seafoam1 2,617 Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s really stupid. Cartels don’t send their drugs across the border and they certainly don’t come across the border in large numbers. They sneak the drugs into our ports. As Trump would know if he bothered to talk to the DEA. This is all for show. It’s going to cost a ton of money and will achieve nothing. Our 60 year failed War on Drugs should have taught us that you can’t fight this by using force against the suppliers because there will always be more. You need to reduce the demand. Wow. This is stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s really stupid. Cartels don’t send their drugs across the border and they certainly don’t come across the border in large numbers. They sneak the drugs into our ports. As Trump would know if he bothered to talk to the DEA. This is all for show. It’s going to cost a ton of money and will achieve nothing. Our 60 year failed War on Drugs should have taught us that you can’t fight this by using force against the suppliers because there will always be more. You need to reduce the demand. ROFLMAO. Yeah, they just build these DRUG tunnels for fun: https://etsn.fm/ixp/194/p/drug-tunnel-el-paso/ https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/tunnel-discovered-arizona-border-wall-mexican-state-police-use-drones You are one of the most ignorant people to ever post on this forum. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,950 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. Yeah, they just build these DRUG tunnels for fun: https://etsn.fm/ixp/194/p/drug-tunnel-el-paso/ https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/tunnel-discovered-arizona-border-wall-mexican-state-police-use-drones You are one of the most ignorant people to ever post on this forum. Suddenly I have an urge to watch The Great Escape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Suddenly I have an urge to watch The Great Escape. Shouldn't need an excuse to watch one of the greatest ensemble cast movies of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: Sounds like what Reagan did. At the time i predicted, accurately, that it would not be a one-time grant of amnesty, as was absolutley promised. I predicted it would be a precedent. that time and again we would not be vigiklent,and taht each time folks would say, well lets grant them amnesty and start over, but this time wee really mean we will enforce our borders. So long as we are lenient folks will push the boundaries, violate the law, and then seek allies, like you, to become their apologists. But what Reagan did was good for America. It’s been beneficial. That’s why we should do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. Yeah, they just build these DRUG tunnels for fun: https://etsn.fm/ixp/194/p/drug-tunnel-el-paso/ https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/tunnel-discovered-arizona-border-wall-mexican-state-police-use-drones You are one of the most ignorant people to ever post on this forum. Sure but the Marines aren’t going to be able to stop that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 59 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Suddenly I have an urge to watch The Great Escape. Screenplay was written by my favorite novelist of all time, James Clavell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 Trump reinstates the expedited removal process he enacted as President last time, and which went through the courts and was determined to be legal, and that Biden rescinded as soon as he was sworn in as President: https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-01720.pdf BOOM!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Sure but the Marines aren’t going to be able to stop that. Look at little Timmy moving the goalposts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Look at little Timmy moving the goalposts There’s no goalposts moved. I wrote that putting the military on the border is for show and won’t accomplish much and I meant it. You’re right about the tunnels but they are not the main source for fetanyl- the ports are like I wrote. The tunnels are troublesome and there’s only going to be more now but we can’t stop them without information. Military force won’t do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 Just now, The Real timschochet said: There’s no goalposts moved. I wrote that putting the military on the border is for show and won’t accomplish much and I meant it. You’re right about the tunnels but they are not the main source for fetanyl- the ports are like I wrote. The tunnels are troublesome and there’s only going to be more now but we can’t stop them without information. Military force won’t do it. You said the cartels don't push drugs across the border. Now you're saying they do but not that much. That's moving the goalposts. As usual, you do it by making another statement without substantiation. This pattern happens with you all the time. Notice how I support my assertion. You just make blanket statements and never back them up. Additionally, your suggestion that we are going to use military force to stop the drug trafficking shows how little you understand about the strategy of securing our border. You're just so ignorant with such a simple minded thought process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Strike said: You said the cartels don't push drugs across the border. Now you're saying they do but not that much. That's moving the goalposts. As usual, you do it by making another statement without substantiation. This pattern happens with you all the time. Notice how I support my assertion. You just make blanket statements and never back them up. Additionally, your suggestion that we are going to use military force to stop the drug trafficking shows how little you understand about the strategy of securing our border. You're just so ignorant with such a simple minded thought process. Umm I didn’t raise the issue of using military force to stop the drug trafficking. That was @RLLD. I was responding to him. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Umm I didn’t raise the issue of using military force to stop the drug trafficking. That was @RLLD. I was responding to him. HTH Yep. That was my note. Trump is adding like 1500 bodies to the 2500 Biden put down there, I do hope he adds much more though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,950 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: But what Reagan did was good for America. It’s been beneficial. That’s why we should do it again. What Reagan did was establish the principle that though we claim we are a nation of laws we are really cowards whenever it is morally expedient to ignore the law. We are reaping the harvest of that now and have been ever since we did not have the grit to stand by our professed beliefs. Any benefits to be had from immigration or guests workers can and should be ahd from legal immigration and guest worker policies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,950 Posted January 23 Well, Time to retrain some Tunnel Rats and combine them with SeaBees to blow those things after the Rats sweep them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 318 Posted January 23 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Do you enjoy being part of the mob? Makes you feel like you belong, right? If I'm part of a mob doing the right things to do. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,580 Posted January 23 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: . I wrote that putting the military on the border is for show and won’t accomplish much and I meant it. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard from you. No, it's not for show. We lack the bodies to properly protect and secure the border. These are active duty soldiers who would typically be doing PT and training all day on base. Why not use these resources to fill in the gaps? They will serve as an extension of Border Patrol. This absolutely had to be done. Stop berating our Military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,950 Posted January 23 Tom Holman is going to have to step it up. 308 arrest in a day only amounts to 112,000 a year. That is a drop in the bucket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,580 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said: Tom Holman is going to have to step it up. 308 arrest in a day only amounts to 112,000 a year. That is a drop in the bucket. The best part is that Police officers cannot catch and release undocumented Illegals like under Pedo Joe. If they get pulled over for anything, it's back to whatever shizzhole they came from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 Glad to see them starting early and pointedly going after the most important dangers the Democrats allowed to be unleashed on to our society. They need to keep the pressure up on this, I want to see the gangs dealt with emphatically. I find it amusing that the sanctuary cities, through their bullshit virtue signaling to protect people, are effectively exposing the people to more scrutiny. It is such a liberal move to elevate social currency and posturing over simple common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Umm I didn’t raise the issue of using military force to stop the drug trafficking. That was @RLLD. I was responding to him. HTH Are you retarded? I bolded the part of your post I was responding to and it had nothing to do with the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 11 hours ago, Strike said: Additionally, your suggestion that we are going to use military force to stop the drug trafficking Again, I didn’t make this suggestion. RLLD did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Again, I didn’t make this suggestion. RLLD did. This is correct. I posted about the deployment of some military resources to the border to bulk up those military resources already there, and called out the inclusion of Marines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,539 Posted January 23 11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: There’s no goalposts moved. I wrote that putting the military on the border is for show and won’t accomplish much and I meant it. You’re right about the tunnels but they are not the main source for fetanyl- the ports are like I wrote. The tunnels are troublesome and there’s only going to be more now but we can’t stop them without information. Military force won’t do it. Maybe that is why they fired the head of the Coast Guard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, RLLD said: This is correct. I posted about the deployment of some military resources to the border to bulk up those military resources already there, and called out the inclusion of Marines I guess @Strike is the one that is re- no I won’t use that word, because I’m not an inconsiderate a$$hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I guess @Strike is the one that is re- no I won’t use that word, because I’m not an inconsiderate a$$hole. Nah....strike is ok, he and I have had some serious go-rounds on this forum, but he is smart and alert, he just misunderstood the situation, I would not read into it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,131 Posted January 23 DOJ to prosecute local officials that don't follow the federal laws and mandates. Tim - it's not happening!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Horseman said: DOJ to prosecute local officials that don't follow the federal laws and mandates. Tim - it's not happening!!!!!! God I hope this happens. The people who are advocating for illegal immigration need to go away, like forever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Nah....strike is ok, he and I have had some serious go-rounds on this forum, but he is smart and alert, he just misunderstood the situation, I would not read into it You have to go back to the post of his that I responded to and bolded ONE sentence. It had nothing to do with the military. He's moving the goal posts as he always does when proven wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, Strike said: You have to go back to the post of his that I responded to and bolded ONE sentence. It had nothing to do with the military. He's moving the goal posts as he always does when proven wrong. Why do you persist in this nonsense? In your second paragraph you mentioned the military and wrongly stated that I brought it up. That’s what I responded to. Get over it already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, RLLD said: God I hope this happens. The people who are advocating for illegal immigration need to go away, like forever Well that would include me; don’t be rude! But in this instance what we are advocating for is a society in which local police don’t inform to the government on the whereabouts of nonviolent undocumented people. It’s one thing to report the murderers, the rapists, and to see that they’re deported after serving proper time in prison. But the vast majority who don’t commit such crimes should be left alone. Thats what sanctuary cities are about, and I’m glad we have them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Well that would include me; don’t be rude! But in this instance what we are advocating for is a society in which local police don’t inform to the government on the whereabouts of nonviolent undocumented people. It’s one thing to report the murderers, the rapists, and to see that they’re deported after serving proper time in prison. But the vast majority who don’t commit such crimes should be left alone. Thats what sanctuary cities are about, and I’m glad we have them. Sorry. Just excited, they are capturing so many serious criminals and removing them from our streets, I am just so happy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: Sorry. Just excited, they are capturing so many serious criminals and removing them from our streets, I am just so happy..... If that is actually happening in a way that it didn’t happen before then I will be happy too. But forgive me for being a little skeptical. At the end of this year we can look back and see how many violent criminals were deported as compared to last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If that is actually happening in a way that it didn’t happen before then I will be happy too. But forgive me for being a little skeptical. At the end of this year we can look back and see how many violent criminals were deported as compared to last year. I think skepticism is fine, by all means, and you will likely find flaws better than I. You are keen to see them whereas by bias might be inclined to overlook them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,950 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I guess @Strike is the one that is re- no I won’t use that word, because I’m not an inconsiderate a$$hole. So, you are one of the considerate ones? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,985 Posted January 23 We have been unBidened......by what has been..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 16 hours ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. Yeah, they just build these DRUG tunnels for fun: https://etsn.fm/ixp/194/p/drug-tunnel-el-paso/ https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/tunnel-discovered-arizona-border-wall-mexican-state-police-use-drones You are one of the most ignorant people to ever post on this forum. For the record this is the post I made that little Timmy is moving the goalposts on. It was in response to his idiotic assertion that cartels don't move drugs across the border. Then he said they do but just a little; that their MAIN method of moving drugs was through our ports. Of course he provided no supporting evidence of that assertion as I did above to PROVE that the cartels DO move drugs across the border. Instead of responding to that point he has been obfuscating this tangent as he was proven wrong yet again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,631 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Strike said: For the record this is the post I made that little Timmy is moving the goalposts on. It was in response to his idiotic assertion that cartels don't move drugs across the border. Then he said they do but just a little; that their MAIN method of moving drugs was through our ports. Of course he provided no supporting evidence of that assertion as I did above to PROVE that the cartels DO move drugs across the border. Instead of responding to that point he has been obfuscating this tangent as he was proven wrong yet again. Dude that is not the post I responded to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,374 Posted January 23 “Joe Biden forever bro” “thank Obama for everything he did for me bro” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,946 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Dude that is not the post I responded to. The thread is right here. Go back and reread from where I called you out for saying cartels don't send drugs across the border. It's not that difficult. Or you could just admit you were wrong when you said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites