Helene Disaster Response: The Regime leaving Red States to die?

[TrailGuy 207]

This whole argument about we can't provide disaster relief because we spent money on illegals is pure nonsense.  First we have provided disaster relief, that's your first lie.  What Mayorkas said was we have another hurricane coming and need more money.  That's the way the govt works.  Second we spend lots of money on lots of things, but the right wing will single out spending on illegals because they have been trained to spread hatred of illegals.

Everything Trump pushes is hatred of illegals.   This is no different.

Everything is an excuse to blame something you don't support.  We saw this Ukraine as well.

Facts not feels.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Also lacking Maddow's journalistic bona fides. Just sayin.

Her awards for her outstanding work on the Russia hoax? Or was it Trumps taxes? Or the times she’s cried? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

Just now, TrailGuy said:

This whole argument about we can't provide disaster relief because we spent money on illegals is pure nonsense.  First we have provided disaster relief, that's your first lie.  What Mayorkas said was we have another hurricane coming and need more money.  That's the way the govt works.  Second we spend lots of money on lots of things, but the right wing will single out spending on illegals because they have been trained to spread hatred of illegals.

Everything Trump pushes is hatred of illegals.   This is no different.

Everything is an excuse to blame something you don't support.  We saw this Ukraine as well.

Facts not feels.

Spending money on people here illegally is the right thing to do. We should do more of it, perhaps invite a few more million in.  Jackass. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,453]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Her awards for her outstanding work on the Russia hoax? Or was it Trumps taxes? Or the times she’s cried? 

Her?  Are you misgendering?

[jonnyutah 223]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

This whole argument about we can't provide disaster relief because we spent money on illegals is pure nonsense.  First we have provided disaster relief, that's your first lie.  What Mayorkas said was we have another hurricane coming and need more money.  That's the way the govt works.  Second we spend lots of money on lots of things, but the right wing will single out spending on illegals because they have been trained to spread hatred of illegals.

Everything Trump pushes is hatred of illegals.   This is no different.

Everything is an excuse to blame something you don't support.  We saw this Ukraine as well.

Facts not feels.

When you wrap almost everything into an omnibus spending bill this kind of criticism is perfectly valid. 

This whole thats a different pot nonsense is not a valid excuse. 

 

[TrailGuy 207]

1 minute ago, jonnyutah said:

When you wrap almost everything into an omnibus spending bill this kind of criticism is perfectly valid. 

This whole thats a different pot nonsense is not a valid excuse. 

 

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

[seafoam1 2,569]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

When you get to high school and learn what the national debt means, you should pay attention. Unless you're an inner city hood rat that is.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

Does the word illegal have any meaning to you? Those other things can be cut for sure.  But spending on illegals besides deporting them and keeping them out should be nothing. Because they are here illegally.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

I like how liberals like this guy think that subsidizing migrants / illegals with food, shelter and medical isn’t corporate welfare.  

[Fnord 1,685]

15 hours ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 Please. You don’t know what you’re talking about. The insurance companies constantly trying to put responsibility on the other. Insurance companies are responsible for wind an hail damages. Roof gets blown off and water leaks from the roof and causes damage, they are responsible for that. FEMA handles the flood damage. If water rises from the ground up, and floods a dwelling, that’s their responsibility for the flood damage. They both suck. Unrealistic? Let me know when you go through these nightmares and get back to me. 

Yes. Expectations of those affected are frequently unrealistic, at least regarding what FEMA is capable of. You must have missed where I said I had some experience with this. I didn't say anything about insurance companies; that's a whole separate boondoggle that I definitely have opinions about. Probably similar to yours.

 

[Fnord 1,685]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I like how liberals like this guy think that subsidizing migrants / illegals with food, shelter and medical isn’t corporate welfare.  

If one does not like corporate welfare, one might want to rethink voting for Trump. Of course, one would need to be capable of some sort of internal reflection to reach that conclusion, which you are obviously not.

Just keep watching Tucker, he will validate all of your feelings for you.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

18 minutes ago, Fnord said:

If one does not like corporate welfare, one might want to rethink voting for Trump. Of course, one would need to be capable of some sort of internal reflection to reach that conclusion, which you are obviously not.

Just keep watching Tucker, he will validate all of your feelings for you.

Trump! Get a new tune man.  This one is played. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

You think this administration spends more on illegals than citizens?

 No. I also don’t think they spend more on crackpipes for drug addicts but they did that too. 

[League Champion 1,790]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

Everything Trump pushes is hatred of illegals. 

Because they're Illegal?  

[Horseman 2,005]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

Because it's a perfectly valid question to ask what we've wasted money on when the Secretary of Homeland Security announces that we need more money for disaster relief.  Spending money on illegals is a waste and frankly completely avoidable.  Putting a priority on illegals over citizens is a direct comparison illustrating the ineptitude of this administration.  

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What part is that? The different pools of money part? You’re a clown, echoing every left wing bullshitt excuse tossed out there.  It’s all taxpayer money goofball. As Joe Biden once said, show me your budget and you’ll show me your priorities.  The priority of this administration is obviously illegals over citizens. But you keep being a good little toadie. Suits you well, Mr “moderate” 

It is all taxpayer money but some goes to one thing and some to another. This isn't that hard.

The priority is not illegals overcitizens. that's you spouting your sheep nonsense. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,214]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

It is all taxpayer money but some goes to one thing and some to another. This isn't that hard.

The priority is not illegals overcitizens. that's you spouting your sheep nonsense. 

Over some citizens. But you don’t gaf about them. 

[Horseman 2,005]

Anyone that doesn't think illegals have been a priority for this administration has been asleep the last 4 years, or lying.  

[Horseman 2,005]

 

 

[League Champion 1,790]

Why is Kamala giving money to Lebanon? 

[Horseman 2,005]

 

 

[Alias Detective 1,319]

2 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

But why spending on illegals?  Why not spending on defense?  Or corporate welfare?  Or aid to Israel?  Or any other spending that you approve of?  If money is money and spending is spending all from one bucket, then don't you see you're cherry picking?

Because we don't want criminals/illegal individuals taking from us? Not that hard a concept twinkletoes.

[League Champion 1,790]

Biden is speaking on the new storm, he just forgot everyone's names!! 

[Horseman 2,005]

 

 

[jonmx 2,214]

4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

So money that is directly positioned for a specific program is used for that program? It is illegal to use emergency funds on anything other than what it is allocated from.

Two separate pools of money. 

HTH

Where do you think those funding request come from?   As i explained it.   Biden minions in FEMA asked for more money for housing for illegals than for disaster victims.   They appeared to follow the law but their priorities stink. 

[Drizzay 678]

 

[Fnord 1,685]

43 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

 

THEY must be based in the upper midwest. Weather here has been spectacular!

[seafoam1 2,569]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

Biden is speaking on the new storm, he just forgot everyone's names!! 

He's ready for the looney bin. Along with the kameltoe. 

[squistion 1,679]

 

 

[RLLD 3,928]

4 hours ago, League Champion said:

Why is Kamala giving money to Lebanon? 

I think this is a distraction.

First and foremost, I remember when people tried to pretend that Bush was purposely not heling people during Katrina.....that was a focking lie, and suggesting that the current admin is not helping is also a focking lie..... we need to stop the lying.

Now, if you have a bone to pick.....it will be with the level of ineptitude the pervades ALL government agencies.  Not just FEMA.....all of them,,,,,

[nobody 2,471]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

 

 

Why is Biden communicating on such an important topic via X?

That's rhetorical.  I know why.

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Over some citizens. But you don’t gaf about them. 

BAAAAAA!

[seafoam1 2,569]

15 hours ago, RLLD said:

I think this is a distraction.

First and foremost, I remember when people tried to pretend that Bush was purposely not heling people during Katrina.....that was a focking lie, and suggesting that the current admin is not helping is also a focking lie..... we need to stop the lying.

Now, if you have a bone to pick.....it will be with the level of ineptitude the pervades ALL government agencies.  Not just FEMA.....all of them,,,,,

biden went onto the weather channel yesterday  to whine about Trump. Is that just a clever distraction too?

[RLLD 3,928]

14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

biden went onto the weather channel yesterday  to whine about Trump. Is that just a clever distraction too?

The two are mutually exclusive.

Desantis has no issue with the level of support from the WH, he and Biden are talking.  If you have an issue with the response, look no further than the agency itself.

Biden whining about Trump is pure politicking and they all do it. Of course they are each going to leverage what ever political advantages arise from a situation, but this where "we" and "us" should note that is what they are doing, and NOT join in....leaving the lying to the politicians....

[seafoam1 2,569]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The two are mutually exclusive.

Desantis has no issue with the level of support from the WH, he and Biden are talking.  If you have an issue with the response, look no further than the agency itself.

Biden whining about Trump is pure politicking and they all do it. Of course they are each going to leverage what ever political advantages arise from a situation, but this where "we" and "us" should note that is what they are doing, and NOT join in....leaving the lying to the politicians....

Yeah it's natural in politics to a degree. Sometimes it's just the wrong time and topic and the scrutiny is valid. 

[RLLD 3,928]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Yeah it's natural in politics to a degree. Sometimes it's just the wrong time and topic and the scrutiny is valid. 

Agree completely.    I love that DeSantis has called out the focking liar and POS that Harris actually is.

As usual, DenSantis is handling the situation well.... as he has done in the past.  One would think that Democrats would have learned after their failed attempt to take him down the last time.....but oh no, not Harris....

It was profoundly STUPID to try this with Desantis who is Harris's superior in every possible way.   She comes across looking exactly how those not ideologically bound know her to be

[TimHauck 2,483]

On 10/9/2024 at 9:27 AM, TimHauck said:

@Horseman and @F1erce think military helicopters are deliberately sabotaging supply relief areas, lololololol

Lolololol

[seafoam1 2,569]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agree completely.    I love that DeSantis has called out the focking liar and POS that Harris actually is.

As usual, DenSantis is handling the situation well.... as he has done in the past.  One would think that Democrats would have learned after their failed attempt to take him down the last time.....but oh no, not Harris....

It was profoundly STUPID to try this with Desantis who is Harris's superior in every possible way.   She comes across looking exactly how those not ideologically bound know her to be

It's unreal to me that Harris is actually a front runner to be president. I hate Obama for his identity politics disaster of a administration but I can see what led up to the American people being duped into voting for the guy. As bad as that turned out, I will never understand this Harris garbage support. I used to joke about TDS at the beginning but I've learned since that's it's real. Very real. 

Every state should have a DeSantis. This country would soar.

[TimHauck 2,483]

21 hours ago, Horseman said:

 

 

The misinformation is Doocy saying “there’s not enough money for the people of North Carolina.”

The “FEMA doesn’t have enough money to last through hurricane season” line doesn’t mean they’re out of money now.  And of course it doesn’t mean they won’t get more funding before they run out.

HTH

Over $60 million has been paid so far from FEMA to people of NC: https://governor.nc.gov/news/press-releases/2024/10/09/unprecedented-response-hurricane-helene-continues-state-local-and-federal-resources-work-help-those

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,453]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The misinformation is Doocy saying “there’s not enough money for the people of North Carolina.”

The “FEMA doesn’t have enough money to last through hurricane season” line doesn’t mean they’re out of money now.  And of course it doesn’t mean they won’t get more funding before they run out.

HTH

Over $60 million has been paid so far from FEMA to people of NC: https://governor.nc.gov/news/press-releases/2024/10/09/unprecedented-response-hurricane-helene-continues-state-local-and-federal-resources-work-help-those

 

Fun Fact:

Population of Lebanon:  5.5 million

Population of North Carolina:  10.7 million