patweisers44 737 Posted Thursday at 07:44 PM On 11/19/2024 at 11:41 AM, Hardcore troubadour said: If Billy Wagner gets in first ballot then The Great Mariano Rivera needs his own wing in the HOF. Ozzie Focking Smith was first ballot..so anything is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,005 Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM 6 minutes ago, patweisers44 said: Ozzie Focking Smith was first ballot..so anything is possible. Ozzie Smith wouldn’t be a starter today. Might not even be in the majors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,459 Posted Thursday at 08:03 PM Salvy is not a hall of famer… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted Thursday at 08:28 PM 37 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ozzie Smith wouldn’t be a starter today. Might not even be in the majors. Ozzie was a badass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted Thursday at 08:29 PM 25 minutes ago, posty said: Salvy is not a hall of famer… People didn't think Mike Piazza belonged, either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,005 Posted Thursday at 08:29 PM Just now, cmh6476 said: People didn't think Mike Piazza belonged, either Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted Thursday at 08:35 PM 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Huh? there were plenty who thought his resume wasn't enough to warrant getting in. I'm not asking as much about Salvy in particular, just if the criteria for catchers is more prohibitive than it should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,005 Posted Thursday at 08:40 PM 3 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: there were plenty who thought his resume wasn't enough to warrant getting in. I'm not asking as much about Salvy in particular, just if the criteria for catchers is more prohibitive than it should be. No there weren’t. His numbers are top shelf. Most HR’s ever by a catcher. Stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted Thursday at 08:41 PM 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No there weren’t. His numbers are top shelf. Most HR’s ever by a catcher. Stop. On January 6, 2016, former Los Angeles Dodgers catcher Mike Piazza was elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame, receiving a vote on 83% of the ballots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,459 Posted Thursday at 09:26 PM 55 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: People didn't think Mike Piazza belonged, either Dude, lose the homer blinders…. Piazza was a lock for the hall, Salvy is not even in the same state at the moment… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted Thursday at 10:06 PM 37 minutes ago, posty said: Dude, lose the homer blinders…. Piazza was a lock for the hall, Salvy is not even in the same state at the moment… Salvador Perez is not Mike Piazza. But give him two more decent seasons and he should end up with stats similar to a Gary Carter. I stated the question because of Salvy, but you guys might listen to the question better had I left a Royals player's name out. What are there, 18 catchers in the HOF? Most, the typical common fan wouldn't even recognize the names of. Pudge, Piazza and Mauer are probably the only players most people today can remember playing the game. That feels light, and I was just asking is it because they don't get the recognition they deserve or because there aren't that many catchers deserving of the honor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,183 Posted yesterday at 02:32 AM I think Yadier Molina and Salvador Perez deserve HOF, however, not really the time to talk about them. Salvy is still playing. Molina is not on the ballot. Can't we just focus on 2025 HOF. Billy Wagner Ichiro Suzuki Andruw Jones CC Sabathia Those are my predictions. I'm seeing that those 4 along with Chase Utley and Carlos Beltran are all on a path to get inducted this year, however to me 6 in one year seems unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,005 Posted yesterday at 02:40 AM I’m not putting A Jones in. Another really good not great player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted yesterday at 02:57 AM Ichiro, CC and Wagner might be it. I think Beltran will eventually get in but might take another year or two and wear a Mets cap Just guesses because I have no clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 737 Posted yesterday at 05:12 PM 14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m not putting A Jones in. Another really good not great player. Sadly the HoF is littered with these types. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 737 Posted yesterday at 05:17 PM 14 hours ago, Gepetto said: I think Yadier Molina and Salvador Perez deserve HOF, however, not really the time to talk about them. Salvy is still playing. Molina is not on the ballot. Can't we just focus on 2025 HOF. Billy Wagner Ichiro Suzuki Andruw Jones CC Sabathia Those are my predictions. I'm seeing that those 4 along with Chase Utley and Carlos Beltran are all on a path to get inducted this year, however to me 6 in one year seems unlikely. Chase Utley has no business being in any HoF discussion. He is a white Lou Whitaker minus the Gold Gloves. For the record Whitaker isnt a HoF IMO but i dont consider it the Hall of Pretty Good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,095 Posted yesterday at 05:18 PM I am absolutely shocked that cmh turned a current MLB HOF ballot topic into a discussion of his Royals borderline ballot-space-filler catcher. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,236 Posted yesterday at 05:29 PM 14 hours ago, Gepetto said: CC Sabathia I like CC but he’s not 1st ballot material Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 906 Posted 15 hours ago 9 hours ago, jerryskids said: I am absolutely shocked that cmh turned a current MLB HOF ballot topic into a discussion of his Royals borderline ballot-space-filler catcher. It really was the realization that catchers aren't well represented. I mean if you are a perennial all star (the top at your position year after year) don't you think that should merit consideration? Molina deserves to be in but his will be a drawn out process. And a guy like posada can't even stay on the ballot for a 2nd year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
