Mass Deportation

[Horseman 2,335]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

That assuming they didn't just drive around the block and dump all that sh1t in someone else's empty lot. 

Of course they did, that's what you get when you hire bottom feeders. Tim doesn't care as long as it's not on his property and he doesn't have to pay the dump fee. Hes human scum.  

[The Girlfriend 208]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 Hes human scum.  

Something… something… glasses houses and such.

[Horseman 2,335]

What kind of weakling can't load up a couch and take it to the dump themselves?

[TrailGuy 552]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

What kind of weakling can't load up a couch and take it to the dump themselves?

You can't even bench 150 

[The Girlfriend 208]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

What kind of weakling can't load up a couch and take it to the dump themselves?

JD Vance. He’d never let a good couch go unloved.

[Horseman 2,335]

10 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You can't even bench 150 

Link?

[HellToupee 1,570]

1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

$50/hour for the entire truckload he picks up. Probably split between 20 hombres.  

If they do a good enough job he throws in a case of Modelo 

[Maximum Overkill 1,727]

53 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

JD Vance. He’d never let a good couch go unloved.

DEI Kamala would never let a good rubber go unused. 

[CaptainObvious1 316]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

If they do a good enough job he throws in a case of Modelo 

I don't think the wife lets him give away the alcohol

[Engorgeous George 2,097]

2 hours ago, DonS said:

That assuming they didn't just drive around the block and dump all that sh1t in someone else's empty lot. 

Its a business model.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,682]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

If they do a good enough job he throws in a case of Modelo 

Like this?

 

 

[HellToupee 1,570]

Ice grabs a bad hombre in Chicago . He tears flow from an adult daughter

 

https://x.com/tr00perr/status/1884557593437229269?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

[Hardcore troubadour 14,875]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

Ice grabs a bad hombre in Chicago . He tears flow from an adult daughter

 

https://x.com/tr00perr/status/1884557593437229269?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

Good to see. You can find him in whatever third world shitthole he crawled out of with the rest of you vermin. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

I’ve been listening to some ACLU lawyers tonight. They are fighting the good fight (they are practically the only ones who are.) They are holding meetings telling these poor migrants who to call, what to do when and if ICE come knocking on their doors. 

The bastards won’t be able to deport even 5% of the folks they’re talking about, but they are creating terror in the migrant community which is absolutely shameful. Really cheering on the ACLU here. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

I’ve posted this before but here is how to donate to the ACLU: 

https://action.aclu.org/give/now?ms_aff=NAT&initms_aff=NAT&ms=web_hero_redesign_hp&initms=web_hero_redesign_hp&ms_chan=web&initms_chan=web

Almost nothing is more important right now. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,875]

46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve been listening to some ACLU lawyers tonight. They are fighting the good fight (they are practically the only ones who are.) They are holding meetings telling these poor migrants who to call, what to do when and if ICE come knocking on their doors. 

The bastards won’t be able to deport even 5% of the folks they’re talking about, but they are creating terror in the migrant community which is absolutely shameful. Really cheering on the ACLU here. 

Law Enforcement doing their jobs are now bastards. Got it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Law Enforcement doing their jobs are now bastards. Got it. 

No the ones directing them to bother those who aren’t violent criminals, and the folks cheering this policy on, are the bastards. HTH 

ETA as for the ICE agents themselves, they’re only doing as instructed, but personally I would resign first before I rounded up non violent people in mass numbers. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,875]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No the ones directing them to bother those who aren’t violent criminals, and the folks cheering this policy on, are the bastards. HTH 

ETA as for the ICE agents themselves, they’re only doing as instructed, but personally I would resign first before I rounded up non violent people in mass numbers. 

So crossing our borders illegally should hold no consequence? 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So crossing our borders illegally should hold no consequence? 

Sure. I’ve said for years fine them $5000 and put them in the system. Warn them that if they ever commit a felony they face immediate deportation, and NEVER allow them to vote. But make them legal. 
 

But your solution (deportation no matter what) is impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American. 

[supermike80 1,791]

So......I think the board agrees that deporting violent criminals, and those with outstanding deportation orders, is the right thing to do.   I agree that there will probably eventually become push back from this country when it comes to removing folks that have been here for years and haven't really caused issues.   That's yet to be seen but I would expect it.

That being said, there is a bigger picture here.  And I have said it countless times.  It's more than just removing those here.  It's about sending a message.  For the past 4 years, the message has been come on in.  We will house you, give you free stuff, give you sanctuary.  I mean that's actual incentive to come.  The message now is you are not welcome if you come here illegally.  Add to that many illegals are self deporting.  Can we even track that number?  I don't know.  

No, it is not going to 100% eliminate those that want to try. But it is going to reduce it, significantly.   The message is as important as the actions we are taking.   And I want that message to continue to be repeated over and over.  I like it when the media covers this stuff.  It furthers the message that if you wanna come here, you better do it right.  Do it wrong and there's a good chance you have ruined any future opportunity to come here legally.

[HellToupee 1,570]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve posted this before but here is how to donate to the ACLU: 

https://action.aclu.org/give/now?ms_aff=NAT&initms_aff=NAT&ms=web_hero_redesign_hp&initms=web_hero_redesign_hp&ms_chan=web&initms_chan=web

Almost nothing is more important right now. 

How much did you give?

 

”almost nothing is more important right now” what a clown statement 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

So......I think the board agrees that deporting violent criminals, and those with outstanding deportation orders, is the right thing to do.   I agree that there will probably eventually become push back from this country when it comes to removing folks that have been here for years and haven't really caused issues.   That's yet to be seen but I would expect it.

That being said, there is a bigger picture here.  And I have said it countless times.  It's more than just removing those here.  It's about sending a message.  For the past 4 years, the message has been come on in.  We will house you, give you free stuff, give you sanctuary.  I mean that's actual incentive to come.  The message now is you are not welcome if you come here illegally.  Add to that many illegals are self deporting.  Can we even track that number?  I don't know.  

No, it is not going to 100% eliminate those that want to try. But it is going to reduce it, significantly.   The message is as important as the actions we are taking.   And I want that message to continue to be repeated over and over.  I like it when the media covers this stuff.  It furthers the message that if you wanna come here, you better do it right.  Do it wrong and there's a good chance you have ruined any future opportunity to come here legally.

I submit that in addition to removing those who should be removed, we create a fast track toward citizenship for those who have been here for some designated period of time and shown to be solid members of society.

[supermike80 1,791]

30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I submit that in addition to removing those who should be removed, we create a fast track toward citizenship for those who have been here for some designated period of time and shown to be solid members of society.

Incentive based.  Works for me.  

[DonS 3,291]

3 hours ago, supermike80 said:

So......I think the board agrees that deporting violent criminals, and those with outstanding deportation orders, is the right thing to do.   I agree that there will probably eventually become push back from this country when it comes to removing folks that have been here for years and haven't really caused issues.   That's yet to be seen but I would expect it.

That being said, there is a bigger picture here.  And I have said it countless times.  It's more than just removing those here.  It's about sending a message.  For the past 4 years, the message has been come on in.  We will house you, give you free stuff, give you sanctuary.  I mean that's actual incentive to come.  The message now is you are not welcome if you come here illegally.  Add to that many illegals are self deporting.  Can we even track that number?  I don't know.  

No, it is not going to 100% eliminate those that want to try. But it is going to reduce it, significantly.   The message is as important as the actions we are taking.   And I want that message to continue to be repeated over and over.  I like it when the media covers this stuff.  It furthers the message that if you wanna come here, you better do it right.  Do it wrong and there's a good chance you have ruined any future opportunity to come here legally.

C'mon man!  The former border czar CLEARLY told them not to come here!

 

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9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve been listening to some ACLU lawyers tonight. They are fighting the good fight (they are practically the only ones who are.) They are holding meetings telling these poor migrants who to call, what to do when and if ICE come knocking on their doors. 

 

Hopefully the message is to call a relative south of the border to meet them at the border and take them home.

[TBayXXXVII 2,477]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure. I’ve said for years fine them $5000 and put them in the system. Warn them that if they ever commit a felony they face immediate deportation, and NEVER allow them to vote. But make them legal. 
 

But your solution (deportation no matter what) is impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American. 

Your solution is more "impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American", than what he said or what's happening.  Sure, fine people, nothing wrong with that.  People pay fines all the time.  After that though, what you said is completely absurd and goes against the Constitution.  If they are legal, they should be citizens.  If they're citizens, they can't be threatened with deportation.  If they're citizens, they have the constitutional right to vote.  To make people live here in fear, LEGALLY, with limited rights is a thousand times worse than deporting them.

That said, I fully expect this to be a more mainstream liberal/leftist idea.  Reason being, it makes them targets of the left to exploit.  After 10 years or so, you can claim you were wrong (which we knew at the time), and fight for them to be citizens with all rights.  That way when they get it, you can fear monger them into thinking that if Republicans get control, they'll take those rights away and deport them. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I submit that in addition to removing those who should be removed, we create a fast track toward citizenship for those who have been here for some designated period of time and shown to be solid members of society.

Wow. Sort of agreed except: 

1. They need to pay a fine. There has to be some penalty for breaking the law coming here. The public will never accept amnesty with no consequences, nor should they. 

2. They should have almost all the rights and duties of citizens but they should never be full citizens in that they should never have the right to vote. Their children can have that. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Your solution is more "impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American", than what he said or what's happening.  Sure, fine people, nothing wrong with that.  People pay fines all the time.  After that though, what you said is completely absurd and goes against the Constitution.  If they are legal, they should be citizens.  If they're citizens, they can't be threatened with deportation.  If they're citizens, they have the constitutional right to vote.  To make people live here in fear, LEGALLY, with limited rights is a thousand times worse than deporting them.

That said, I fully expect this to be a more mainstream liberal/leftist idea.  Reason being, it makes them targets of the left to exploit.  After 10 years or so, you can claim you were wrong (which we knew at the time), and fight for them to be citizens with all rights.  That way when they get it, you can fear monger them into thinking that if Republicans get control, they'll take those rights away and deport them. 

I realize that what I am proposing may be against the Constitution. I am advocating for a permanent green card status. I think it’s the best solution. And no I have no hidden motive. I truly don’t want them ever to vote. That’s not gonna change and there’s no plot. 

[seafoam1 2,791]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Wow. Sort of agreed except: 

1. They need to pay a fine. There has to be some penalty for breaking the law coming here. The public will never accept amnesty with no consequences, nor should they. 

 

Pay a fine? The liberal government was putting them in hotels. Jeez.

Just goes to show how stupid your voting record is. 

There should be only 1 penalty for the illegals. We take everything they have of actual value, and then toss them back over whatever part of the border they came in through. 

You don't have to stay there, but you can't come back here. 

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Pay a fine? The liberal government was putting them in hotels. Jeez.

Just goes to show how stupid your voting record is. 

There should be only 1 penalty for the illegals. We take everything they have of actual value, and then toss them back over whatever part of the border they came in through. 

You don't have to stay there, but you can't come back here. 

I already know your position. I find it extreme and unworkable. 

[Horseman 2,335]

Executive order instructing the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to construct a facility capable of holding 30,000 deported migrants at Guantánamo Bay naval base.

[The Real timschochet 6,356]

Just now, Horseman said:

Executive order instructing the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to construct a facility capable of holding 30,000 deported migrants at Guantánamo Bay naval base.

Glad you brought this up. Beyond being stupid and costly, it’s more evidence that this whole thing is for show. Trump is promising to deport 11 million people and you idiots actually believe him. How is a detention camp with 30,000 beds going to make the slightest difference? 
 

And when the place is full then what? You gonna fly them out of there in military planes again? If the plan is to return them to the country of origin, why send them to Cuba in the first place? So nonsensical. 

[seafoam1 2,791]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I already know your position. I find it extreme and unworkable. 

Do you actually think that everyone on this site DOESN'T know all your positions? You are on repeat at all times. 

And my way, is the best way. It's not extreme for people that are here illegally to be ousted. Liberals whine constantly because people weren't supposed to wander through the open doors of the capital and that they should be punished to the extreme. They weren't supposed to be there so they were told to leave. 

I see no difference. There are a gazillion places people aren't supposed to be so if they get caught, they get kicked out of that space. Illegals should be no different. 

 

[Horseman 2,335]

Lady took out $25,000 in loans to pay her smugglers only to be picked up by border patrol and sent on a military fight home 2 hours later.  

[MDC 7,083]

13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Executive order instructing the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to construct a facility capable of holding 30,000 deported migrants at Guantánamo Bay naval base.

Where will they house the other 10,970,000?  

[CaptainObvious1 316]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Where will they house the other 10,970,000?  

Hopefully Mexico or LA

[seafoam1 2,791]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

Where will they house the other 10,970,000?  

It's called a rotation. 30,000 at a time. You take them there first, then when you dump them on the rest of the world, you fill it up again. All the while you are slingshooting them back over into Mexico as well. Just keep your head down and keep throwing them out and then at the end of the day, we can do the counts. 

Then in 4 years we vote in Vance, and keep the work rolling. 

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One has to be a real idiot to think we're going to detain all the illegals we're going to deport before we deport any.  Note to those idiots:  We don't need detention space for illegals we've already deported.

[DonS 3,291]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

It's called a rotation. 30,000 at a time. You take them there first, then when you dump them on the rest of the world, you fill it up again. All the while you are slingshooting them back over into Mexico. Just keep your head down and keep throwing them out and then at the end of the day, we can do the counts. 

It's a FIFO queue 

 

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Just now, DonS said:

It's a FIFO queue 

 

Goes well with the FAFO queue.