VP Debate: Vance vs Walz

[Jeff Probst 59]

17 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Wut?  I'm a idiot?  I got COVID?  Can you translate this to English?

You don't remember telling me yesterday that on your dumbest day with COVID you're smarter than I've ever been?

Surely someone as smart as you would remember that.  Surely you would be smart enough to get the reference right?

Or did you just accidentally show that you're dumber than me?

[jerryskids 6,198]

33 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

You don't remember telling me yesterday that on your dumbest day with COVID you're smarter than I've ever been?

Surely someone as smart as you would remember that.  Surely you would be smart enough to get the reference right?

Or did you just accidentally show that you're dumber than me?

Sure, I remember it. Doesn't make your post less stupid. Be better Meph.

 

[Horseman 2,004]

1 hour ago, Jeff Probst said:

Name a state that had no ballot verification or shut the fock up already.

Tiny is always easily triggered.

You want to go alphabetical?

Alaska.  Alaska didn't have signature verification, they required a witness signature instead for verification. That requirement was lifted for 2020,  because you know Covid.   

 

[Strike 4,835]

2 hours ago, OldMaid said:

I’m fairly positive that there would have been all sorts of lawsuits surrounding this. I’m sure if I felt like going down the rabbit hole, I could probably find some. I do however remember there being all kinds of challenges to the new election rules put in place for covid. They litigated everything they possibly could before and after the election and if I remember correctly-they only won one. That should tell you everything you need to know.

 

Just because you keep repeating this lie, that doesn't make it true.  It does make you look uninformed though so you got that going for you.

[lickin_starfish 1,801]

 

[Jeff Probst 59]

6 hours ago, Horseman said:

Tiny is always easily triggered.

You want to go alphabetical?

Alaska.  Alaska didn't have signature verification, they required a witness signature instead for verification. That requirement was lifted for 2020,  because you know Covid.   

 

According to the Alaska voting guidelines for 2020 in order to get an absentee ballot you need to provide is showing date of birth and have a registered address.

https://www.elections.alaska.gov/election/2020/General/OEPBooks/2020 AK Region I pamphlet_FINAL-web.pdf

Trump won Alaska so none of this matters anyway.

Next state?

[Jeff Probst 59]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

Just because you keep repeating this lie, that doesn't make it true.  It does make you look uninformed though so you got that going for you.

Do you have any evidence of election fraud you want to share?  If so trump could have used you because his lawyers clearly didn't and they're all disbarred, indicted or convicted now.

[Jeff Probst 59]

7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Sure, I remember it. Doesn't make your post less stupid. Be better Meph.

 

Alright you got me.  This is what it sounds like when doves cry.

[Maximum Overkill 1,428]

39 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

Do you have any evidence of election fraud you want to share?  If so trump could have used you because his lawyers clearly didn't and they're all disbarred, indicted or convicted now.

Would you consider disinformation election fraud? Or ballot stuffing? Both proven to be true. 

[Jeff Probst 59]

4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Would you consider disinformation election fraud? Or ballot stuffing? Both proven to be true. 

Horsesh1t made the claim that the absentee ballots were not verified in most states which lead to fraud.  Let's stick with that.  Show me the proof that it happened.

[avoiding injuries 1,367]

Can we get this thread back on track and focus on Vance wiping the floor with Walz and Walz being friends with school shooters. 
 

Take the J6 talk to the J6 thread. 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

Also, PA violated their election laws by accepting undated and late ballots.  For SCOTUS, primarily Roberts, IMO that was probably best, because had those votes gotten thrown out, mayhem may have ensued.  It's unfortunate that the Chief Justice felt the need to make a decision based on politics vs. law, but it's happened before.

 

In 2020- they factored that essentially this should be a one time thing based on the COVID situation. A lot of it came to a head in the 2022 race for the GOP nomination for Senate. Dave McCormick wanted the ballots counted, Oz did not. 

[jonmx 2,214]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Would you consider disinformation election fraud? Or ballot stuffing? Both proven to be true. 

Our intelligence agency killing true stories to aid in the election of Biden is a clear violation of the Hatch Act.   We have massive bureaucracies which have been politicized to protect establishment candidates.   Our government ir rogue. 

[jonmx 2,214]

The moderators cutting off Vance's mic as he was correcting their disinformation was disgusting.   It is one thing to control the debate, but that went off the rails when she inserted herself into the debate and provided a misleading response.  The moderators are not there to make arguments for the losing candidate. 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

Also- yes Trump got a ton of votes in 2020, Biden got a ton and then some. 

There were more votes cast because people were given more freedom to do mail-in voting due to COVID, and there were more people with time to go to the polls because of COVID having lots of people at home yet. It was an unprecedented election in the US and roughly 92% of registered voters voted in that election- which is the highest it has been in a long time, if not ever (I can't find numbers from like way back when but I know historians say the turnout in election was really high in the 1800's (I believe the election of Taft was the highest turnout all time for a while)

Or you can look at numbers through the lens of "Voting Eligible Population"- 67% of that group voted in the 2020 election. The previous high was 2008 at 63%. (They only have numbers back to 1980 election and in order they go- 54, 55, 53, 58, 52, 54, 60, 63, 58, 59, 67).

It should also be noted the 2020 anomaly because in 2022 there were less mail in ballots by percentage of total voters cast.  

[The Real timschochet 5,253]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The moderators cutting off Vance's mic as he was correcting their disinformation was disgusting.   It is one thing to control the debate, but that went off the rails when she inserted herself into the debate and provided a misleading response.  The moderators are not there to make arguments for the losing candidate. 

The only misinformation was coming from Vance. 

[The Real timschochet 5,253]

41 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Can we get this thread back on track and focus on Vance wiping the floor with Walz 

Except that didn’t happen

[zsasz 343]

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The moderators cutting off Vance's mic as he was correcting their disinformation was disgusting.   It is one thing to control the debate, but that went off the rails when she inserted herself into the debate and provided a misleading response.  The moderators are not there to make arguments for the losing candidate. 

They cut off both their mics, Chooch.  Did you even watch the debate?

[Mike Hunt 173]

One thing for sure that came out of this.  If Trump loses Vance will be the next GOP POTUS candidate.

[The Real timschochet 5,253]

2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

One thing for sure that came out of this.  If Trump loses Vance will be the next GOP POTUS candidate.

I doubt it 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

3 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

One thing for sure that came out of this.  If Trump loses Vance will be the next GOP POTUS candidate.

I'd tend to agree with that. From the clips I saw and stuff I read he came off very well in this and improved the image of himself with voters. I mean even if Trump wins it will be Vance as the next candidate.

Also, I'm not sure who is next in line for the GOP. Trump torpedoed a lot of their next tier in this past debate season wiping the floor with Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Vivek, and (haha) Ron DeSantis. It almost has to be Vance. 

[jonmx 2,214]

23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The only misinformation was coming from Vance. 

Oh effing bullsh1t.  She completely lied as she tried to characterized them as legal immigrants when the truth is Kamala had used a loophole for very rare special circimatance cases to blanketly give a temporary legal status to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants.  She is a lowlife lying betch who knew exactly what lies she was spinning. 

[The Real timschochet 5,253]

31 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Oh effing bullsh1t.  She completely lied as she tried to characterized them as legal immigrants when the truth is Kamala had used a loophole for very rare special circimatance cases to blanketly give a temporary legal status to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants.  She is a lowlife lying betch who knew exactly what lies she was spinning. 

The loophole that was enacted in 2020? 
 

And it doesn’t matter. They’re legal. As legal as you are. 

[edjr 6,336]

Why did Walz look like he was hitting the cane with Hunter between questions?  

[Herbivore 1,045]

9 hours ago, Strike said:

Just because you keep repeating this lie, that doesn't make it true.  It does make you look uninformed though so you got that going for you.

seriously @OldMaid they could have lost 62 court cases. 

[Strike 4,835]

59 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

One thing for sure that came out of this.  If Trump loses Vance will be the next GOP POTUS candidate.

What if he wins?  He can only serve one more term.

[Mike Honcho 4,750]

9 hours ago, Strike said:

Just because you keep repeating this lie, that doesn't make it true.  It does make you look uninformed though so you got that going for you.

Yeah, she's repeating the lie.

 

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All the former Trump lawyers now facing legal consequences

Rudy Giuliani: Giuliani, who led Trump’s post-election efforts, was formally disbarred in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, with the District of Columbia Court of Appeals ordering the penalty based on New York disbarring the attorney in July. The former New York City mayor has also been criminally charged in Arizona for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election—where he initially tried to evade being served—after already being charged in Georgia, and he’s also been sued for defamation by voting machine companies Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic. He was ordered to pay $148 million to Georgia election workers whom he defamed, which resulted in Giuliani declaring bankruptcy.

Jenna Ellis: Ellis was charged in Arizona after previously being indicted in Georgia and taking a plea deal in that case, and she took another deal in August that requires her to provide “truthful, honest, candid, and complete” testimonies after being suspended from practicing law for three years as a result of her Georgia guilty plea. She was also previously censured for violating rules that bar attorneys from engaging in “dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation,” with the attorney admitting in court she had made “misrepresentations” while representing Trump after the election that had a “selfish motive.”

Kenneth Chesebro: The attorney, who is described as the architect of the Trump campaign’s “fake electors” scheme—in which GOP officials in battleground states submitted false slates of electors to Congress claiming Trump won—was criminally charged in Wisconsin on one count of forgery, after previously being indicted in Georgia, though he took a plea deal right before his case went to trial.

James Troupis: Troupis was also reportedly charged in Wisconsin in June; another Trump attorney who helped organize the false electors scheme, the lawyer had previously avoided criminal charges in other states and settled a civil lawsuit regarding the electors plot in Wisconsin in March.

John Eastman: Eastman was also charged in Arizona, after already being indicted in Georgia and having 11 charges filed against him by counsel for the California State Bar stemming from his efforts to challenge the election results with Trump. A judge recommended in March that Eastman be disbarred and sanctioned $10,000 for his post-election efforts, which the lawyer intends to appeal.

 

There are more 

[thegeneral 2,520]

25 minutes ago, edjr said:

Why did Walz look like he was hitting the cane with Hunter between questions?  

This is what happens when you don’t watch and only see memes.

[Patented Phil 1,307]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

The moderators cutting off Vance's mic as he was correcting their disinformation was disgusting.   It is one thing to control the debate, but that went off the rails when she inserted herself into the debate and provided a misleading response.  The moderators are not there to make arguments for the losing candidate. 

It’s beyond disgusting.  People are fed up with it too.  https://x.com/megynkelly/status/1841289365256905161?s=46&t=IzbM3-87p2zeOh7T9ScCrQ

[edjr 6,336]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is what happens when you don’t watch and only see memes.

I did watch. 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

It’s beyond disgusting.  People are fed up with it too.  https://x.com/megynkelly/status/1841289365256905161?s=46&t=IzbM3-87p2zeOh7T9ScCrQ

Oh no...Megyn Kelly has spoken out....That'll show 'em

[thegeneral 2,520]

4 minutes ago, edjr said:

I did watch. 

Good. I thought you had said you didn’t.

What is the proper response to “Trump saved the ACA”

[Strike 4,835]

18 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, she's repeating the lie.

 

There are more 

The statement of hers I objected to twice is a lie.  If you all want to keep pretending it's not that's fine but you're wrong.  You all keep posting stuff that is just a smoke screen so either you don't understand my point despite it being obvious or you're purposely being misleading.  Either way you're wrong.

[Patented Phil 1,307]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Oh no...Megyn Kelly has spoken out....That'll show 'em

I don’t expect someone like you to know this, but Megyn Kelly is one of the more reasonable, moderate talking heads out there, and a well-respected debate moderator as well.  For her to react that forcefully is surprising, and noteworthy. 

[Sean Mooney 1,815]

4 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I don’t expect someone like you to know this, but Megyn Kelly is one of the more reasonable, moderate talking heads out there, and a well-respected debate moderator as well.  For her to react that forcefully is surprising, and noteworthy. 

I know who Megyn Kelly is. She is someone who has taken her own level of sh!t for moderation of debates (including Trump and many other conservatives in 2015). She was a moderate voice but has drifted further to the right.

But I am objecting more to your comment that "THe people are pissed...." Megyn Kelly isn't "the people." She is "the establishment"

[edjr 6,336]

27 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Good. I thought you had said you didn’t.

What is the proper response to “Trump saved the ACA”

I went home for lunch yesterday. Put it on and fell asleep on the couch with the dog

[jerryskids 6,198]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

The moderators cutting off Vance's mic as he was correcting their disinformation was disgusting.   It is one thing to control the debate, but that went off the rails when she inserted herself into the debate and provided a misleading response.  The moderators are not there to make arguments for the losing candidate. 

Yep, terrible look for CBS.  But that woman will get high fives at the next Leftie virtue signaling party for shutting off Vance's mic because she didn't have a leg to stand on.   

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

The loophole that was enacted in 2020? 
 

And it doesn’t matter. They’re legal. As legal as you are. 

Ah, but it does matter.  Now when you or somebody else says that certain aliens are here "legally," I'll wonder if they went through the official vetting, security, etc., or did Harris throw some pixie dust on them and call them legal.

Might not matter to you since you want to destroy our country with open borders, but it matters to normal, rational people.   

43 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is what happens when you don’t watch and only see memes.

Well, somebody wasn't watching.  Walz looked like he had his eyes sewn open the entire time.  The entire debate was a meme, I guess.   

[thegeneral 2,520]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

I went home for lunch yesterday. Put it on and fell asleep on the couch with the dog

The funny reactions from Walz were typically to outlandish things from Vance - like Trump saved the ACA or Vance only wants to talk about the future when asked who won the last election

I wouldn’t mind playing poker with Walz.

[BrahmaBulls 627]

13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Probably the most shameful aspect of the whole 2020 thing is the unwillingness of these folks to actually say the election was stolen. It’s always “I’m not saying Trump won, I’m saying there are legitimate questions.” Many of these same people pulled the same exact crap when they questioned Obama’s birth certificate- “I’m not saying he wasn’t born in Hawaii, BUT-“ 

Focking cowards. 

Like Hillary questioning the results or Al Gore suing because he lost?   Focking hypocrite and coward.

[BrahmaBulls 627]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The only misinformation was coming from Vance. 

This is a typical Tampon Tim Schochet lie