Mass Deportation

[Strike 4,989]

The next phase has begun.  We can only hope they raid @The Real timschochet's place of employment next:

https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status/1892962468877815843?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1892962468877815843|twgr^23dfcc2acbe3187698ddf546f6537de7fde626ef|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fredstate.com%2Fwardclark%2F2025%2F02%2F21%2Fholding-employers-accountable-ice-hsi-charges-business-owners-for-harboring-illegal-aliens-n2185848

[TrailGuy 501]

WASHINGTON, Feb 21 - U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

Public opinion per the latest polling remains in favor of deporting non violent undocumented people, 50-48%. However that number is going down. I think it will eventually go into the negatives. I am guessing the public hasn’t really thought this through and once they do they won’t be for doing this. 

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

The next phase has begun.  We can only hope they raid @The Real timschochet's place of employment next:

https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status/1892962468877815843?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1892962468877815843|twgr^23dfcc2acbe3187698ddf546f6537de7fde626ef|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fredstate.com%2Fwardclark%2F2025%2F02%2F21%2Fholding-employers-accountable-ice-hsi-charges-business-owners-for-harboring-illegal-aliens-n2185848

You’re such a sucker for these performances. Any serious effort to clamp down on employers hiring undocumented workers would cost hundreds of billions of dollars and take resources  ICE isn’t close to having. Not to mention that it would gut our economy. It’s never going to happen. 

[RLLD 4,067]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re such a sucker for these performances. Any serious effort to clamp down on employers hiring undocumented workers would cost hundreds of billions of dollars and take resources  ICE isn’t close to having. Not to mention that it would gut our economy. It’s never going to happen. 

I see your point.  I think that was perhaps part of the calculus of opening the border.....

I think in terms of strategy, that is a good one.  I think Trump is a different animal.  I think he looks at the strategy, and chuckles...and says..."watch me do it"....   the calculus on the part of politicians who thought this was an easy win was based on what a "normal" politician would do, they would protect their own interests first....Trump is less that guy so much as the guy who says....fock you, I will do it....

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I see your point.  I think that was perhaps part of the calculus of opening the border.....

I think in terms of strategy, that is a good one.  I think Trump is a different animal.  I think he looks at the strategy, and chuckles...and says..."watch me do it"....   the calculus on the part of politicians who thought this was an easy win was based on what a "normal" politician would do, they would protect their own interests first....Trump is less that guy so much as the guy who says....fock you, I will do it....

I don’t know what the strategy is beyond a few acts for show. I’m not sure how long people will be impressed by that. They are right now. But what about a year from now when the net result is (a) less deportations than under Biden and (b) more undocumented people in this country than there are now?? Will you still be impressed by his “strategy”? 

[RLLD 4,067]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t know what the strategy is beyond a few acts for show. I’m not sure how long people will be impressed by that. They are right now. But what about a year from now when the net result is (a) less deportations than under Biden and (b) more undocumented people in this country than there are now?? Will you still be impressed by his “strategy”? 

I am referring to the strategy to allow all those immigrants to come it.   Part of the Democrats thought process was that it would be too much effort and too costly to remove them......

I think as a strategy that is sound.   But you would need a normal politician in the white house for that to work.   Trump will still remove them.

I surmise they Democrats were just confident that they would either going to he holding power or Trump would never get back in, so they were confident they could flood the nation with people they thought would be future Democrat voters.

Well, Trump won, and that is a big problem for them and this strategy.  But, I also would not that hispanics did not vote as they expected.  This was something I called out on this site in the past and was lambasted for doing.....by our more conservative friends.

My point was this.....Democrats made a mistake thinking that by just allowing all these people in they could suppress their opposition through hispanic voting because these folks are cultural conservatives, and they were running away from all these people that Democrats were now allowing it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,579]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

WASHINGTON, Feb 21 - U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

Why don’t he deport all the criminals that ICE is finding? 

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am referring to the strategy to allow all those immigrants to come it.   Part of the Democrats thought process was that it would be too much effort and too costly to remove them......

I think as a strategy that is sound.   But you would need a normal politician in the white house for that to work.   Trump will still remove them.

I surmise they Democrats were just confident that they would either going to he holding power or Trump would never get back in, so they were confident they could flood the nation with people they thought would be future Democrat voters.

Well, Trump won, and that is a big problem for them and this strategy.  But, I also would not that hispanics did not vote as they expected.  This was something I called out on this site in the past and was lambasted for doing.....by our more conservative friends.

My point was this.....Democrats made a mistake thinking that by just allowing all these people in they could suppress their opposition through hispanic voting because these folks are cultural conservatives, and they were running away from all these people that Democrats were now allowing it.

Ah OK. So you’re discussing the fantasies in your head. Got it. 
 

There was no Democrat strategy to let people in. There was a surge at the border after Covid died down as a result of the economic instability; the sheer numbers surprised and overwhelmed Biden and the authorities; they didn’t know how to handle it. I doubt Trump would have handled at any better- he would have no doubt been more responsive AND more inhumane but the result would have been the same. There was no plan. Everything that happened was a result of chaos. The rest is your fevered imagination at work. Sorry. 

[RLLD 4,067]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Ah OK. So you’re discussing the fantasies in your head. Got it. 
 

There was no Democrat strategy to let people in. There was a surge at the border after Covid died down as a result of the economic instability; the sheer numbers surprised and overwhelmed Biden and the authorities; they didn’t know how to handle it. I doubt Trump would have handled at any better- he would have no doubt been more responsive AND more inhumane but the result would have been the same. There was no plan. Everything that happened was a result of chaos. The rest is your fevered imagination at work. Sorry. 

Please.  They happily allowed people in, and of course it was because they assumed these were future Democrat voters.....    C'mon....if they had an inkling that those people might vote Republican they would have built a 200 ft wall across the entire south.

It was absolutely strategic. And frankly, it was pretty darn smart.  Except, Trump wont back down from the challenge to remove people here illegally.

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

I’m starting to understand you better @RLLD you think the Democratic Party deliberately caused the current immigration mess. You think the MsM deliberately lies to us about tariffs. You think Zelensky is deliberately prolonging the war in order to stay in power. 

You imagine an ordered world and see schemes everywhere. You think all this stuff is intricately planned by competent people with ulterior motives. Someday you will realize  the truth: we don’t live in an Orwellian world, we live in a Kafkaesque world. There is no order; nobody knows what the Fock is going on most of the time, very little is planned at all. 

[RLLD 4,067]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m starting to understand you better @RLLD you think the Democratic Party deliberately caused the current immigration mess. You think the MsM deliberately lies to us about tariffs. You think Zelensky is deliberately prolonging the war in order to stay in power. 

You imagine an ordered world and see schemes everywhere. You think all this stuff is intricately planned by competent people with ulterior motives. Someday you will realize  the truth: we don’t live in an Orwellian world, we live in a Kafkaesque world. There is no order; nobody knows what the Fock is going on most of the time, very little is planned at all. 

I’m starting to understand you better @RLLD you think the Democratic Party deliberately caused the current immigration mess.  Yes, I absolutely believe this. And in part due to their words.

You think the MsM deliberately lies to us about tariffs. Not just tariffs, but also Russian Collusion, the Hunter Biden laptop, the presence of inflation, the state of the economy, Trump being Hitler and on and on....

You think Zelensky is deliberately prolonging the war in order to stay in power.  No, this is not what I believe about Zelensky

You imagine an ordered world and see schemes everywhere. If you are no assuming schemes, notably at the highest levels, I think you are being a bit naive....history shows us we need to distrust power.

You think all this stuff is intricately planned by competent people with ulterior motives. Yes, but I might also note that I think most of those in power are self serving, and work to retain their power first....and help the people second

Someday you will realize  the truth: we don’t live in an Orwellian world, we live in a Kafkaesque world. There is no order; nobody knows what the Fock is going on most of the time, very little is planned at all.  In order to believe this you then would have to accept there is no patriarchy, or structural racism, or implicit bias or sexism that drives disparity in incomes etc....are you sure....you want to make that stand right here?

[Horseman 2,181]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

WASHINGTON, Feb 21 - U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

Pretend CFO doesn't know how to balance a checkbook.

On 2/19/2025 at 8:59 AM, Horseman said:

You understand math?   Incoming minus outgoing? 

Estimates are under Biden for the four years are a POSITIVE 11 million. 

Currently under Trump the daily result is NEGATIVE.  That's called WINNING.  

How do you not grasp that?  I mean it's as simple as balancing a checkbook. Oh, that's right, someone else in your family has to review and do that. 

 

 

[Strike 4,989]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re such a sucker for these performances. Any serious effort to clamp down on employers hiring undocumented workers would cost hundreds of billions of dollars and take resources  ICE isn’t close to having. Not to mention that it would gut our economy. It’s never going to happen. 

You're the sucker.  I don't know if you're just RETARDED or trolling.  It's not about how many deportations he does.  It's about the net game of how many illegals are here.  And the incoming flow has been reduced to a trickle:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/apprehensions-southwestern-border-plummeted-january-cbp/story?id=118908684#:~:text=From Jan. 21 through Jan. 31%2C the number of U.S. Border Patrol apprehensions along the southwest border dropped 85% from the same period in 2024%2C according to data obtained by ABC News. In the 11 days after Jan. 20%2C migrants apprehended at ports of entry declined by 93%.

When you combine the reduced number of incoming ILLEGALS with the number of deportations you have a significantly healthier state of the border compared to Biden.  And if Trump wasn't having to fight with his own countrymen on deportations the deportation numbers would be higher.  And they WILL BE.  Oh, they WILL BE.

The other things he's doing like going after businesses as noted here, stopping providing lawyers for illegals, etc....., all send the message not to come here illegally.  Which is the opposite message Biden was sending. 

[HB Localboy 34]

I feel like I am the only common sense person here sometimes....

 

We don't need to deport anyone....

You cut all section 8 for illegals

You cut all food snaps for illegals

You make it illegal to hire illegals

You make it illegal to rent to illegals

 

If they can't eat, rent a home or work they will go home on their own.

 

We don't need to deport anyone

They will deport themselves! 

 

[Strike 4,989]

3 minutes ago, HB Localboy said:

I feel like I am the only common sense person here sometimes....

 

We don't need to deport anyone....

You cut all section 8 for illegals

You cut all food snaps for illegals

You make it illegal to hire illegals

You make it illegal to rent to illegals

 

If they can't eat, rent a home or work they will go home on their own.

 

We don't need to deport anyone

They will deport themselves! 

 

It's already illegal to hire illegals.  It's also illegal to ask for immigration status when renting so that one's out the window.  But the point is valid - make it uncomfortable for them to be here and many will self deport.  That's a  FACT @The Real timschochet refuses to acknowledge.

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

23 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I’m starting to understand you better @RLLD you think the Democratic Party deliberately caused the current immigration mess.  Yes, I absolutely believe this. And in part due to their words.

You think the MsM deliberately lies to us about tariffs. Not just tariffs, but also Russian Collusion, the Hunter Biden laptop, the presence of inflation, the state of the economy, Trump being Hitler and on and on....

You think Zelensky is deliberately prolonging the war in order to stay in power.  No, this is not what I believe about Zelensky

You imagine an ordered world and see schemes everywhere. If you are no assuming schemes, notably at the highest levels, I think you are being a bit naive....history shows us we need to distrust power.

You think all this stuff is intricately planned by competent people with ulterior motives. Yes, but I might also note that I think most of those in power are self serving, and work to retain their power first....and help the people second

Someday you will realize  the truth: we don’t live in an Orwellian world, we live in a Kafkaesque world. There is no order; nobody knows what the Fock is going on most of the time, very little is planned at all.  In order to believe this you then would have to accept there is no patriarchy, or structural racism, or implicit bias or sexism that drives disparity in incomes etc....are you sure....you want to make that stand right here?

Yes because structural racism and implicit bias and sexism are not top down affairs planned by a central authority. All of those things are very real and none of them are planned. They just are. 

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's already illegal to hire illegals.  It's also illegal to ask for immigration status when renting so that one's out the window.  But the point is valid - make it uncomfortable for them to be here and many will self deport.  That's a  FACT @The Real timschochet refuses to acknowledge.

Almost none will self-deport because no matter how uncomfortable you make them it’s still better to live here than where they came from. You’re a fool if you think otherwise. They’re not leaving. 

[RLLD 4,067]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes because structural racism and implicit bias and sexism are not top down affairs planned by a central authority. All of those things are very real and none of them are planned. They just are. 

Hmmmm, no, not going to let you off the hook here.

Patriarchy as defined by the leftist media is A society is patriarchal to the degree that it promotes male privilege by being male-dominated, male-identified, and male-centered. It is also organized around an obsession with control and involves as one of its key aspects the oppression of women."  So then there has been this push against this thing that is asserted to hold down minority groups....well not Asians since this magical patriarchy was crafted to somehow exclude them

Now, if liberals want to tout these terms, and ideas, to include "implicit bias" and suggest that there is reason to push back against these things.....then I am within my right to hold that Democrats have allowed immigration, and I can push back by calling it out. 

During his presidential campaign in 2020, Biden pledged to reverse restrictive immigration policies from the previous administration. He proposed a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, reinstatement of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, and an increase in refugee admissions.  His approach was to increase the migration.

Again, if Democrats had any notion that these folks would be Republican voters, they would have protected the border, as Trump has done in just a few weeks....

[TBayXXXVII 2,435]

On 2/19/2025 at 2:22 AM, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve never been a fan of AOC in particular but I am rapidly becoming one given her fight against this ridiculous deportation effort. Tom Holman went on Fox and threatened to have her prosecuted and she laughed right in his face. “Bring it on.” 

Hopefully she ends up in federal prison.  I'm ok with her being charged with treason.

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Hopefully she ends up in federal prison.  I'm ok with her being charged with treason.

You can be OK with it all you want. She’d be acquitted in a heartbeat. I doubt they will try this because they would look like fools if they do. 

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmmm, no, not going to let you off the hook here.

Patriarchy as defined by the leftist media is A society is patriarchal to the degree that it promotes male privilege by being male-dominated, male-identified, and male-centered. It is also organized around an obsession with control and involves as one of its key aspects the oppression of women."  So then there has been this push against this thing that is asserted to hold down minority groups....well not Asians since this magical patriarchy was crafted to somehow exclude them

Now, if liberals want to tout these terms, and ideas, to include "implicit bias" and suggest that there is reason to push back against these things.....then I am within my right to hold that Democrats have allowed immigration, and I can push back by calling it out. 

During his presidential campaign in 2020, Biden pledged to reverse restrictive immigration policies from the previous administration. He proposed a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, reinstatement of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, and an increase in refugee admissions.  His approach was to increase the migration.

Again, if Democrats had any notion that these folks would be Republican voters, they would have protected the border, as Trump has done in just a few weeks....

Yes we have a patriarchy.  No it wasn’t planned 

[TBayXXXVII 2,435]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You can be OK with it all you want. She’d be acquitted in a heartbeat. I doubt they will try this because they would look like fools if they do. 

Nah, we just need the right judge, like in NY to create a narrative of guilt.

[RLLD 4,067]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes we have a patriarchy.  No it wasn’t planned 

Well, I understand your point of view here.  But I think its more of an aside to my point.  Still, if you presume the patriarchy is not by design, then it was a natural occurrence due to inherent biological systems and therefore should not be messed with. And, I might note that the areas where we have seen the most egalitarian systems we also see the system drift toward what is being called "patriarchucal"..... as it seems when given more freedoms and fewer restrictions the differenced are accentuated.....the system naturally becomes that traditional model....we are built to succeed through this system..... but I digress.

Of course Democrats have allowed unfettered migration to enhance their power.  But I submit.....this is backfiring on them.   These people want no part of the extremes that liberals now extol

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,579]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You can be OK with it all you want. She’d be acquitted in a heartbeat. I doubt they will try this because they would look like fools if they do. 

Depends where she’s charged.  That’s our justice system now thanks to the left. 

[squistion 1,787]

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1893058928511959530

In his first month in office, Trump’s administration deported 37,660 people, lower than Biden’s monthly average of 57,000 in 2024.

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1893058928511959530

In his first month in office, Trump’s administration deported 37,660 people, lower than Biden’s monthly average of 57,000 in 2024.

If they were all violent criminals then I’m good with it, and Trump’s number will be more impressive than Biden’s. But I don’t know how many are. 

[jbycho 371]

31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If they were all violent criminals then I’m good with it, and Trump’s number will be more impressive than Biden’s. But I don’t know how many are. 

Illegal means they are criminals. Good riddance to all of them.

Winning. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,669]

Hey guys, I found some rando post on Twitter that supports my view so it must be 100% fact!  It's so weird that every tweet that I find supports my view and they're all 100% accurate and true.

I also used to do this on the other forum that I personally got shut down.  

[Horseman 2,181]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1893058928511959530

In his first month in office, Trump’s administration deported 37,660 people, lower than Biden’s monthly average of 57,000 in 2024.

For the THIRD FOKING TIME here is the math, per month.  TRUMP'S VERY FIRST MONTH. 

Biden 150,000 - 57,000 = 93,000 new doushbags into the country. 

Trump 6,000 - 38,000 = 32,000 doushbags leaving the country. 

How foking hard is it to understand?

 

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Hey guys, I found some rando post on Twitter that supports my view so it must be 100% fact!

I also used to do this on the other forum that I personally got shut down.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,669]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

For the THIRD FOKING TIME here is the math, per month.  TRUMP'S VERY FIRST MONTH. 

Biden 150,000 - 57,000 = 93,000 new doushbags into the country. 

Trump 6,000 - 38,000 = 32,000 doushbags leaving the country. 

How foking hard is it to understand?

 

Facts, logic and Truth are not part of squiztards repertoire. 

All he does is slurp propaganda from the far left glory hole.  No critical thinking required.

[5-Points 3,285]

Good. Deport every illegal we find and fine/imprison those who incentives them to come here illegally. 

Get in line and wait your turn. 

[peenie 1,876]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,579]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

 

So great that she has non citizens back. I bet the citizens that elected her are very happy. How’s the reading scores in her district?

[thegeneral 2,704]

The deportation is light on the mass part.

[peenie 1,876]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So great that she has non citizens back. I bet the citizens that elected her are very happy. How’s the reading scores in her district?

You might try listening with your ears open: she was correcting misinformation. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,579]

Just now, peenie said:

You might try listening with your ears open: she was correcting misinformation. 

I doubt it. Crimes committed by illegals go undetected in many cases. I can tell you having filed out hundreds of arrest reports that there is no box to check for the immigration status of the perp. And sanctuary cities certainly arent keeping track. You’ve been hoodwinked. Bamboozled. 

[jonmx 2,357]

On 9/19/2024 at 9:43 AM, MDC said:

Most efficient way to get rid of illegals would be to absolutely hammer businesses and individuals that hire them - jail time, permanently revoking business licenses etc. But that would inconvenience business owners and the agricultural industry, so let’s focus on legal Haitians and their puppy barbecues instead. 

 

The government allows illegals in the country in bulk, transports them all around the country, houses them, gives them IDs, health care and education.  Then you are gonna hammer businesses who put them to work so they can take care of themselves?  The retarded logic of bootlickers always amazes me.

[Mark Davis 310]

This thread is schizophrenic.  Depending on the moment, Trump is either deporting fewer people than Biden or his deportations are an example of how he's the most racist and unfit President in our history.

[The Real timschochet 5,822]

7 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

This thread is schizophrenic.  Depending on the moment, Trump is either deporting fewer people than Biden or his deportations are an example of how he's the most racist and unfit President in our history.

It’s both. He’s doing bad things but he’s doing them badly. 

(FTR, Trump is not close to the most racist President in history. Post Civil War-slaveowners don’t count- that would have to be Woodrow Wilson. Trump IS racist but nowhere near that racist. As for most unfit, I would say yeah a good case can be made for Trump.)