Mass Deportation

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Constitution covers non citizens?

Oh ok, Illegal aliens can stay if they just say the Pledge then. Good proposal.

[purdygood 306]

21 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Just the Plege of allegiance in a formal setting Kappy. 

"Pledge" to spelling.

[purdygood 306]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You speak like a hella idiot.  

That's a hella compliment dude, thanks!

[Horseman 1,986]

31 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Btw HT2's point wasn't about border encounter numbers, it was about his claiming that immigrants weren't tested for Covid. My point was that if he believed they weren't tested he should hold that to the chief executive running things then, The Donald.

You're just wrong.  Record number of crossings started in 2021 and they weren't tested.

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CBP does not conduct COVID-19 testing for migrants who enter CBP custody. Instead, CBP relies on local public health systems to test symptomatic individuals. According to CBP officials, as a frontline law enforcement agency, it does not have the necessary resources to conduct such testing.

2021

[Fnord 1,664]

36 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Constitution covers non citizens?

You didn't specify WHO would get deported for refusal to recite the POA. Wasn't sure if that included American citizens. Also, the POA is dumb and pointless. Why pledge allegiance to a piece of fabric? Burning the flag in protest is also protected by 1A, as it should be.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,163]

17 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're just wrong.  Record number of crossings started in 2021 and they weren't tested.

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2021

. Poor MDC

[Tree of Knowledge 1,430]

41 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Oh ok, Illegal aliens can stay if they just say the Pledge then. Good proposal.

One of many expectations to be able to stay in America.  Ham sandwich test is another.  

[Horseman 1,986]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You didn't specify WHO would get deported for refusal to recite the POA. Wasn't sure if that included American citizens. Also, the POA is dumb and pointless. Why pledge allegiance to a piece of fabric? Burning the flag in protest is also protected by 1A, as it should be.

Fnord is so dumb he doesn't know who the mass deportations are for. 

[purdygood 306]

Just now, Tree of Knowledge said:

One of many expectations to be able to stay in America.  Ham sandwich test is another.  

I was born in America.  I don't like the pledge of allegiance (kinda communist to mandate that).   I fly my Flag on appropriate Holidays.  I don't like ham sandwiches. (I prefer a Holiday French Dip or a Meatball Parm (slightly toasted bread))  I wear my USA gear during the Olympics. Confederate flags disgust me.  I stand for the Anthem at sporting events but I think it's a waste of time. I pay my taxes (except on tea, F the British) .  I vote. I also support immigrants (of any kind) who don't break our laws (even crossing illegally) and just want to live the American dream.

[Fnord 1,664]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Fnord is so dumb he doesn't know who the mass deportations are for. 

Hope you're not wearing a toupee, it would've flown right off with the gust that just went blowing over your head.

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

24 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

One of many expectations to be able to stay in America.  Ham sandwich test is another.  

If that's all it takes, then I think even the farthest left lib-prog-leftist would take that. So would the immigrants.

[seafoam1 2,525]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Fnord is so dumb he doesn't know who the mass deportations are for. 

This is true. He's a useless schmuck. 

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

43 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Instead, CBP relies on local public health systems to test symptomatic individuals.

I think that the local health clinic does it and not actual agents is a fine distinction I can live with. Point is they're tested.

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

46 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're just wrong.  Record number of crossings started in 2021 and they weren't tested.

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CBP does not conduct COVID-19 testing for migrants who enter CBP custody. Instead, CBP relies on local public health systems to test symptomatic individuals. According to CBP officials, as a frontline law enforcement agency, it does not have the necessary resources to conduct such testing.

2021

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Specifically, DHS developed a multi-layer framework to ensure all migrants entering the United States are tested for COVID-19 “prior to onwards travel into the United States.” According to DHS Office of the Executive Secretary officials, the Department’s COVID-19 testing framework is as follows:

Since February 2021, through robust partnerships with state, local, and non-governmental organizations, in coordination with the CMO, the Department has developed a multi-layer framework that ensures all noncitizens entering the United States are tested for COVID-19 prior to onwards travel into the United States. After initial health screening by CBP at the point of encounter, noncitizens are tested by ICE (single adults), [state, local, tribal, and territorial government/non-governmental organizations] partnerships and [DHS Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction Office] contractors in support of CBP (family units), or HHS (unaccompanied children).

 

Note the Biden administration did that.

Again, if people are complaining about Donald's failings in his administration then maybe pick someone who can administer the administration better.

[Horseman 1,986]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

And:

Note the Biden administration did that.

Again, if people are complaining about Donald's failings in his administration then maybe pick someone who can administer the administration better.

Let me translate that for you - The CBP isn't doing any testing.  

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

Just now, Horseman said:

Let me translate that for you - The CBP isn't doing any testing.

Oh, you want CPB agents testing, not rounding up interlopers. Got it.

Again per your link immigrants are being tested, at least since February 2021.

[Horseman 1,986]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Oh, you want CPB agents testing, not rounding up interlopers. Got it.

Again per your link immigrants are being tested, at least since February 2021.

Welcome to the US, make sure you report to ICE and go down to the local Walgreens to get a Covid test.  Have a nice day!

How foking dumb are you exactly?

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

Just now, Horseman said:

Welcome to the US, make sure you report to ICE and go down to the local Walgreens to get a Covid test.  Have a nice day!

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... all noncitizens entering the United States are tested for COVID-19 prior to onwards travel into the United States. 

After initial health screening by CBP at the point of encounter, noncitizens are tested by ICE (single adults), [state, local, tribal, and territorial government/non-governmental organizations] partnerships and [DHS Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction Office] contractors in support of CBP (family units), or HHS (unaccompanied children).

 

To spell, this out, no, not Walgreens.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,163]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Welcome to the US, make sure you report to ICE and go down to the local Walgreens to get a Covid test.  Have a nice day!

How foking dumb are you exactly?

He’s plenty dumb.  Enough for everyone. 

[squistion 1,655]

12 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I was born in America.  I don't like the pledge of allegiance (kinda communist to mandate that).   I fly my Flag on appropriate Holidays.  I don't like ham sandwiches. (I prefer a Holiday French Dip or a Meatball Parm (slightly toasted bread))  I wear my USA gear during the Olympics. Confederate flags disgust me.  I stand for the Anthem at sporting events but I think it's a waste of time. I pay my taxes (except on tea, F the British) .  I vote. I also support immigrants (of any kind) who don't break our laws (even crossing illegally) and just want to live the American dream.

I would say facist (see Sieg Heil). I refuse to say The Pledge Of Allegiance, although I do stand with my hands clasped in front of me and stair at my shoes until it's over.

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Enough for everyone. 

I'm just curious - since you're not happy with the Biden administration testing immigrants because you don't like the authorities doing the testing instead of CPB, what then is your excuse for Donald not requiring any at all during his administration?

Maybe it was the constant changing of leadership at DHS, ICE & CPB. They must have had what 5-6 directors each?

[Horseman 1,986]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

To spell, this out, no, not Walgreens.

To spell this out - Hyperbole

Hint:  They wouldn't have issued the report in the first place if everything was working perfectly like you have it painted in your tiny brain.  Maybe have someone read the summary for you?

Thanks for indirectly answering my question though, good grief.  

 

[Horseman 1,986]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I'm just curious - since you're not happy with the Biden administration testing immigrants because you don't like the authorities doing the testing instead of CPB, what then is your excuse for Donald not requiring any at all during his administration?

Because he had Remain in Mexico.  

Duh.

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

Just now, Horseman said:

They wouldn't have issued the report in the first place if everything was working perfectly

Of course, they received a referral from the Office of Special Counsel.

Still doesn't address the fact that changes to ensure testing occurred in February 2021.

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Because he had Remain in Mexico.  

Right, didn't need to test immigrants coming in because there were fewer of them. Makes total sense.

[Horseman 1,986]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Right, didn't need to test immigrants coming in because there were fewer of them. Makes total sense.

Asylum seekers stayed in Mexico.  Shocked you didn't know that.  You're having a bad day, maybe take a break and try again tomorrow?

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Asylum seekers stayed in Mexico. 

End of 2020 per your own link there were still over 50,000 encounters.

[purdygood 306]

Just now, Horseman said:

Asylum seekers stayed in Mexico.  Shocked you didn't know that.  You're having a bad day, maybe take a break and try again tomorrow?

What if. Wait for it.  All asylum seekers were granted access to the USA... but they had to stay in New Mexico? I mean, why else is it called that?

[Horseman 1,986]

12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

End of 2020 per your own link there were still over 50,000 encounters.

Inadmissibles and Expulsions.  In February 2021 the expulsions ended.  HTH

[Fnord 1,664]

55 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Fnord is so dumb he doesn't know who the mass deportations are for. 

 

24 minutes ago, Horseman said:

To spell this out - Hyperbole

 

43 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Hope you're not wearing a toupee, it would've flown right off with the gust that just went blowing over your head.

[Horseman 1,986]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Oh look, jonmx's boyfriend isn't getting enough attention.  lol

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Inadmissibles and Expulsions.  In February 2021 the expulsions ended.  HTH

Thanks. It's interesting (seriously) but what you're telling me is that CBP wasn't testing when supposedly no one was coming into the country and then when people were coming into the country they were testing via other agencies. Ok.

[Horseman 1,986]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks. It's interesting (seriously) but what you're telling me is that CBP wasn't testing when supposedly no one was coming into the country and then when pople were coming into the country they were testing via other agencies. Ok.

Nobody was testing and Biden threw the doors open in the middle of a pandemic.  Case closed Sherlock.  

I don't have time to carry water for you here, next time figure out the facts before spouting off. 

[SaintsInDome2006 211]

46 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Nobody was testing and Biden threw the doors open in the middle of a pandemic.  

In February 2021, when they started testing. Good lord, the absolute worst thing is when Maga gets exactly what it demanded, it’s always unacceptable.

[edjr 6,300]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Hope you're not wearing a toupee, it would've flown right off with the gust that just went blowing over your head.

 

[jerryskids 6,165]

On 9/22/2024 at 10:06 AM, purdygood said:

Oh im in 100% agreement with that.  I just want to point out how stupid and unfair it is to MILLIONS of citizens who want to live in the most desirable locations within this lovely country we have. Who have to live under the whims of people who live in Iowa. 
 

The biggest state population wise, the 5th biggest economy in the world alone is out represented on a per vote share basis by Arizona.  Based on the Electoral College.   Cactus done vote. 

 

On 9/22/2024 at 12:40 PM, purdygood said:

The "blue left" may be over represented by the census.  And the House. But the "Red Right" is over represented in the Senate.  The President shouldn't need the Electoral College.  It should be elected by ALL the citizens regardless of where they live.
 

Then they can all work together.
 

But the "Red Right" has a advantage in two of those three currently... Because of the Electoral College. So a lot of "Blue Voters" feel like Rural areas (less people) are making decisions for them. (More people) Just like many Rural voters are "afraid" CA and NY will make decisions for them if it goes away. 

This site shows an excellent graph of which states "lose" votes and which "gain" based on representation in Congress vs. population:

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/electoral-college-states-representation/

Because every state gets 2 for Senators, the smallest states all get 3 EC votes vs. just 1.  But Cali still gets 55 (albeit instead of 65).  So yes, your vote counts "less," but not too much less.

Also, looking at that chart, it seems to me fairly distributed between Red and Blue as to which states lose votes vs. which gain.  If you read that otherwise, let me know.

Finally, I'm not sure why you would pick AZ as your example.  You'll note from the graph that AZ is on the losing (larger) side as well.  Plus it is one of the fastest growing states, in large part because people from your shiot hole keep moving here in droves, bringing the same liberal policies that are destroying Cali.  Thanks for nothing.   

[thegeneral 2,490]

On 9/19/2024 at 8:16 AM, Tree of Knowledge said:

I don’t see the benevolent Father Trump using the military.

Update!

[TBayXXXVII 2,390]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Update!

Did he say that he was going to use the military to round up the people or use them to carry out the deportation?

[HellToupee 1,252]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Update!

What a weird bump

[thegeneral 2,490]

10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Did he say that he was going to use the military to round up the people or use them to carry out the deportation?

He “truther” about it. I think how this plays out is still fluid.