Will Ferrell: ‘If the Trans Community Is a Threat to You, Then It Stems From Not Being Confident or Safe With Yourself’

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Just now, supermike80 said:

See?  You're doing it again.  Why am I a phobe?  Why can't I just disagree?  I'm not calling them bad people, at all.  I don't agree with it.  Yet you on the left, have to name call anytime someone doesn't agree with your position.  And that's why people don't like you.

You are saying they are mentally ill, like folks did in the 50s and 60s about gay men and lesbians, which was and is homophobia.

It is rich you are complaining about name calling from the left. Have you ever once complained about all the names Tim and I have been called in this forum by those who disagree with our point of view? If you have I don't remember it.

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4 minutes ago, squistion said:

You are saying they are mentally ill, like folks did in the 50s and 60s about gay men and lesbians, which was and is homophobia.

It is rich you are complaining about name calling from the left. Have you ever once complained about all the names Tim and I have been called in this forum by those who disagree with our point of view? If you have I don't remember it.

It isn't homophobia.  At all. I am not scared of homosexuals, I could have beer with a gay man, straight man, trans man...Wouldn't care at all.  That's not a phobia.   So you're wrong.

The difference between the 50s and 60s which you love to bring up so much, is people wanted to "do something" about gays then.  I don't.   Let them live their lives.  If they are happy, then kudos to them.   

And no I don't complain about the names you are being called.  because they are directed at you specifically....and in many cases you deserve it.  You are generalizing an entire group, and that's what the left does.   Remember, Tim said in 2016 AND 2020 if you vote for Trump you are racist.  Everyone. Period.   It's not the same when i call you directly a liar.  Because you lie----and I showed it.

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32 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I have a woman that works with me (38C--Pretty nice), 18 year old daughter (maybe 36B? I don't look too much)that dated a girl for a couple years and decided she was gay.  Guess what?  They broke up and she's dating a guy now.

Got a Gen Z clerk that works for me (36C  quite lovely) with a 22 yr old sister(no idea..never met her).   Also "gay" They broke up and guess what? She's dating a guy now.   

So there's that

They might be "bi" or "pan" sexual

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

They might be "bi" or "pan" sexual

Yup.  It used to be simple didn't it?

Straight, Gay, Bi.   You don't need more.

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Anal sex is gross.   But whatever. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Anal sex is gross.   But whatever. 

Analphobe!

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2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Yup.  It used to be simple didn't it?

Straight, Gay, Bi.   You don't need more.

I don't get it either....I just shrug my shoulders and move on. 

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2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It isn't homophobia.  At all. I am not scared of homosexuals, I could have beer with a gay man, straight man, trans man...Wouldn't care at all.  That's not a phobia.   So you're wrong.

The difference between the 50s and 60s which you love to bring up so much, is people wanted to "do something" about gays then.  I don't.   Let them live their lives.  If they are happy, then kudos to them.   

And no I don't complain about the names you are being called.  because they are directed at you specifically....and in many cases you deserve it.  You are generalizing an entire group, and that's what the left does.   Remember, Tim said in 2016 AND 2020 if you vote for Trump you are racist.  Everyone. Period.   It's not the same when i call you directly a liar.  Because you lie----and I showed it.

I've been called some really vile things in this forum including accusations of child molestation the bestiality, which is why I have so many of the usual suspects on ignore. And you think I deserve that? SMH.

And I didn't lie. What I said was mischaracterized.

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Just now, squistion said:

I've been called some really vile things in this forum including accusations of child molestation the bestiality, which is why I have so many of the usual suspects on ignore. And you think I deserve that? SMH.

And I didn't lie. What I said was mischaracterized.

Yeah, you lied.  100% lied.  You tried to spin it, but it was just a lie.  

As far as the names, I mean I would think the best thing to do is leave.   Why would you want to subject yourself to that abuse?

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7 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Yeah, you lied.  100% lied.  You tried to spin it, but it was just a lie.  

As far as the names, I mean I would think the best thing to do is leave.   Why would you want to subject yourself to that abuse?

I don't subject myself to it, that's why I put them on ignore.   

I don't see it unless someone quotes them (who aren't on ignore themselves, of course).

And I figured right, that the vile name calling is acceptable to you since your solution is for me to leave.

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

I don't subject myself to it, that's why I put them on ignore.   

I don't see it unless someone quotes them (who aren't on ignore themselves, of course).

And I figured right, that the vile name calling is acceptable to you since your solution is for me to leave.

You are the one crying about it.  If it upsets you, I don't understand why you don't just leave?

Got news for ya buddy...The entire board can call me every terrible name in the book, and I wouldn't care.  Its an internet site loaded with people I don't know.  It wouldn't bother me.   I know you are easily upset by these things(and that's OK..we are all different) but if it is so upsetting to you, why stay?   Makes no sense.   

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43 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ok well slow down.  Just like there are a holes in every single demographic that exists, I can 100% guarantee that there are gay and trans a holes as well.  

Whether kids being transitioned is overblown or not isn't the point.  My point is I am against it.  Whether it's one time or a million times.  

Agreed.   I don't know anyone "pro kids transitioning"   If it's a one in a 100 million kids thing that happens, you can't blanket all Liberal people as supporting it.  Those are just horrible parents who should have been aborted.

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Just now, purdygood said:

Agreed.   I don't know anyone "pro kids transitioning"   If it's a one in a 100 million kids thing that happens, you can't blanket all Liberal people as supporting it.

if all liberals can call me a transphobe for being against it I sure can.

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10 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

You are the one crying about it.  If it upsets you, I don't understand why you don't just leave?

Got news for ya buddy...The entire board can call me every terrible name in the book, and I wouldn't care.  Its an internet site loaded with people I don't know.  It wouldn't bother me.   I know you are easily upset by these things(and that's OK..we are all different) but if it is so upsetting to you, why stay?   Makes no sense.   

It is not upsetting when I don't see it. And I don't see 95% of it any more thanks to the ignore button.

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Just now, supermike80 said:

if all liberals can call me a transphobe for being against it I sure can.

I'm against it too.  And people around here call me a Liberal all the time.  I am not

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14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

if all liberals can call me a transphobe for being against it I sure can.

You are not a transphobe. I don't think most people, of any political persuasion, are. Most of the negativity is just a lack of understanding of what those people are going through, but "knowing" that they are "weird."

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1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

I watched as a beautiful young woman went to the U of M because of suicidal thoughts. When she came out she claimed to be a boy and she was ALWAYS a boy. Now she will only go by a boys name that she chose. At no point was this child ever a boy, ever acted like a boy, ever looked like a boy. Yet somehow. Going to see a shrink at the U convinced her that she was in fact a boy. She pretended to be a boy for a year or so, THEN she got put on ozempic, lost a ton of weight and suddenly she was a girl again. What I think happens is that the medical community goes out of it's way to convince kids they are transgender. 

I don’t think the “medical community” in general does but I have no doubt there are some activists within it that let their own beliefs dictate way too much. Same in education I’m sure 

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t think the “medical community” in general does but I have no doubt there are some activists within it that let their own beliefs dictate way too much. Same in education I’m sure 

Exactly this. I'm sure it happens, but the "medical community" is not in cahoots trying to change everyone's gender.

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t think the “medical community” in general does but I have no doubt there are some activists within it that let their own beliefs dictate way too much. Same in education I’m sure 

If you had a daughter that insisted she needed to puke after meals to feel normal,  would you encourage her to keep puking or would you get her help for a mental illness. The medical community encourages trans kids to change their gender instead of treating them for a clear mental illness. It would be like a doctor saying...oh if puking your guts out makes you feel better go for it. 

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23 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

If you had a daughter that insisted she needed to puke after meals to feel norma, l would you encourage her to keep puking or would you get her help for a mental illness. The medical community encourages trans kids to change their gender instead of treating them for a clear mental illness. It would be like a doctor saying...oh if puking your guts out makes you feel better go for it. 

What we have today is because the activists at WPATH were allowed to infiltrate academia.  It’s been a snowball effect since then. Doctors are basing treatment on ideas from a trans think tank. 

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30 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

If you had a daughter that insisted she needed to puke after meals to feel norma, l would you encourage her to keep puking or would you get her help for a mental illness. The medical community encourages trans kids to change their gender instead of treating them for a clear mental illness. It would be like a doctor saying...oh if puking your guts out makes you feel better go for it. 

The whole medical community, huh? Can you verify this? Let's say I'm skeptical. Got some links?

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On 9/30/2024 at 11:33 AM, IGotWorms said:

Have you ever known an actual trans person? I was friends with a couple girls growing up, they were basically guys and it surprised absolutely no one when they both ended up being lesbians (not together) and then one of them became a dude. You could tell when we were ten years old for Christ’s sake, that’s just the way they were. And I’m not talking tomboys, this was different, they essentially were guys trapped in girls’ bodies.

Now this crap where it’s being suggested to every kid that hey maybe you’re not a boy, or maybe you’re asexual or pansexual or sapiosexual or whatever all this crap is now, that isn’t helpful. But yes there are some actual trans people out there and that’s just the way they were made

Not surprised that hanging around you turned two biological women into flaming trannies. 

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2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Yeah, you lied.  100% lied.  You tried to spin it, but it was just a lie.  

As far as the names, I mean I would think the best thing to do is leave.   Why would you want to subject yourself to that abuse?

News Flash: Guy who calls other "phobes" and "ists" for simply not agreeing with him is upset he's being called "vile" names.  

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3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Are they actually a threat to you though?  Maybe a threat to our culture in general.

Not to my life. But I care about some things that don't impact my life all that much in this stage of my life. 

Culture is a good example.

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1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

If you had a daughter that insisted she needed to puke after meals to feel normal,  would you encourage her to keep puking or would you get her help for a mental illness. The medical community encourages trans kids to change their gender instead of treating them for a clear mental illness. It would be like a doctor saying...oh if puking your guts out makes you feel better go for it. 

I don’t agree that being actually transgender is a mental illness. Whatever else I might think about it, I don’t think that is correct

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16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t agree that being actually transgender is a mental illness. Whatever else I might think about it, I don’t think that is correct

I just do not see how you can see it as anything other than a mental illness. They are saying that they FEEL like they are a gender other than what their body presents as. That is in their head. It ABSOLUELY IS a mental illness and liberal doctors have convinced the world that it is something else. 

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9 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I just do not see how you can see it as anything other than a mental illness. They are saying that they FEEL like they are a gender other than what their body presents as. That is in their head. It ABSOLUELY IS a mental illness and liberal doctors have convinced the world that it is something else. 

Denying it is a mental illness literally flies in the face of what we mean by "mental illness".  If being a tranny ISN'T a mental illness, then nothing is a mental illness.

It's preposterous on it's face to deny it.  This is the same crowd that tells you to "believe the science" when it comes to climate change, but then does a complete 180 and says "don't believe the science" when it comes to trannies and still call YOU the science denier.

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10 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I just do not see how you can see it as anything other than a mental illness. They are saying that they FEEL like they are a gender other than what their body presents as. That is in their head. It ABSOLUELY IS a mental illness and liberal doctors have convinced the world that it is something else. 

See, now you're doing the same thing. You FEEL like it's a mental illness, but the professionals disagree: 

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

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Just now, Fnord said:

See, now you're doing the same thing. You FEEL like it's a mental illness, but the professionals disagree: 

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

the "professionals" disagreeing is a LARGE part of the problem. 

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Just now, kilroy69 said:

the "professionals" disagreeing is a LARGE part of the problem. 

How do you determine what is problematic and what is not when the problem being presented is well beyond your expertise? My thought is that you listen to those that are experts in that area. They know more than we do about the topic. I'm okay deferring to them, many obviously are not.

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3 hours ago, Fnord said:

How do you determine what is problematic and what is not when the problem being presented is well beyond your expertise? My thought is that you listen to those that are experts in that area. They know more than we do about the topic. I'm okay deferring to them, many obviously are not.

 What an.idiot you are. 

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3 hours ago, Fnord said:

See, now you're doing the same thing. You FEEL like it's a mental illness, but the professionals disagree: 

Of course it's a mental illness. There's something in their brain that's wired differently from NORMAL people. 

If you have a Dik and think you're a Woman, you're mentally ill. 

And you also think the Border is sealed, the unvaccinated are murderers and the World is going to end when Trump gets elected. That's also mental illness. 

 

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4 hours ago, Fnord said:

See, now you're doing the same thing. You FEEL like it's a mental illness, but the professionals disagree: 

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

You do know that gender dysphoria and non conformity are different, right?

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What if "you" are not threatened, but consider the allowance for gender dysphoric men to be legitimized a threat to your daughters?

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53 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What if "you" are not threatened, but consider the allowance for gender dysphoric men to be legitimized a threat to your daughters?

Wouldn’t gender dysphoric men be men who think they’re women? How would that threaten your daughters more than non gender dsyohoric men?

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2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

 

What boy wears pigtails. Has to be a girl

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

Wouldn’t gender dysphoric men be men who think they’re women? How would that threaten your daughters more than non gender dsyohoric men?

When men pretend to be women, and invade their space, they threaten women in a variety of ways.  There is a reason for separate in areas such as sport, by way of example.  A man who wants to play dress up and pretend to be a woman should be treated with dignity of course.   We should be as kind to them as we would to someone with Downs Syndrome.

So placate them if you want, play along wit their charade.....but when it comes to allowing them into spaces reserved for real women, no.....we should not do that....that is a threat to women.

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22 minutes ago, RLLD said:

When men pretend to be women, and invade their space, they threaten women in a variety of ways.  There is a reason for separate in areas such as sport, by way of example.  A man who wants to play dress up and pretend to be a woman should be treated with dignity of course.   We should be as kind to them as we would to someone with Downs Syndrome.

So placate them if you want, play along wit their charade.....but when it comes to allowing them into spaces reserved for real women, no.....we should not do that....that is a threat to women.

I think your daughters have way more to fear from straight regular dudes than from trans women, and I’m sure the statistics would bear that out.

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

I think your daughters have way more to fear from straight regular dudes than from trans women, and I’m sure the statistics would bear that out.

So then, your position is that if something is statistically small......that we should not worry about it?   I might be able to get behind that position, if you are then also willing to apply that logic elsewhere......are you?