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On 9/30/2024 at 2:49 PM, Mike Honcho said:

 

I'm getting the exact opposite take-away than you are, he's not saying there are plans to clamp down on speech, he's saying it's easier than ever to put out false information, and as currently read and interpreted there is nothing that can be down to stop the spreading of that fake information. 

 

Is the GOP the only dishonest party-no, but IMO they are much more dishonest, in quantity and magnitude than the Dems.  There are too many examples to even bother with a list.  And yes, the first amendment for good or bad(bad in this case) is a major block to stopping the spread of misinformation.  

shows just how partisan you really are.  The disinformation act the Dems tried to pass gives them the right to discern what is right free speech & what is wrong free speech.  the Dems also attacked major news outlets to limit information that they deemed not beneficial to them & they(media) actually did it.  that is Nazi Goebbels type of stuff and seems you agree with it so long as your party does it.  first amendment to you & the Dems:  pffffft.

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On 9/30/2024 at 12:49 PM, Mike Honcho said:

 

I'm getting the exact opposite take-away than you are, he's not saying there are plans to clamp down on speech, he's saying it's easier than ever to put out false information, and as currently read and interpreted there is nothing that can be down to stop the spreading of that fake information. 

 

Is the GOP the only dishonest party-no, but IMO they are much more dishonest, in quantity and magnitude than the Dems.  There are too many examples to even bother with a list.  And yes, the first amendment for good or bad(bad in this case) is a major block to stopping the spread of misinformation.  

Be better Mike. Disinformation is only determined by those in charge. 

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On 10/1/2024 at 2:02 PM, supermike80 said:

Oh Bull.  See..I hate this crap.  Both are dishonest, none more than others.  The only reason you believe the GOP is worse is because of the media machine behind it.

The dems hid Biden's mental impairment for a LONG TIME...The media bought into it.  Enough to convince simple minded people like Timmy and Squish that he was fully capable.   Isn't that a huge magnitude lie?

Biden was never fully capable.  He's been a liar and a fool his whole career.  

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On 9/30/2024 at 2:49 PM, Mike Honcho said:

 

I'm getting the exact opposite take-away than you are, he's not saying there are plans to clamp down on speech, he's saying it's easier than ever to put out false information, and as currently read and interpreted there is nothing that can be down to stop the spreading of that fake information. 

 

Is the GOP the only dishonest party-no, but IMO they are much more dishonest, in quantity and magnitude than the Dems.  There are too many examples to even bother with a list.  And yes, the first amendment for good or bad(bad in this case) is a major block to stopping the spread of misinformation.  

We had a good run, people like this is why it's probably over.

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On 9/27/2024 at 10:43 AM, MDC said:

:lol: Classic.

”They’re eating the dogs! They’re eating the cats!” Thanks for passing along that unverified report from your Nazi skank side piece, Don.

It happened, but it’s not widespread

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22 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

It happened, but it’s not widespread

I see you’re still at Step 1. :( 

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7 minutes ago, MDC said:

I see you’re still at Step 1. :( 

But an estimated 30 million dogs across Asia, including stolen family pets, are still killed for human consumption every year, according to the Humane Society International., external

While not widespread, the charity says the practice is most common in China, South Korea, The Philippines, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and the region of Nagaland in India.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-39577557

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10 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

 

But an estimated 30 million dogs across Asia, including stolen family pets, are still killed for human consumption every year, according to the Humane Society International., external

While not widespread, the charity says the practice is most common in China, South Korea, The Philippines, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and the region of Nagaland in India.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-39577557

2. It’s happening, just not in the numbers / place / frequency that I claimed. :o 

:D 

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On 9/30/2024 at 1:24 PM, Fnord said:

But do we then just wait for the next disaster, at which point crooked opportunists flood the world with incorrect and potentially dangerous information without repercussion, and people die?

 

 

Who decides what is potentially dangerous misinformation? Dems want it to be them and only them. They know they will never suffer any repercussions. Covid proved that. They increased their power and that's all they care about.  

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5 hours ago, MDC said:

2. It’s happening, just not in the numbers / place / frequency that I claimed. :o 

:D 

No, I said it happened. That is singular. Try to keep up.

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5 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

Who decides what is potentially dangerous misinformation? Dems want it to be them and only them. They know they will never suffer any repercussions. Covid proved that. They increased their power and that's all they care about.  

I stated upthread that I don’t have any good answers. Basically no one can be trusted with that power, especially those that would want it.

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8 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

No, I said it happened. That is singular. Try to keep up.

3. Something like it has happened before. :unsure:
 

:D 

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9 hours ago, Fnord said:

I stated upthread that I don’t have any good answers. 

Like you really needed to say this...😆

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Fun Fact:  Trump drew a bigger audience in one campaign stop than Kamala has this entire election.

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I am so sick of the lying bastards headline.   No pollster thinks Harris is winning PA.  

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Joe Biden and Jill Biden hate Kamala. That's why after Kamala said DeSantis was playing political games, Biden said the opposite. That DeSantis was doing a great job. The campaign for Harris has been a total train wreck. Oh don't forget the 60 minutes interview where they changed one of her nonsense babbling answers to make her sound like someone with at least a 78 iq.

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Trump promises to cut energy costs in half

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1844519386557628883?s=19

Now obviously there's no guarantee he can do this. The important part is that his policies could accomplish this. It's definitely possible with Trump.

With kamala it isn't possible. She will not allow the use of our natural oil to reduce energy costs. They cannot come down significantly with her.

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58 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Trump promises to cut energy costs in half

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1844519386557628883?s=19

Now obviously there's no guarantee he can do this. The important part is that his policies could accomplish this. It's definitely possible with Trump.

With kamala it isn't possible. She will not allow the use of our natural oil to reduce energy costs. They cannot come down significantly with her.

 But Kamala is going to go after landlords charging “too much”. Because that’s the job of the president.  

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1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Trump promises to cut energy costs in half

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1844519386557628883?s=19

Now obviously there's no guarantee he can do this. The important part is that his policies could accomplish this. It's definitely possible with Trump.

With kamala it isn't possible. She will not allow the use of our natural oil to reduce energy costs. They cannot come down significantly with her.

It is not possible with Trump. It is possible with Harris, over many years, if we begin the process of finding alternatives to oil and gas. 
 

A Trump Presidency will result in a rise, not decrease, in fuel costs (and all other costs.) 

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25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It is not possible with Trump. It is possible with Harris, over many years, if we begin the process of finding alternatives to oil and gas. 
 

A Trump Presidency will result in a rise, not decrease, in fuel costs (and all other costs.) 

You really should keep your wish casting lies in your own thread.  

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1 hour ago, Horseman said:

You really should keep your wish casting lies in your own thread.  

You’re right. A self professed, self made multi millionaire like yourself is just so much smarter than me. 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 But Kamala is going to go after landlords charging “too much”. Because that’s the job of the president.  

The Government paying top dollar to house illegals is going to keep increasing rent. Her $25k for special people to buy houses will increase mortgages.

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 

Trash polling which intentionally overcounts Democrats for the purpose of supporting a false narrative to produce propaganda for the elitist bastard's media.   You are being lied to.  Polymarkets have figured this all out and Trump has skyrocketed to a 13-point lead in the predictive markets.  Trump will win PA by 4+ points.  It is not really close. 

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8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re right. A self professed, self made multi millionaire like yourself is just so much smarter than me. 

You finally got something right. 

No inherited business from daddy here. Maybe if you ever had to work for something your entire life you wouldn't be such a liberal cuck.  

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6 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

Trash polling which intentionally overcounts Democrats for the purpose of supporting a false narrative to produce propaganda for the elitist bastard's media.   You are being lied to.  Polymarkets have figured this all out and Trump has skyrocketed to a 13-point lead in the predictive markets.  Trump will win PA by 4+ points.  It is not really close. 

Got your bunker ready for when Trump loses? Tripwires all set up? Scopes sighted? Have some good liberal kill zones in mind? Explosive devices and detonators all dialed in?

Fascist. Terrorist. Chump.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Got your bunker ready for when Trump loses? Tripwires all set up? Scopes sighted? Have some good liberal kill zones in mind? Explosive devices and detonators all dialed in?

Fascist. Terrorist. Chump.

You haven't even the slightest clue what fascism is.   I will be laughing my arse off at the trail of tears as leftist bastards flee the country because they can't handle real freedom.   

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6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Got your bunker ready for when Trump loses? Tripwires all set up? Scopes sighted? Have some good liberal kill zones in mind? Explosive devices and detonators all dialed in?

Fascist. Terrorist. Chump.

Voting for the candidate that’s going to order landlords to charge less. And corporations not to charge what they can get. Seems you’re not clear on what fascism is.   

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34 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You haven't even the slightest clue what fascism is.   I will be laughing my arse off at the trail of tears as leftist bastards flee the country because they can't handle real freedom.   

They won't flee.  They SAY they will, but they won't.  

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25 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You haven't even the slightest clue what fascism is.   I will be laughing my arse off at the trail of tears as leftist bastards flee the country because they can't handle real freedom.   

"Real freedom." Sure. What is fascism? How many of it's characteristics are inherent in today's MAGA movement?

1.Extreme Nationalism: Check!

2.Cult of Personality: Big, giant, radioactive check!

3. Popular mobilization: Big MAGA rallies obviously show how much more Trump is loved! Check!

How do fascists come to power?

1. Emerging out of disillusionment: Obama was a divisive Muslim racist that wasn't even born here! We must rebel! Check!

2. Establishing legitimacy as a political party: Or, as the case may be, swallowing an existing political party whole. Another Check!

3. Gaining power via right-wing partnerships: "partnering with conservatives, who advocated for traditional values, including nationalism and law and order. Conservatives recognized that fascists wanted to overthrow the political establishment; however, the two groups found common cause over their shared hatred and fear of socialists" liberals, in this case. Checkity-check!

4. Using Power to dominate institutions: GOP platform: consolidate control under the Executive of "impartial" institutions like the DOJ and Federal Reserve, disembowel the EPA and other regulatory agencies, partner with state-level bureaucrats to affect desired outcomes in elections, censor books, ignore the CDC and NIH, I could go on and on. Yet another Check!

5. Implementing Radical Reforms: Fire federal employees to replace them with loyalists, deport millions of people, nationwide abortion bans, imprisoning political foes. All of which have been proposed by either Trump himself and/or one of his cronies. Check Mate!

MAGA is 8-for-8. I feel very comfortable calling you a fascist, Jon. It's not my problem that you're too ignorant and partisan to recognize it. 

 

 

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Don’t forget that lawyers that have represented Trump have been targeted by dark money groups like 65 project. Liberals are ok with this.  

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I remember being taught about how all those fascists were impeached twice and indicted numerous times. 

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I remember being taught about how all those fascists were impeached twice and indicted numerous times. 

Yup. The system still works. Until Trump gets elected cheats his way into winning again. Then all bets are off, he'll close down the investigations into himself and tell his toadie AG to indict a few hundred of his most reviled opponents with Trumped (HA!) up charges. It's like you're not paying attention.

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9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Yup. The system still works. Until Trump gets elected cheats his way into winning again. Then all bets are off, he'll close down the investigations into himself and tell his toadie AG to indict a few hundred of his most reviled opponents with Trumped (HA!) up charges. It's like you're not paying attention.

Like last time? 

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

"Real freedom." Sure. What is fascism? How many of it's characteristics are inherent in today's MAGA movement?

1.Extreme Nationalism: Check!

2.Cult of Personality: Big, giant, radioactive check!

3. Popular mobilization: Big MAGA rallies obviously show how much more Trump is loved! Check!

How do fascists come to power?

1. Emerging out of disillusionment: Obama was a divisive Muslim racist that wasn't even born here! We must rebel! Check!

2. Establishing legitimacy as a political party: Or, as the case may be, swallowing an existing political party whole. Another Check!

3. Gaining power via right-wing partnerships: "partnering with conservatives, who advocated for traditional values, including nationalism and law and order. Conservatives recognized that fascists wanted to overthrow the political establishment; however, the two groups found common cause over their shared hatred and fear of socialists" liberals, in this case. Checkity-check!

4. Using Power to dominate institutions: GOP platform: consolidate control under the Executive of "impartial" institutions like the DOJ and Federal Reserve, disembowel the EPA and other regulatory agencies, partner with state-level bureaucrats to affect desired outcomes in elections, censor books, ignore the CDC and NIH, I could go on and on. Yet another Check!

5. Implementing Radical Reforms: Fire federal employees to replace them with loyalists, deport millions of people, nationwide abortion bans, imprisoning political foes. All of which have been proposed by either Trump himself and/or one of his cronies. Check Mate!

MAGA is 8-for-8. I feel very comfortable calling you a fascist, Jon. It's not my problem that you're too ignorant and partisan to recognize it. 

 

 

 

That is how fascist dipshits defined fascism to cover up the fact they are the actual fascists.   Your retarded description pushed by the fascist elitists does not even mention totalitarianism as a key tenant of fascism.   Fascism is a corporate monopoly and authoritarian government alliance controlling the means of production and controlling the masses.  Nationalism, populism and cultism are not fundamentally what fascism is about.  You effing idiots bootlick for the real fascists who want to control everything you consume, all information you recieve, what you can say, and severely limit your reproduction.  Effing leftist Democrat morons are marching as fast as they can towards turning America into a fascist state where individuals have no rights.  You can stuff your fascist government up your butt.

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

"Real freedom." Sure. What is fascism? How many of it's characteristics are inherent in today's MAGA movement?

1.Extreme Nationalism: Check!

2.Cult of Personality: Big, giant, radioactive check!

3. Popular mobilization: Big MAGA rallies obviously show how much more Trump is loved! Check!

How do fascists come to power?

1. Emerging out of disillusionment: Obama was a divisive Muslim racist that wasn't even born here! We must rebel! Check!

2. Establishing legitimacy as a political party: Or, as the case may be, swallowing an existing political party whole. Another Check!

3. Gaining power via right-wing partnerships: "partnering with conservatives, who advocated for traditional values, including nationalism and law and order. Conservatives recognized that fascists wanted to overthrow the political establishment; however, the two groups found common cause over their shared hatred and fear of socialists" liberals, in this case. Checkity-check!

4. Using Power to dominate institutions: GOP platform: consolidate control under the Executive of "impartial" institutions like the DOJ and Federal Reserve, disembowel the EPA and other regulatory agencies, partner with state-level bureaucrats to affect desired outcomes in elections, censor books, ignore the CDC and NIH, I could go on and on. Yet another Check!

5. Implementing Radical Reforms: Fire federal employees to replace them with loyalists, deport millions of people, nationwide abortion bans, imprisoning political foes. All of which have been proposed by either Trump himself and/or one of his cronies. Check Mate!

MAGA is 8-for-8. I feel very comfortable calling you a fascist, Jon. It's not my problem that you're too ignorant and partisan to recognize it. 

 

 

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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10 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

@Fnord is clueless on every word he uses.  Only an effing moron thinks individual freedom is fascism.   

Meanwhile the left is stripping away every individual right we have on a daily basis.  Spying on us 24/7.  Controlling what information we have access to.  Censoring our speech.  Eliminating our right to self-defense.  Political persecution to those who stand up to their corrupt authority.   The only 'rights' they fight for are aborting as many babies as possible, castration of young children, assisted suicide and fighting meaningless wars. Why, because those bastards only care about population reduction.  Elitists hate people and want to weed other people out and control the ones who are left. Those are the effing fascists.  

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49 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I'm pretty confident in it's definition and usage. That's one of the reasons I posted about it.

Look, I'm not claiming that everyone voting for Trump is pro-fascism; quite the opposite. Most are normal freedom loving people being duped. I don't play games like @jonmx where I accuse everyone that's ever voted Republican of being guilty of supporting all the bad things the GOP has ever attempted. And I'm also not going to guarantee that a Trump victory automatically means we are done as a free nation.

But I do see the parallels, and wish people supporting Trump would see it for themselves. There is nothing being proposed by Harris that is even close to some of the extreme measures put out by Trump, his allies, and Project 2025. I hope I'm wrong about him and what his election might mean.

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