thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 8 minutes ago, HellToupee said: What a weird bump This will be a one of the major issues of this administration day 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He “truther” about it. I think how this plays out is still fluid. We already have agencies like ICE who will do the rounding up... that is part of their job after all. My guess is the use of the military would be to carry out the deportations since there'll be a lot of people. Also, it might be necessary when liberal governments want to commit treason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 On 9/19/2024 at 8:58 AM, RaiderHaters Revenge said: here is how 1) close the border 2) eliminate the non sense "asylum" claims 3) deport anyone arrested for a crime start with that then go from there no benefits, no money, no housing ZERO This will be the blue print, right? In actual practice it has potential to get all focked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: We already have agencies like ICE who will do the rounding up... that is part of their job after all. My guess is the use of the military would be to carry out the deportations since there'll be a lot of people. Also, it might be necessary when liberal governments want to commit treason. Can you explain what you mean in the last sentence and how you would see that playing out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,044 Posted November 18 15 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This will be the blue print, right? In actual practice it has potential to get all focked up. should be the blueprint, every american believes in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Can you explain what you mean in the last sentence and how you would see that playing out? People crossing into the US are committing a crime. The federal government has the legal right to deport them. If there are elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job, that could be seen as treason. I'm ok with that. I'm ok with using the federal government to use the military (if necessary, generally just an FBI agent doing this... but leftists are pretty intolerant and hateful), to arrest such government officials. Now, I'm a very reasonable person. I'm willing to be rather lenient. If said elected official committing treason were willing to say "Yeah, sorry, I was wrong. I'll help you carry out the rule of law.", then this person can be allowed to do their job and go back to the position they held. Now, if they want to be a belligerent leftist scumbag, again, I'm still willing to be lenient. I'd allow them to choose their penalty for committing treason. How many governments would allow that? See, I'm a nice guy. They can either chose to forfeit their citizenship and be exiled from the US forever. OR, they can choose the death penalty. I think giving these people 2 chances to help themselves for committing treason way more than fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: should be the blueprint, every american believes in 6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: People crossing into the US are committing a crime. The federal government has the legal right to deport them. If there are elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job, that could be seen as treason. I'm ok with that. I'm ok with using the federal government to use the military (if necessary, generally just an FBI agent doing this... but leftists are pretty intolerant and hateful), to arrest such government officials. Now, I'm a very reasonable person. I'm willing to be rather lenient. If said elected official committing treason were willing to say "Yeah, sorry, I was wrong. I'll help you carry out the rule of law.", then this person can be allowed to do their job and go back to the position they held. Now, if they want to be a belligerent leftist scumbag, again, I'm still willing to be lenient. I'd allow them to choose their penalty for committing treason. How many governments would allow that? See, I'm a nice guy. They can either chose to forfeit their citizenship and be exiled from the US forever. OR, they can choose the death penalty. I think giving these people 2 chances to help themselves for committing treason way more than fair. If we are talking people who have been arrested for major crimes and dumping them someplace outside the country, i think most would consider that an easy win. Even this has potential for huge fockups. I do think people will look past that to a certain extent. The government, cops, have been known to mess up a three car parade however. With anything of this scale it will be prone to disaster in the details, someone on the ground having to actually execute the plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If we are talking people who have been arrested for major crimes and dumping them someplace outside the country, i think most would consider that an easy win. Even this has potential for huge fockups. I do think people will look past that to a certain extent. The government, cops, have been known to mess up a three car parade however. With anything of this scale it will be prone to disaster in the details, someone on the ground having to actually execute the plan. Sounds like you’re rooting for it. Because you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sounds like you’re rooting for it. Because you are. Add something useful or go fock off, gramps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,044 Posted November 18 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If we are talking people who have been arrested for major crimes and dumping them someplace outside the country, i think most would consider that an easy win. Even this has potential for huge fockups. I do think people will look past that to a certain extent. The government, cops, have been known to mess up a three car parade however. With anything of this scale it will be prone to disaster in the details, someone on the ground having to actually execute the plan. what do you consider major crime? I would start with any DUI, theft etc and anything worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If we are talking people who have been arrested for major crimes and dumping them someplace outside the country, i think most would consider that an easy win. Even this has potential for huge fockups. I do think people will look past that to a certain extent. The government, cops, have been known to mess up a three car parade however. With anything of this scale it will be prone to disaster in the details, someone on the ground having to actually execute the plan. The criminals should be Phase 1 and the one should/must be carried out. Even though common sense says that everyone should be in favor of this, we know for a fact that there have been local elected officials protecting these people in terms of, letting them back out into society. If they had just turned them over, then I think there'd be a lot less of an issue. The government always screws things up... even perfectly laid out plans (even though, if the government is coming up with those plans, they aren't perfect), but that should prevent them from actually trying to their job. Heck, they screw things up that are legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: what do you consider major crime? I would start with any DUI, theft etc and anything worse This is a perfect example of the details. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The criminals should be Phase 1 and the one should/must be carried out. Even though common sense says that everyone should be in favor of this, we know for a fact that there have been local elected officials protecting these people in terms of, letting them back out into society. If they had just turned them over, then I think there'd be a lot less of an issue. The government always screws things up... even perfectly laid out plans (even though, if the government is coming up with those plans, they aren't perfect), but that should prevent them from actually trying to their job. Heck, they screw things up that are legal. We will see. This is rife for disaster. If I were running this I’d start with bouncing people who are in prison who have face tattoos. Easy win. The actual plan is unknown. This was a big problem in Trump 1.0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,664 Posted November 18 50 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: If there are elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job, that could be seen as treason. I'm ok with that. Tell me again your thoughts on Jan 6. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,164 Posted November 18 39 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Add something useful or go fock off, gramps. Ok, later on. I have things to do. You’ll still be here. All day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,022 Posted November 18 19 minutes ago, thegeneral said: We will see. This is rife for disaster. If I were running this I’d start with bouncing people who are in prison who have face tattoos. Easy win. The actual plan is unknown. This was a big problem in Trump 1.0. Don’t worry, that nazi Steven miller is working on it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 5,232 Posted November 18 All for show. The MAGA folks are gonna love the show coming up in a few months. Liberals, including myself, are going to hate the show. We will scream, rightfully, about cruelty, and the MAGAS will enjoy the screaming and behave like a$$holes, basically. But in the end very little will change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok, later on. I have things to do. You’ll still be here. All day. Ok. We’ll chat later old timer. Enjoy your big day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: All for show. The MAGA folks are gonna love the show coming up in a few months. Liberals, including myself, are going to hate the show. We will scream, rightfully, about cruelty, and the MAGAS will enjoy the screaming and behave like a$$holes, basically. But in the end very little will change. This is a very possible outcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: Tell me again your thoughts on Jan 6. LOL, King Irony has an opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,754 Posted November 18 Mr. 110k posts cracking wise about someone else being here “all day.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: All for show. The MAGA folks are gonna love the show coming up in a few months. Liberals, including myself, are going to hate the show. We will scream, rightfully, about cruelty, and the MAGAS will enjoy the screaming and behave like a$$holes, basically. But in the end very little will change. If we eliminated sanctuary cities and states and didn't have an open border policy, this issue would be negligible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: If we eliminated sanctuary cities and states and didn't have an open border policy, this issue would be negligible. Would you like to see for instance a restaurant raided that was reported to have illegals working in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,664 Posted November 18 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: LOL, King Irony has an opinion. Who is King Irony, and what is his (their?) opinion? I didn't offer an opinion, if you're referring to me. I asked you to restate your thoughts on the events of 1/6/21, which was sparked by this statement: 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: If there are elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job, that could be seen as treason. I'm ok with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Would you like to see for instance a restaurant raided that was reported to have illegals working in it? Are they convicted criminals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 Just now, Fnord said: Who is King Irony, and what is his (their?) opinion? I didn't offer an opinion, if you're referring to me. I asked you to restate your thoughts on the events of 1/6/21, which was sparked by this statement: You are King Irony. Virtually every post of yours is calling out Republicans of doing things the Democrats are doing and/or have done. Your posts are pretty entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Are they convicted criminals This would make a difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,022 Posted November 18 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: All for show. The MAGA folks are gonna love the show coming up in a few months. Liberals, including myself, are going to hate the show. We will scream, rightfully, about cruelty, and the MAGAS will enjoy the screaming and behave like a$$holes, basically. But in the end very little will change. Don’t scream, it’s ghey. And it’s gotten democrats nowhere. Point out the injustice, certainly. But it ain’t our fault and there isn’t sh1t we can do about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,252 Posted November 18 18 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Would you like to see for instance a restaurant raided that was reported to have illegals working in it? Eventually but that’s not going to be a high priority. Probably very low on the totem pole unless they are a bad hombre. Commit crimes and they will find themselves in a trick bag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,664 Posted November 18 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: You are King Irony. Virtually every post of yours is calling out Republicans of doing things the Democrats are doing and/or have done. Your posts are pretty entertaining. My love of the irony MAGA heaps upon me daily is well known, so I appreciate the new nickname. I'm glad that I entertain you, after all why else are we here? But you do keep avoiding the question I'm asking. I would wonder why, but I already know. MAGA are going to have a helluva time defending their choice in leadership without being gigantic hypocrites. Yours is just the first of what I expect to be a torrent of GC posts that are idealistically incompatible. In fact, claiming that elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job should be seen as treason, while conveniently ignoring Trump's role in the events of 1/6/21, is an absolutely perfect example. Thank you! But since your guy is the one running the (shlt)show, you're cool with it. Don't worry. You'll be in the MAGA majority of shedding beliefs to support a narcissistic plutocrat. It will be normal, probably even a badge of honor, in the near term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 9 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Eventually but that’s not going to be a high priority. Probably very low on the totem pole unless they are a bad hombre. Commit crimes and they will find themselves in a trick bag Eventually you see raids on places where illegals are said to be working? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 25 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This would make a difference? Certainly. Do you want the food you're about to eat, be prepared by convicted criminals? I certainly don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Certainly. Do you want the food you're about to eat, be prepared by convicted criminals? I certainly don't. I don’t really think about it TBH. This seems highly unrealistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: My love of the irony MAGA heaps upon me daily is well known, so I appreciate the new nickname. I'm glad that I entertain you, after all why else are we here? But you do keep avoiding the question I'm asking. I would wonder why, but I already know. MAGA are going to have a helluva time defending their choice in leadership without being gigantic hypocrites. Yours is just the first of what I expect to be a torrent of GC posts that are idealistically incompatible. In fact, claiming that elected officials preventing the federal government from doing their job should be seen as treason, while conveniently ignoring Trump's role in the events of 1/6/21, is an absolutely perfect example. Thank you! But since your guy is the one running the (shlt)show, you're cool with it. Don't worry. You'll be in the MAGA majority of shedding beliefs to support a narcissistic plutocrat. It will be normal, probably even a badge of honor, in the near term. Like I said, you're constantly calling out Republican's for doing things that Democrats are currently doing, hence the nickname. It wouldn't be so bad if you were doing it from a pedestal of superiority, but here we are. What would you like to know about my opinion of January 6th? That Trump gave a heads up to the Capitol Police and to make sure they kept everyone in check? That when he said to send in the National Guard, Pelosi said "No"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,363 Posted November 18 13 minutes ago, Fnord said: MAGA are going to have a helluva time defending their choice in leadership Biden/Harris voter says what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,390 Posted November 18 Just now, thegeneral said: I don’t really think about it TBH. This seems highly unrealistic. Ok, then why the question? Weren't we talking about deporting convicted criminals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,490 Posted November 18 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: Ok, then why the question? Weren't we talking about deporting convicted criminals? Taking about that this means. It’s al very vague to me what people actually want and what they will actually do. Kind of comically so. I get that it won’t be all laid out in a campaign but now we are here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,363 Posted November 18 Just now, thegeneral said: Taking about that this means. It’s al very vague to me what people actually want and what they will actually do. Kind of comically so. I get that it won’t be all laid out in a campaign but now we are here. Didn't Obama deport almost 5 million? Except nobody has a problem with it, till now. Hypocrites gonna hypocrite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,664 Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Like I said, you're constantly calling out Republican's for doing things that Democrats are currently doing, hence the nickname. It wouldn't be so bad if you were doing it from a pedestal of superiority, but here we are. What would you like to know about my opinion of January 6th? That Trump gave a heads up to the Capitol Police and to make sure they kept everyone in check? That when he said to send in the National Guard, Pelosi said "No"? DJT sat in the dining room of the white house for several hours watching the events unfold on 1/6. He could have called in the NG himself, but did not. If he wanted them there, they would have been dispatched. That is a perfect example of an elected official preventing the federal government from doing their job, which you argue "could be seen as treason. I'm ok with that." Based solely on these facts, if you are being intellectually consistent and honest, you believe Trump committed treason. If you can point to me calling out Republicans for doing things for which I support Democrats doing, I'd love to see those posts. "Lawfare" doesn't count, since I do not believe any of the charges against Trump were unwarranted. Have at it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,252 Posted November 18 20 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Eventually you see raids on places where illegals are said to be working? I don’t think they have much to worry about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites