Democrats teach their kids intolerance

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

Neither party can claim tolerance right now.

Also, any person discussing politics in front of a 10 year old as a means of conditioning them in some way either ideologically or to get them to hate someone should have their head examined

[Maximum Overkill 1,430]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Neither party can claim tolerance right now.

Also, any person discussing politics in front of a 10 year old as a means of conditioning them in some way either ideologically or to get them to hate someone should have their head examined

Except Woke school teachers who push their Woke Homosexual ideology onto kids 

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I saw Tool in concert earlier this year.  Much of it was from Fear Inoculum, but they played this song.   

Me too.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

It’s funny this issue just came up. My 11 year old daughter  belongs to a local young people’s theatre group.  The play this season is the 25th annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. She was given the character of Swartzy, the politically driven character with two gay fathers.  She has lots of lines that don’t warm my heart. The show must go on.  

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48 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Except Woke school teachers who push their Woke Homosexual ideology onto kids 

That's (D)ifferent.

[jerryskids 6,198]

2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Imagine conducting such a study.  What does it say about us that a researcher thought such a study would reveal something interesting about ourselves?

They probably expected the Lefties to be more tolerant.  Because that's what we've been programmed to believe.

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Neither party can claim tolerance right now.

Also, any person discussing politics in front of a 10 year old as a means of conditioning them in some way either ideologically or to get them to hate someone should have their head examined

I appreciate your whataboutism, but in the context of this thread, which is parents teaching their children intolerance for the other side, it's pretty clear that one side is more tolerant.  

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7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

They probably expected the Lefties to be more tolerant.  Because that's what we've been programmed to believe.

I lament that we are in a time where research, supposed scholarship, has devolved to asking blantantly partisan questions, likely, in my view to add feul to the raging partisan fire.

 

I need shelter from the storm, from the raging fire.

 

[TimHauck 2,485]

2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Imagine conducting such a study.  What does it say about us that a researcher thought such a study would reveal something interesting about ourselves?

From the study:

 Drawing on Stanford University Professor Shanto Iyengar’s research with fellow political scientist Matthew Tyler, which highlighted increasing political polarization among teenagers, this project sought to understand the extent to which similar divisions are reflected among younger children. AC 360 producers collaborated with Professor Iyengar and Professor Asheley Landrum, a media psychologist at Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication with expertise in children’s cognitive development. Together, we crafted an interview protocol for 4th-grade students from elementary schools in politically contrasting districts, aiming to gauge and document the early signs of political polarization in children.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

From the study:

 Drawing on Stanford University Professor Shanto Iyengar’s research with fellow political scientist Matthew Tyler, which highlighted increasing political polarization among teenagers, this project sought to understand the extent to which similar divisions are reflected among younger children. AC 360 producers collaborated with Professor Iyengar and Professor Asheley Landrum, a media psychologist at Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication with expertise in children’s cognitive development. Together, we crafted an interview protocol for 4th-grade students from elementary schools in politically contrasting districts, aiming to gauge and document the early signs of political polarization in children.

I am just saying the questions we ask are a reflection of ourselves.  Not an earth-shattering observztiuon, i know, but one worth reminding ourselves of, from time to time.

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Disheartening study. We try not to talk politics in front of our kids, and when they overhear something derogatory about Trump, I try to couch it with a statement like "this is what mom and dad believe, but many people don't agree with us, and in the end we're all Americans with more in common than not."

Personally, I'm not a Democrat, I don't blindly support any liberal policies, acknowledge the many negative consequences of policies that I do mostly agree with, and staunchly hate the party itself. I am not pleased with Biden or Harris as a candidate. Unfortunately for all of us, the GOP is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump org, and refuse to find a better nominee, despite him being the most reviled candidate ever. Find someone better and this election would already be over, FFS.

ETA: I have absolutely no idea what any of our kids' friends' parents political leanings are, and don't GAF.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

. Still thinks the GOP and Trump are the same thing. They aren’t. He just took their voters. That’s why they hate him more than you do.  

[edjr 6,336]

On 9/27/2024 at 8:16 PM, IGotWorms said:

People have always bullied weirdos

sorry your life has been rough 

[edjr 6,336]

my 11 year old son hates trump, because you know public skewl is a liberal cesspool. 

anyway, when anyone says this(not just my son), I always ask “why” give me one reason. s

 

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31 minutes ago, edjr said:

my 11 year old son hates trump, because you know public skewl is a liberal cesspool. 

anyway, when anyone says this(not just my son), I always ask “why” give me one reason. s

 

Your son is too young, but according to every political ad I’m seeing, it’s that Trump took away their ability to kill babies. 

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14 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks, Gutter!  So much wrong in this post, I'm not sure where to start.

Let's start with tolerance:  the Left is the party of pseudo tolerance.  Sure, you love the IDEA of inclusion, but NIMBY.  Or are you inviting a bunch of migrants to take over your upper middle class NJ city?  They sure did in Martha's Vineyard!  From CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/17/us/marthas-vineyard-migrants-journey-desantis/index.html#:~:text=The migrants were put up,they arrived on Martha's Vineyard.

 

They enriched us!  All 44 hours until we could get them the hell outta here!   

Furthermore, your decade comment:  I presume you mean the parents, because if you mean the kids, well, they were just born 10 years ago, and your comment would be even more inane.  But let's go with it:  Leftie parents are more emotionally driven, and they really hate Trump.  So you wouldn't let your kids play with a kid from a family that supports Trump?

Time and again, we on the Right accuse you of grouping all supporters of Trump into being racist misogynistic transphobic phobophobes, and you all say no no, we're not like that.  Yet here we are, witnessing exactly that.

It's been said before, and I'll repeat it.  Righties hate Leftie policies; Lefties hate Righties.

Own it.   

Sad.

Our little jer beat, victim to that fake pro Putin right wing garbage  

But then he never was very smart, was he?

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

18 hours ago, jerryskids said:

They probably expected the Lefties to be more tolerant.  Because that's what we've been programmed to believe.

I appreciate your whataboutism, but in the context of this thread, which is parents teaching their children intolerance for the other side, it's pretty clear that one side is more tolerant.  

So you found one link that proves one way and it becomes the absolute?

Whatever

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you found one link that proves one way and it becomes the absolute?

Whatever

I don’t think a thread about teaching kids is the place for you. 

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11 hours ago, edjr said:

my 11 year old son hates trump, because you know public skewl is a liberal cesspool. 

anyway, when anyone says this(not just my son), I always ask “why” give me one reason. s

 

Watching the video and reading the study, it seems like most of the ideas particularly for the “Democrat” kids were coming from the parents.  For example for the questions about would they be willing to go and would their parents allow them to go to someone’s house whose family supported the other candidates, the “Democrats” answers were pretty consistent between them vs their parents.   

I’ll give the “Republican” kids some credit though for thinking for themselves, particularly the ones interviewed when Biden was the candidate.  27% said their family wouldn’t allow them to visit a Biden supporter’s house, but only 4% said they wouldn’t be willing to go themselves.

 

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42 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Watching the video and reading the study, it seems like most of the ideas particularly for the “Democrat” kids were coming from the parents.  For example for the questions about would they be willing to go and would their parents allow them to go to someone’s house whose family supported the other candidates, the “Democrats” answers were pretty consistent between them vs their parents.   

I’ll give the “Republican” kids some credit though for thinking for themselves, particularly the ones interviewed when Biden was the candidate.  27% said their family wouldn’t allow them to visit a Biden supporter’s house, but only 4% said they wouldn’t be willing to go themselves.

 

Thanks for a fine example of where the grooming & brainwashing is actually seated

[TimHauck 2,485]

1 minute ago, Nomad99 said:

Thanks for a fine example of where the grooming & brainwashing is actually seated

Yeah, both parties.  

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10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, both parties.  

I think that's just your coping mechanism.  It's clear where the intolerance is coming from.

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I think that's just your coping mechanism.  It's clear where the intolerance is coming from.

Well the “Democrat” kids seem more willing to be brainwashed based on this sample, but parents from both sides were trying.

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well the “Democrat” kids seem more willing to be brainwashed based on this sample, but parents from both sides were trying.

So when it's a lib imbalance to the negative.....it's equal. When it's a conservative imbalance to the negative....MAGA. 

Got it....

[TimHauck 2,485]

1 minute ago, Nomad99 said:

So when it's a lib imbalance to the negative.....it's equal. When it's a conservative imbalance to the negative....MAGA. 

Got it....

Huh?  When Biden was in the race, a similar number of children with parents of either party reported that their parents would not allow them to visit a friend’s house who supported the opposing candidate.

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21 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s funny this issue just came up. My 11 year old daughter  belongs to a local young people’s theatre group.  The play this season is the 25th annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. She was given the character of Swartzy, the politically driven character with two gay fathers.  She has lots of lines that don’t warm my heart. The show must go on.  

 Then you get to be painted as the bad guy who's over-reacting when you pull your kid out of the theater group. Meanwhile, it's the director who chose this controversial trash to be performed in the first place whose responsible.

This situation sucks and you shouldn't be forced to be in it.

[Maximum Overkill 1,430]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you found one link that proves one way and it becomes the absolute?

Whatever

A Liberal School Teacher who pushes his extreme far left Woke ideology onto impressionable Kids  

 

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10 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

A Liberal School Teacher who pushes his extreme far left Woke ideology onto impressionable Kids  

 

Never hire a liberal babysitter. They are sick. 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

Never hire a liberal babysitter. They are sick. 

Hell no!!! I used to hire the neighbor who came from a nice NORMAL Conservative home. 

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9 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Sad.

Our little jer beat, victim to that fake pro Putin right wing garbage  

But then he never was very smart, was he?

Pro Putin wut?   

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t think a thread about teaching kids is the place for you. 

Oh a teaching dig on here....must be a day that ends in "y".

Same old tired BS from you

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2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

 Then you get to be painted as the bad guy who's over-reacting when you pull your kid out of the theater group. Meanwhile, it's the director who chose this controversial trash to be performed in the first place whose responsible.

This situation sucks and you shouldn't be forced to be in it.

The difference is this isn’t school. It’s a private group that I pay for and the choice is up to me and my wife. We feel she’s mature enough to handle it.  She’s 11, not 7, and nothing sexual is discussed. Gay people exist. We don’t hate them.  The flag football teAm I coach has a player with two moms. It’s reality.  

[edjr 6,336]

my sons best friend’s mom was at BLM protests holding signs back during covid.  Was on facebook, someone showed me.  I say, so what? Been around her hundreds of times, never once spoke politics. My son sleeps over there and their son sleeps here. 

You people that let politics control your lives have a bigger mental disorder than trans freaks 

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Just now, edjr said:

my sons best friend’s mom was at BLM protests holding signs back during covid.  Was on facebook, someone showed me.  I say, so what? Been around her hundreds of times, never once spoke politics. My son sleeps over there and their son sleeps here. 

You people that let politics control your lives have a bigger mental disorder than trans

Who let's politics control their lives other than politicians and people who go to BLM protests? 

You are warped. Damaged. 

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6 minutes ago, edjr said:

my sons best friend’s mom was at BLM protests holding signs back during covid.  Was on facebook, someone showed me.  I say, so what? Been around her hundreds of times, never once spoke politics. My son sleeps over there and their son sleeps here. 

You people that let politics control your lives have a bigger mental disorder than trans freaks 

Who goes to protests? Is she black?

Id keep an eye on that one. 

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4 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Who goes to protests? Is she black?

Id keep an eye on that one. 

she has a son from a previous relationship who is. who cares what people do with their own time during? during covid there wasn’t a lot going on

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6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Pro Putin wut?   

Had an Oktoberfest celebration yesterday

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19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Had an Oktoberfest celebration yesterday

 

[seafoam1 2,569]

21 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Had an Oktoberfest celebration yesterday

Does anyone care? 

[jerryskids 6,198]

21 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Had an Oktoberfest celebration yesterday

Also, I've never said anything pro Putin, unless it was in the context of his respect for Trump vs. Biden or Harris (which isn't really a compliment).  In fact, I've barely commented on this conflict at all.  I certainly support Ukraine's efforts to defend itself, but I'm less clear on us expending resources to help a non-NATO country, unless it is primarily for strategic reasons.  And in that case, I'm not clear on why our strategy (it seems everywhere) is to provide just enough support to keep the conflict going on indefinitely.

History has shown that the best way to end a war is to win the war.  Decisively.  WWI was wishy washy and led to WWII.  WWII ended more decisively, and we had peace in Europe until recently.

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20 hours ago, edjr said:

she has a son from a previous relationship who is. who cares what people do with their own time during? during covid there wasn’t a lot going on

My oldest daughter's best friend is from a Trump family. My daughter said something to me about it once. I said, "People are allowed to support and vote for whomever they want."

That was the end of the conversation.