Mass Deportation

[thegeneral 2,490]

50 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I see it as you crying and whining a lot while others laugh at you. 

Oh, wait....No changes to your personal emotional life I guess. 

Fart noises

[jonnyutah 223]

I applied for a tag.

[thegeneral 2,490]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Any illegal immigrant that is in custody, gets sent back to the country they came from.  If the city is a sanctuary city, they pays the bill.  If it's not, but the state is, then state pays the bill.  If neither are, then the head of the DNC pays the bill.  Anyone choosing to not pay, will be automatically found guilty of treason.  That's how it SHOULD work.

What about those not in custody?

[lickin_starfish 1,782]

1 hour ago, purdygood said:

When it comes to "Sanctuary Cities". Law abiding illegals should feel free not to be reported for calling the police or just living their life's.   And those who break the law should not be deported.... They should be in jail with a maximum sentence (if it's a felony or misdemeanor that requires jail time) for whatever they did with no parole.    Then deported after their sentence is up. It's a pretty simple win win. 

You are correct. All illegals are breaking the law, and should be in jail.

[thegeneral 2,490]

9 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

You are correct. All illegals are breaking the law, and should be in jail.

This seems like the worst possible option.

[purdygood 306]

1 hour ago, lickin_starfish said:

You are correct. All illegals are breaking the law, and should be in jail.

I agree. But there are levels to law breaking. No?  Some are bad. And some are awful.  That's where the kerfuffle exists.  How to punish different degrees of law breaking. 

[jerryskids 6,166]

If you don't punish people who come here illegally, they will continue to come here illegally.

This seems like basic human psychology to me, but a remarkable number of people don't seem to get this basic tenet of human behavior.   

[Horseman 1,987]

6 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

I applied for a tag.

This is the way. 

Or busses lots of busses. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

13 hours ago, purdygood said:

Do you know what a "sanctuary city" is? It literally is not a "invite" to "come here". It just means "hey if you are here. And you are scared to report a crime because you are undocumented. We want you to report the crime and we wont rat you out to the feds".  Thats pretty much it. 
 

Saying all that I understand that would invite illegals to cluster in those cities.  But I also want them to feel safe calling 911 if a Legal person is committing a crime.  Let's say you came here Illegaly 10 years ago.  And you see your next door neighbor "Steve from Wisconsin" beating the s--t out of his wife.  But you don't want to call 911 because you are are afraid of being deported. I guess Martha just gets to take her beating.  In this scenario the illegal has been here 10 years.  Hasn't committed any crimes other than being a sous chef at your favorite restaurant Applebee's. 

If an illegal immigrant calls 911 on someone else, is that illegal immigrant committing a crime or on custody?  If not, how does that apply to what I said?

Also, yes, a sanctuary city (or state), is an invitation to go there.

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

11 hours ago, thegeneral said:

What about those not in custody?

What about them?

[thegeneral 2,490]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

What about them?

Are they ok or do they get rounded up and bounced as well?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,164]

Their countries don’t want them and we don’t want them. I bet if we come together and concentrate we can come up with a solution, finally.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Are they ok or do they get rounded up and bounced as well?

If they're living off the government dime, yes.  I mean, we don't have to "track them down", they're already tracked, right?  We know this because we're supporting them.   

Exceptions, because I believe in states rights....

• If the state is a sanctuary state, then they can 100% foot the bill with no aid from the federal government because the federal government isn't a "sanctuary country".
  • In this environment, at the beginning of the year, the state must provide a budget to the federal government showing their financial obligations to confirm that they're not just going to ask for aid for one thing and use it on the illegal immigrants.
  • At the end of the year, the state must give full account expenditures to the federal government every year to verify that federal money isn't being used to fund illegal immigrants.
• If the state is NOT a sanctuary state, it's up to the state to allow a city to be a sanctuary city.  Now, I'm ok with every state allowing it if the city is following the same rules mentioned above.

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Their countries don’t want them and we don’t want them. I bet if we come together and concentrate we can come up with a solution, finally.  

I don't know that their countries "don't want them".

It's impossible to come up with a solution because the Democrats need victims to exploit.  If there are no immigrants to exploit, there's no reason to allow them in, in the first place.  And Democrat voters aren't smart enough to not vote for Democrat politicians, so the cycle will continue.

[thegeneral 2,490]

12 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

If they're living off the government dime, yes.  I mean, we don't have to "track them down", they're already tracked, right?  We know this because we're supporting them.   

Exceptions, because I believe in states rights....

• If the state is a sanctuary state, then they can 100% foot the bill with no aid from the federal government because the federal government isn't a "sanctuary country".
  • In this environment, at the beginning of the year, the state must provide a budget to the federal government showing their financial obligations to confirm that they're not just going to ask for aid for one thing and use it on the illegal immigrants.
  • At the end of the year, the state must give full account expenditures to the federal government every year to verify that federal money isn't being used to fund illegal immigrants.
• If the state is NOT a sanctuary state, it's up to the state to allow a city to be a sanctuary city.  Now, I'm ok with every state allowing it if the city is following the same rules mentioned above.

How are you collecting ones that don’t fall into these categories? Has to be in the millions.

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

15 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How are you collecting ones that don’t fall into these categories? Has to be in the millions.

Who said I was collecting them?  The scumbags that you voted for, made it virtually impossible to do that.  The thing we need to do is secure the border so that more don't come through and add to the problem.  I think making a federal law to prohibit illegal immigration to the extent that being in this country illegally is a federal crime and the penalty is determined by the person who's here illegally.  They can go back to where they came from, stay in federal prison for the rest of their lives, or the death penalty.  I'm ok with whatever they choose.

[thegeneral 2,490]

14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Who said I was collecting them?  The scumbags that you voted for, made it virtually impossible to do that.  The thing we need to do is secure the border so that more don't come through and add to the problem.  I think making a federal law to prohibit illegal immigration to the extent that being in this country illegally is a federal crime and the penalty is determined by the person who's here illegally.  They can go back to where they came from, stay in federal prison for the rest of their lives, or the death penalty.  I'm ok with whatever they choose.

Thats what I’m asking? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Thats what I’m asking? 

I told you who I was collecting and how.

[thegeneral 2,490]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I told you who I was collecting and how.

Was it that…anyone in jail or custody gets the boot, anyone collecting government checks gets the boot, the rest will not be rounded up?

[jonnyutah 223]

This is the dumbest of the dummy-o tactics yet. How??? How will you catch all these people that come and collect money on a pretty regular basis and have relatives living in their houses with them???? How!?!?!

Ok but then after that??? How??????? How???

 

[Gepetto 1,192]

I feel like there's a really great Country music song just waiting to come out of all of this. "Round 'em up!"

[[echo] 82]

when Obama deported more illegals that any president in history, how did he do it?

or is that fact too much for lefties to comment on? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Was it that…anyone in jail or custody gets the boot, anyone collecting government checks gets the boot, the rest will not be rounded up?

Unfortunately, we don't have a choice because the scumbags you vote for let millions in and it would be too expensive to do it.

That said, I don't think it would really be all that hard (just time), to track most of them down though.  If the federal government want to use the data that's out there, then go for it.  See, the majority of these people who are in sanctuary states or cities are getting some kind of benefit... be it drivers licenses, work visas, what have you.  They're getting something.  There's likely government agencies with records of these people because there's someone advocating for them.  Very few are just here hiding in the shadows.  Round them up, and as I said, make the state pay the bill.  They created the problem, they can clean it up.  Now, if the state wants them to stay... I'm ok with that.  Why?  States Rights.  The state can foot the bill to go through the process of getting them citizenship.  If they don't want to pay, then they go to federal prision.

This is a no-lose situation.  If the Democrats pay, they're paying for their own policies... I'm fine with that.  If they don't pay, the cities and states will be turned over to Republican or Independent candidates (because the members of the DNC Caucus will all be in prison), and a border policy will easily implemented to severely stem the flow of illegal immigration.

 

[purdygood 306]

4 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I feel like there's a really great Country music song just waiting to come out of all of this. "Round 'em up!"

Round em up

A cold beer

A free flight back to 'Zuela

They might

come back, but Mexico built that wall

Oh wait they didn't?

Well hold MY COLD BEER 

its ROUNDIN TIME!

(Then a guitar riff)

Roundin Time Roundin Time

I never finished High School what rhymes with Time .....

 

 

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Their countries don’t want them and we dont want themI bet if we come together and concentrate we can come up with a solution, finally.  

Speak for yourself buddy. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

13 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

This is the dumbest of the dummy-o tactics yet. How??? How will you catch all these people that come and collect money on a pretty regular basis and have relatives living in their houses with them???? How!?!?!

Ok but then after that??? How??????? How???

 

He's waiting for me to say "by doing mass raids" or by some sort of violent tactics or some other kind of "gotchya, you're a racist", statement.  The thing is, it's not really all that hard.  The majority of these people are tracked by the cities and states they're in, they just don't want them counted for the rest of the world (or even their own constituents), to find out.

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

5 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I feel like there's a really great Country music song just waiting to come out of all of this. "Round 'em up!"

If you can’t think of one, the Horst Wessel song will do nicely. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst-Wessel-Lied

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

He's waiting for me to say "by doing mass raids" or by some sort of violent tactics or some other kind of "gotchya, you're a racist", statement.  

Hey if the hood fits…

[DonS 3,239]

Maybe they should be rounded up and put in a "green energy camp" where they each run on treadmills all day / every day to generate electricity!   

Boom!  Now we have the infrastructure for EVs.  Everyone wins. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,431]

2 minutes ago, DonS said:

Maybe they should be rounded up and put in a "green energy camp" where they each run on treadmills all day / every day to generate electricity!   

Boom!  Now we have the infrastructure for EVs.  Everyone wins. 

Soylent Green?

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey if the hood fits…

I guess you would know, it's your party's foundation.  But I'm not a Democrat, so the moniker doesn't apply.  Sorry.

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

4 minutes ago, DonS said:

Maybe they should be rounded up and put in a "green energy camp" where they each run on treadmills all day / every day to generate electricity!   

Boom!  Now we have the infrastructure for EVs.  Everyone wins. 

I think that's a great idea.  I mean, that's them "just taking a job no one wants", right?

[The Real timschochet 5,232]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I guess you would know, it's your party's foundation.  But I'm not a Democrat, so the moniker doesn't apply.  Sorry.

They all switched parties. This ain’t 1965 anymore. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

They all switched parties. This ain’t 1965 anymore. 

LOL, you keep thinking that.

[thegeneral 2,490]

45 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

This is the dumbest of the dummy-o tactics yet. How??? How will you catch all these people that come and collect money on a pretty regular basis and have relatives living in their houses with them???? How!?!?!

Ok but then after that??? How??????? How???

 

I’m asking how you collect the millions of people. What are the mechanics of this? 

[jonnyutah 223]

They cant drive worth a damn. Just up driving enforcement for a few weeks and that will take care of half of them. 

 

[thegeneral 2,490]

30 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

He's waiting for me to say "by doing mass raids" or by some sort of violent tactics or some other kind of "gotchya, you're a racist", statement.  The thing is, it's not really all that hard.  The majority of these people are tracked by the cities and states they're in, they just don't want them counted for the rest of the world (or even their own constituents), to find out.

I am asking how this is done. How do you pick these people up who are you picking up. This is your idea so asking how this process plays out. 

[thegeneral 2,490]

34 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Unfortunately, we don't have a choice because the scumbags you vote for let millions in and it would be too expensive to do it.

That said, I don't think it would really be all that hard (just time), to track most of them down though.  If the federal government want to use the data that's out there, then go for it.  See, the majority of these people who are in sanctuary states or cities are getting some kind of benefit... be it drivers licenses, work visas, what have you.  They're getting something.  There's likely government agencies with records of these people because there's someone advocating for them.  Very few are just here hiding in the shadows.  Round them up, and as I said, make the state pay the bill.  They created the problem, they can clean it up.  Now, if the state wants them to stay... I'm ok with that.  Why?  States Rights.  The state can foot the bill to go through the process of getting them citizenship.  If they don't want to pay, then they go to federal prision.

This is a no-lose situation.  If the Democrats pay, they're paying for their own policies... I'm fine with that.  If they don't pay, the cities and states will be turned over to Republican or Independent candidates (because the members of the DNC Caucus will all be in prison), and a border policy will easily implemented to severely stem the flow of illegal immigration.

 

What’s this about citizenship?

You would put who in federal prison?

How would cities and states be turned over to Republican or Independent candidates?

[Horseman 1,987]

49 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

This is the dumbest of the dummy-o tactics yet. How??? How will you catch all these people that come and collect money on a pretty regular basis and have relatives living in their houses with them???? How!?!?!

Ok but then after that??? How??????? How???

 

Jonny, meet lowIQgeneral.

[thegeneral 2,490]

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