceptance. You have no interest or commitment to those ideals. None. What am I not accepting outside the Nazi-like MAGAturd agenda? Yeah, I'm not too crazy about Nazi Fascist MAGAturds. Color me unaccepting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted October 5 7 minutes ago, weepaws said: How about if a child wants identity as the opposite sex, many schools have regulations that the parents don’t need to know, is that right? Or should that be up to the parents? Allowing, not forcing,but allowing students to learn about God, could save some of them from the harm that schools want to let take place to the children. Nah. I'm totally on board with not allowing any kind of gender-altering medical intervention before age 21. After that, they're adults and can do what they want. Too many liberal parents prematurely embrace a kid's gender uncertainty and get all crazy about it because it's trendy and checks off a box on their liberal, trendy scorecard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 Religion is just a set of beliefs and values for optimizing human relationships, at the personal and societal level. Sounds a lot like the definition for “politics”. Leftist hacks have no problem imposing their monopolistic beliefs on others in public schools. But when a high school football coach takes part in an optional team prayer, well we can’t have that now can we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,647 Posted October 5 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: The Bible can be found just about everywhere. It doesn’t need to be taught in our schools. Religion being taught should be left up to the parents, not public schools. Which public school systems are teaching the Bible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 11 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Not wanting an official state religion is not the same as keeping religion out of schools. The Bible is the most widely read and historically significant document in human history. It should at least be taught to educate people about what it is. I don't have a problem teaching kids what it is. You could cover that in history class or something along with other religions. Leave the actual reading and study of the Bible to the parents and private schools though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 11 hours ago, weepaws said: How about if a child wants identity as the opposite sex, many schools have regulations that the parents don’t need to know, is that right? Or should that be up to the parents? Allowing, not forcing,but allowing students to learn about God, could save some of them from the harm that schools want to let take place to the children. Teaching religion does not belong in public school. This shouldn't really be an argument. If anything, make it an elective class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 7 hours ago, Baker Boy said: Which public school systems are teaching the Bible? I don't know. I didn't say it was happening right now. It seems more and more people are advocating for it though and I'm against that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't know. I didn't say it was happening right now. It seems more and more people are advocating for it though and I'm against that. I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But tell you what - if I were to have kids today I would 100% send them to private schools based on Christian teachings, rather than the Liberal beliefs being rammed down kids throats in public schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted October 5 JFC religious people are absolutely certifiable. The wife has Fox News on at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania and all of these goofballs saying how God protected Trump that day and it was a miracle from God. I’m like yeah, but a guy got a bullet through his brain and died. So did your fancy God just say well screw that guy though but I’ll grant a miracle to the popular guy. Absolutely certifiable. Where was his miracle? Or wait wait wait it was just his time. Oh gee Thanks that my time came where my head explodes from a bullet and you did nothing to stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But tell you what - if I were to have kids today I would 100% send them to private schools based on Christian teachings, rather than the Liberal beliefs being rammed down kids throats in public schools. I send my daughter to the same Catholic school I went and sent my son to. I know I may sound like I am against religion but I am not. I am against it being forced on others. It should be a choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: JFC religious people are absolutely certifiable. The wife has Fox News on at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania and all of these goofballs saying how God protected Trump that day and it was a miracle from God. I’m like yeah, but a guy got a bullet through his brain and died. So did your fancy God just say well screw that guy though but I’ll grant a miracle to the popular guy. Absolutely certifiable. Where was his miracle? Or wait wait wait it was just his time. Oh gee Thanks that my time came where my head explodes from a bullet and you did nothing to stop it. That's the kind of crap that drives me crazy. Those people are delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: JFC religious people are absolutely certifiable. The wife has Fox News on at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania and all of these goofballs saying how God protected Trump that day and it was a miracle from God. I’m like yeah, but a guy got a bullet through his brain and died. So did your fancy God just say well screw that guy though but I’ll grant a miracle to the popular guy. Absolutely certifiable. Where was his miracle? Or wait wait wait it was just his time. Oh gee Thanks that my time came where my head explodes from a bullet and you did nothing to stop it. I’m sure you’ve got concepts like reality, free-will, and manifestation all sorted out in your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted October 5 15 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: I’m sure you’ve got concepts like reality, free-will, and manifestation all sorted out in your head. Oh, so it’s free will when it doesn’t go your way but it’s a miracle when it does. Got it. No, I don’t have it all figured out, but I’m also not dumb enough to say it was a miracle when bullets are flying that it saved this person and not this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,216 Posted October 5 Coincidence = Miracle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 4 hours ago, cyclone24 said: Oh, so it’s free will when it doesn’t go your way but it’s a miracle when it does. Got it. No, I don’t have it all figured out, but I’m also not dumb enough to say it was a miracle when bullets are flying that it saved this person and not this one. So usually on a topic where I have no idea what the correct answer is, I’m reticent to criticize a point of view. People try to make sense of the world in different ways. To each his own, live and let live, whatever gets you through the night - and all that… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Coincidence = Miracle There is no more evidence pointing to coincidence than there is pointing to a miracle. Your feet are firmly planted in midair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 5 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: I send my daughter to the same Catholic school I went and sent my son to. I know I may sound like I am against religion but I am not. I am against it being forced on others. It should be a choice. 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's the kind of crap that drives me crazy. Those people are delusional. 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Coincidence = Miracle Sounds like you may have issues beyond it being forced upon others, which in today's day and age really isn’t really a societal problem. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Try a different church maybe? It helped for me. In any event, I wish you well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,009 Posted October 5 5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Teaching religion does not belong in public school. This shouldn't really be an argument. If anything, make it an elective class. But it’s okay, mr socialist to teach kids that it’s okay to identify has the opposite sex, and we don’t need to let mom, dad know, just has long that we keep God out of the schools. You are a very dangerous person. Trans issues do not belong in schools, Teaching God, does indeed, let’s teach righteousness over your wicked socialist values. Pos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted October 6 22 hours ago, Patented Phil said: So usually on a topic where I have no idea what the correct answer is, I’m reticent to criticize a point of view. People try to make sense of the world in different ways. To each his own, live and let live, whatever gets you through the night - and all that… The irony. sure doesnt stop the religious folks from coming off cack sure. Maybe yall practice the same idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,275 Posted October 7 9 hours ago, cyclone24 said: The irony. sure doesnt stop the religious folks from coming off cack sure. Maybe yall practice the same idea. The only ones calling the others “dumb” in here are the non-believers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted October 7 20 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: The only ones calling the others “dumb” in here are the non-believers. Well, Pookie bear you guys are the ones that seem to think everything that goes your way is a miracle and then get real vague when that bullet actually kills someone else when you have to explain how that is not a miracle. Yes, that’s comically dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,647 Posted October 7 3 hours ago, cyclone24 said: Well, Pookie bear you guys are the ones that seem to think everything that goes your way is a miracle and then get real vague when that bullet actually kills someone else when you have to explain how that is not a miracle. Yes, that’s comically dumb 60 million people die every year that is why if you escape death it is referred to as a miracle. HTH mir·a·cle [ˈmirək(ə)l] noun a highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or accomplishment that brings very welcome consequences: "it was a miracle that more people hadn't been killed or injured" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,647 Posted October 7 On 10/5/2024 at 6:36 AM, Hawkeye21 said: I don't know. I didn't say it was happening right now. It seems more and more people are advocating for it though and I'm against that. Who is advocating to teach the Bible in public schools? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
