Tyreek Hill stopped by the police before game

[Fireballer 2,608]

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

6’8 300 pound black dude and he had never been put in handcuffs in 38 years of life, certainly seems like he was taught how to behave around normal cops.

So maybe I’m missing something.  Can you provide a nuanced summary of the interaction between Campbell and and the cops? Not his words. Please be specific with words exchanged, distances, angle of approach, what was known by the officers about Campbell as he approached, the exact status/location of the Hill interaction when the Campbell interaction occurred.  An overhead diagram, to scale of course, would be helpful to. 

[avoiding injuries 1,383]

I was completely behind Hill when this incident happened last weekend. Every move made by him and his team (not Dolphins) is pushing me away. That’s the take from a casual follower of how the story is playing out. 

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13 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

People see a cop get fed up with games and be a little physical and we have Hack saying he should be fired.   I understand cops have a powerful job, but my God do we ask them to be perfect.  If you are a repeat offender of going overboard then sure.  Perhaps he does.  

I thought the cop was a bit over the top but did he pistol whip him?  They told him what to do and Tyreek was playing games.  You dont play stupid teenager games and the situation doesnt have to be turned into some deal.  

The cop should have sat cross legged on the road and waited for Tyreek to want to follow instructions.  Lol.  Some of you dont have that patience with your significant other on an hourly basis.   Maybe if thr cop put a pretty please and a lip out Tyreek would have gave in.  

Once a demand isn’t followed the perp feels like they have the upper hand.  That is not a situation a cop wants to be in.  Demands MUST be followed.  It’s that easy black folks.

[TimHauck 2,502]

33 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So maybe I’m missing something.  Can you provide a nuanced summary of the interaction between Campbell and and the cops? Not his words. Please be specific with words exchanged, distances, angle of approach, what was known by the officers about Campbell as he approached, the exact status/location of the Hill interaction when the Campbell interaction occurred.  An overhead diagram, to scale of course, would be helpful to. 

He first appears in the video around 3:45, just after Hill had been forcefully brought down to the curb, slowly walking over with his hands raised.  Can’t really hear what he says initially as he’s talking calmy while a cop (brown sleeves, not the black sleeve one that ultimately handcuffed him) yells at him to back up, which he does and says “how far back do you want me to go.”  Then he says “I just want to know what happened” and the cop says “it’s none of your business” and then goes over to yell at Jonnu Smith.  

Campbell reappears around 6:45, slowly walking back over when black sleeves says “I’m not gonna tell you again to leave.”  Campbell says “is it legal for me to stand here?”  No one answers him and just says “I’m giving you an order to get out of here. Get in your car and leave”    So he turns around and starts walking away, then the cop follows him to handcuff him.

 

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On 9/10/2024 at 8:54 AM, Strike said:

I think you're wrong.  Now, it may not be documented so maybe putting the window up wasn't technically illegal, but refusing to put it down when the cop starts demanding you do so sure as hell is. 

Did he have tinted windows?   Haven't watched the video.  If his windows were tinted, and the cops could not see in the car with the windows rolled up, you damn well better keep the windows down.  That's a safety issue.

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So Hill says the police “beat the dog” out of him.  I didn’t see the beating in the bodycam video, but surely the bystanders got it.

ALL this needed to be was a speeding ticket.  But apparently Hill, who claimed he doesn’t like having eyes on him, really wanted some extra attention.

[Hawkeye21 2,238]

23 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Did he have tinted windows?   Haven't watched the video.  If his windows were tinted, and the cops could not see in the car with the windows rolled up, you damn well better keep the windows down.  That's a safety issue.

Absolutely tinted.  Hill screwed up and far too many people are making excuses for him.

[TimHauck 2,502]

this would indicate they know the officer was in the wrong, IMO

[TimHauck 2,502]

37 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Did he have tinted windows?   Haven't watched the video.  If his windows were tinted, and the cops could not see in the car with the windows rolled up, you damn well better keep the windows down.  That's a safety issue.

This is fair, and when asked to get out of the car he did, was literally on his way out before the dude pulled him out.

[supermike80 1,619]

14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Absolutely tinted.  Hill screwed up and far too many people are making excuses for him.

As a cop, there is NO WAY I would allow someone I pulled over to be able to disappear behind tinted glass.  I mean does anyone pay attention to the crazyness out there???

[supermike80 1,619]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This is fair, and when asked to get out of the car he did, was literally on his way out before the dude pulled him out.

I can agree the cops overracted at that point.  I mean there is fault on both sides, but anyone that says Hill is without fault is a moron

[TimHauck 2,502]

On 9/9/2024 at 1:32 PM, Fireballer said:

So I’m reading he was driving over 100 in a 55?  If that’s true, you should know this isn’t a “here’s your ticket” situation. 

FYI in case you had not seen, this was in fact not true.  You might want to find better news sources.

[TimHauck 2,502]

Footage of Campbell while he’s in handcuffs.  He says he doesn’t know what he did wrong, at this point the cop says “it’s 25 feet now, per law,” but then says “I don’t need to tell you that.”   But apparently this law doesn’t even go into effect until 2025.  Lol, this isn’t going to turn out well for these cops.

 

They cite same law to some random white dude filming also, and even says “I gave you 25 ft, he gave you 25 ft, that’s 50 ft.”  Lol, pretty sure when the law actually goes into effect it doesn’t work like that.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,238]

@TimHauck We all agree the cops went a little overboard but I feel like you keep trying to make excuses for Hill.  Hill is the cause of the entire situation.  Lets place responsibility on the right person here.

[Mike Honcho 4,794]

18 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Has this entire country lost its mind. So Hill is speeding driving reckless, putting peoples lives in danger and correctly gets pulled over for it. Decides to get mouthy, decides to be a smart ass with his windows and just generally a jackass.
 

Hey, I’ve got news for you. I’d be put on the ground too. Again, if Black people are that scared of the police it’s crazy the amount of dumb shiit they do around them.

Pulled over correctly and rightfully so as you should’ve been. Put your hands on the damn wheel and obey orders. You are not in authority at that point.

But of course it’s Black people so they don’t miss an opportunity to be marginalized even if they do something stupid. I’m sick of their bullshiit.

Net focking negative culture.

Really, he was doing all those things, because that's not what is being reported. 

[Hawkeye21 2,238]

25 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

As a cop, there is NO WAY I would allow someone I pulled over to be able to disappear behind tinted glass.  I mean does anyone pay attention to the crazyness out there???

Someone in a nice car like that most likely has a weapon in the car as well.  

[Hawkeye21 2,238]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Really, he was doing all those things, because that's not what is being reported. 

He was speeding and driving carelessly.  We all saw it on video.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,284]

The word form the Miami- Dade LE community is that Hill and many other Dolphin players have been given countless breaks for diving like morons. 

[Fireballer 2,608]

37 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FYI in case you had not seen, this was in fact not true.  You might want to find better news sources.

Lmao…bump of the 3 day old post that you had to go look for. You’re reaaallllyyyy not owning anyone here bro. 

[Fireballer 2,608]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Footage of Campbell while he’s in handcuffs.  He says he doesn’t know what he did wrong, at this point the cop says “it’s 25 feet now, per law,” but then says “I don’t need to tell you that.”   But apparently this law doesn’t even go into effect until 2025.  Lol, this isn’t going to turn out well for these cops.

 

They cite same law to some random white dude filming also, and even says “I gave you 25 ft, he gave you 25 ft, that’s 50 ft.”  Lol, pretty sure when the law actually goes into effect it doesn’t work like that.

 

So they told Campbell to leave, and he came back?  

[TimHauck 2,502]

18 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

@TimHauck We all agree the cops went a little overboard but I feel like you keep trying to make excuses for Hill.  Hill is the cause of the entire situation.  Let’s place responsibility on the right person here.

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Do we all agree at least with that?  I’d argue more than “a little,” but the above posters were some I saw defending the cop’s actions without saying they did anything wrong that I saw, if I missed a quote please feel free to repost, or clarify your position if you do actually feel the cops (mainly one primarily) went overboard.

[TimHauck 2,502]

12 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So they told Campbell to leave, and he came back?  

Well he was still by his car and not really in the scene.  You’re really reaching.

[TimHauck 2,502]

14 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Lmao…bump of the 3 day old post that you had to go look for. You’re reaaallllyyyy not owning anyone here bro. 

Lol, not even gonna admit you got duped by fake news?

[Fireballer 2,608]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

  You’re really reaching.

Seriously, you’re not the worst poster here by far, but you tend wade into stuff you don’t have first hand knowledge of and try to own someone.  This is one of them.  I’m definitely not the one reaching.  

[TimHauck 2,502]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Seriously, you’re not the worst poster here by far, but you tend wade into stuff you don’t have first hand knowledge of and try to own someone.  This is one of them.  I’m definitely not the one reaching.  

Well damn, it’s sad that we live in a country where people have no issue with someone being handcuffed for standing.

[Fireballer 2,608]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol, not even gonna admit you got duped by fake news?

IF, you dolt.  I said “if this is true”.  JFC, dude give it a rest. You’re making yourself look more stupid.

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I can't help but believe that competent communication skills and just a modicum of patience on behalf of the officers would have had this matter quickly and amicably resolved with no use of force and nobody in handcuffs. 

[TimHauck 2,502]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

IF, you dolt.  I said “if this is true”. 

Yes and I let you know that it wasn’t, but you just whined about it being from 3 days ago without acknowledging the falsehood of “what you were reading.”

[Fireballer 2,608]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well he was still by his car and not really in the scene.  You’re really reaching.

Not “really” in the scene…says Tim.  

[TimHauck 2,502]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Not “really” in the scene…says Tim.  

Please share the definition of “the scene” Mr defender of all police officers 

[Fireballer 2,608]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Yes and I let you know that it wasn’t, but you just whined about it being from 3 days ago without acknowledging the falsehood of “what you were reading.”

See, this is the stupid “owning” bullshat.  By saying “if it’s true” I know that it might not be. If you had comprehension, you would know that and wouldn’t have to search my posts from 3 days ago for some stupid gotcha, which it’s not.

[TimHauck 2,502]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

See, this is the stupid “owning” bullshat.  By saying “if it’s true” I know that it might not be. If you had comprehension, you would know that and wouldn’t have to search my posts from 3 days ago for some stupid gotcha, which it’s not.

I wasn’t searching for you, I had searched previously for people taking about 100 mph, and I believe it was only you and the board’s biggest liar suggesting that.  So congrats, you’re in good company. 

[Fireballer 2,608]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Please share the definition of “the scene” Mr defender of all police officers 

You just can’t get enough spanking this AM, huh?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,284]

56 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Lmao…bump of the 3 day old post that you had to go look for. You’re reaaallllyyyy not owning anyone here bro. 

Hack has low self esteem 

[Mike Honcho 4,794]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He was speeding and driving carelessly.  We all saw it on video.

Yeah, I haven't seen that video.  I have only seen the video starting with the cop walking up to Hill's car.  Can you link to the reckless driving video?

[Hawkeye21 2,238]

9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, I haven't seen that video.  I have only seen the video starting with the cop walking up to Hill's car.  Can you link to the reckless driving video?

 

[TimHauck 2,502]

13 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, I haven't seen that video.  I have only seen the video starting with the cop walking up to Hill's car.  Can you link to the reckless driving video?

Well he said careless, which is what I assumed you were questioning.  When one of the cops asked the other what he was giving him, he said “seatbelt and careless.”  The other guy asks “reckless?” and he says no.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

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@Fireballer

 

Do we all agree at least with that?  I’d argue more than “a little,” but the above posters were some I saw defending the cop’s actions without saying they did anything wrong that I saw, if I missed a quote please feel free to repost, or clarify your position if you do actually feel the cops (mainly one primarily) went overboard.

You should correct yourself.  You did not see anything from me defending the actions of the police or commenting about the police at all.  My comments were about Hill.

 In GENERAL I will say that Hill was uncooperative and non-compliant in the midst of a valid stop and his actions were such that a reasonable man would be wary of his intentions toward the police who were merely trying to issue a valid citation.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Well he said careless, which is what I assumed you were questioning.  When one of the cops asked the other what he was giving him, he said “seatbelt and careless.”  The other guy asks “reckless?” and he says no.

What the hell is careless driving?  From the clip provided above, I can see how the cops could 'guesstimate' he was speeding(which in a lot of areas is legal standard-I think that's absurd), but I didn't see anything reckless.

[TimHauck 2,502]

1 minute ago, MLCKAA said:

You should correct yourself.  You did not see anything from me defending the actions of the police or commenting about the police at all.  My comments were about Hill.

 In GENERAL I will say that Hill was uncooperative and non-compliant in the midst of a valid stop and his actions were such that a reasonable man would be wary of his intentions toward the police who were merely trying to issue a valid citation.

What is your opinion of the police behavior?