Vaccines cause autism

[Frozenbeernuts 1,850]

If not, explain the insane rise in autistic children.

[jerryskids 6,095]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If not, explain the insane rise in autistic children.

A bazillion things have changed in our society in the past several decades.  As a science person, this is an unfounded conclusion on the surface.  The onus is on you to show that they cause autism, and/or to rule out all other possible causes.

I will add that for a long time, my wife (also an engineer) and I have joked that we've always had people on the autism spectrum, they just went into tech fields.  We've worked with a bunch of them.  In other words, it's possible that a good number of the increases in autism are due to a hyper awareness of it, and/or over diagnosis.

[squistion 1,621]

10 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If not, explain the insane rise in autistic children.

From a Google search:

 

Autism rates have increased due to a number of factors, including: 

• Increased awareness

  Public education, media representation, and advocacy have led to greater recognition of autism symptoms and behaviors. This has resulted in more children being identified and receiving support at an earlier age. 

   
• Improved diagnostic capabilities

  Clinicians are better at identifying autism, which requires substantial training in observational techniques. 

   
• Biological factors

  Older parents, particularly older fathers, may increase the risk of autism. Children born prematurely are also at an increased risk, and more premature infants are surviving now than ever before.

   

  Environmental factors

  Air pollution, low birth weight, and stress may also be contributing to the increase in diagnoses. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,252]

12 minutes ago, squistion said:

From a Google search:

 

Autism rates have increased due to a number of factors, including: 

• Increased awareness

  Public education, media representation, and advocacy have led to greater recognition of autism symptoms and behaviors. This has resulted in more children being identified and receiving support at an earlier age. 

   
• Improved diagnostic capabilities

  Clinicians are better at identifying autism, which requires substantial training in observational techniques. 

   
• Biological factors

  Older parents, particularly older fathers, may increase the risk of autism. Children born prematurely are also at an increased risk, and more premature infants are surviving now than ever before.

   

  Environmental factors

  Air pollution, low birth weight, and stress may also be contributing to the increase in diagnoses. 

You forgot vaccines 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

Vaccines do not cause autism. It is most likely a rise because mediciene has a better handle on what autism is and thus it is diagnosed more often- perhaps too much.

Here is an article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789217/

None of the studies done have shown any link between vaccines and autism.

But I guess it shows that man or woman- if a beautiful blonde chick with huge tells you something- people will believe anything

[Hardcore troubadour 14,005]

Mooney likes to make fun of the autistic. Thinks it’s joke worthy.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,252]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Vaccines do not cause autism

Experts say that but have no idea whether it's true or not. So I think it's irresponsible to say that vaccines do or don't add to the odds of Autism. 

Nobody knows, especially you. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mooney likes to make fun of the autistic. Thinks it’s joke worthy.  

Boy you can't just keep my name out of your mouth can you. Again dude- I won't ##### you no matter how hard you try.

And I don't make fun of people who are autistic. I make fun of you because you are autistic AND an azzhole. How long can you go now without bringing me up again? Can you make it to tomorrow?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,005]

[Maximum Overkill 1,252]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

. I make fun of you because you are autistic 

That's nice, especially coming from a school teacher 

[BrahmaBulls 627]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Boy you can't just keep my name out of your mouth can you. Again dude- I won't ##### you no matter how hard you try.

And I don't make fun of people who are autistic. I make fun of you because you are autistic AND an azzhole. How long can you go now without bringing me up again? Can you make it to tomorrow?

To be honest, so are you.  

[MDC 6,658]

Ffs  

[Maximum Overkill 1,252]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Ffs  

Like those Autistic Tranny Crack Whooores in Kensington. The 18 year old ones that look 80. 

So maybe crack causes Autism, we'll never know. 

[thegeneral 2,438]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If not, explain the insane rise in autistic children.

I’ll go exposure to more chemicals and improved diagnosis.

[MDC 6,658]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Like those Autistic Tranny Crack Whooores in Kensington. The 18 year old ones that look 80. 

So maybe crack causes Autism, we'll never know. 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

I'm kind of honored that all these people I don't talk to on here want to ride my d!ck so much.....I'm not interested, but I'm flattered. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,252]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm kind of honored that all these people I don't talk to on here want to ride my d!ck so much.....I'm not interested, but I'm flattered. 

Typical Pedocrat response  

[jbycho 148]

15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm kind of honored that all these people I don't talk to on here want to ride my d!ck so much.....I'm not interested, but I'm flattered. 

You must not have much going on in your life. Seriously. 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

Up to 4 now

[Tree of Knowledge 1,414]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mooney likes to make fun of the autistic. Thinks it’s joke worthy.  

He’s a teacher?  That’s reprehensible.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,005]

Mooney once dm’d me 17 times in one hour. He’s a fockd up person, living in delusion.  

[gas 101]

Please don’t get vaccinated, MAGAts.  And don’t vaccinate your little MAGAettes.

[Death 89]

4 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If not, explain the insane rise in autistic children.

I have an autistic child, and there hasn't be a rise in the number of autistic children.

There has been an increase in diagnoses thanks to research and increased knowledge, leading to identifying autistic children who would not have been so 40 or so years ago.

Autism itself is a wide spectrum that stretches from Rain Man on one end to Elon Musk, Einstein, Bill Gates and Mozart on the other.

And autism resides on an even wider spectrum called pervasive development disorder, which also includes asperger's. 

The theory of vaccines causing autism were debunked decades ago.

[Drizzay 671]

Being "on the spectrum" is the new in thing.

[Death 89]

15 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

Being "on the spectrum" is the new in thing.

Not really. This goes back decades.

Saying something is the "new thing" is the new thing.

I'll take science, research and personal experience over politicizing such a thing.

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

11 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

He’s a teacher?  That’s reprehensible.  

HT is lying in that he thinks I was making fun of him when I asked him if he was autistic. I asked because I was curious based on his posting style. Lying- It's what he does. It's because he desperately wants me to fook him and I won't. He makes up stories then on top of it. Give him another post or two and the story about the DMs will keep changing. What he won't tell you is- it was a conversation between the two of us in private messages. He said something, I said something back. It isn't as if I sent 17 DMs in a row without being prompted. Now he changed it to 17 times in an hour- which isn't true. Give him another post or two and it will be 25 posts in an hour or some other nonsense. I have receipts on the DMs

He is a guy who cries about me "following him around on here" when I post about him on the board and yet even though I haven't really talked or engaged with him for like 2 months or so he still has to bring me up. And just to show- I'm done mentioning him here in this thread. He won't be able to stop himself. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,005]

Mooney is lying. He knows what happened. Sad. 

[Death 89]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

HT is lying in that he thinks I was making fun of him when I asked him if he was autistic. I asked because I was curious based on his posting style. Lying- It's what he does. It's because he desperately wants me to fook him and I won't. He makes up stories then on top of it. Give him another post or two and the story about the DMs will keep changing. What he won't tell you is- it was a conversation between the two of us in private messages. He said something, I said something back. It isn't as if I sent 17 DMs in a row without being prompted. Now he changed it to 17 times in an hour- which isn't true. Give him another post or two and it will be 25 posts in an hour or some other nonsense. I have receipts on the DMs

He is a guy who cries about me "following him around on here" when I post about him on the board and yet even though I haven't really talked or engaged with him for like 2 months or so he still has to bring me up. And just to show- I'm done mentioning him here in this thread. He won't be able to stop himself. 

Here's his M.O.:

1.) Make some totally fabricated statement.

2.) Refuses to back it up/claims he never made the statement.

3.) Gets proven wrong with actual facts.

4.) Dismisses the information source/gish gallops into another subject to redirect the conversation.

5.) Lather, rinse, repeat.

He claims Rusty is pro-World War I but doesn't back it up. Who the hell is pro-World War I? What does that even mean?

 

[Sean Mooney 1,776]

2 minutes ago, Death said:

Here's his M.O.:

1.) Make some totally fabricated statement.

2.) Refuses to back it up/claims he never made the statement.

3.) Gets proven wrong with actual facts.

4.) Dismisses the information source/gish gallops into another subject to redirect the conversation.

5.) Lather, rinse, repeat.

He claims Rusty is pro-World War I but doesn't back it up. Who the hell is pro-World War I? What does that even mean?

 

Before I just started skipping over his stuff I developed the HT posting cycle.

 

The HT posting cycle:

1.) Get called on something he said

2.) Deny it

3.) Get shown evidence of what he said

4.) Accuse person of being triggered and insult them and/or their manhood 

5.) Post some other nonsense trying to pretend like he is a better person than another poster

6.) Return to step 1

 

It's more fun to just skip past his posts though now and watch how much he brings me up. 

[IGotWorms 3,915]

11 hours ago, Drizzay said:

Being "on the spectrum" is the new in thing.

Kids these days *want* to be autistic for some focking reason. Same with ADHD and, yes, being trans. They think it makes them cool or interesting. Also gives them an excuse or victim card to fall back on.

It’s pretty ridiculous, tbh

[TheNewGirl 1,180]

IMO, they learned more about it and expanded the criteria for diagnosis to include more individuals. It's also a spectrum, so there are varying degrees. 

I've met a LOT of those on spectrum and they seem just like normal people, then I've met others who clearly have a disability. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,005]

In recognition of Mooney’s obvious fragile mental health I’ll allow his delusion to stand. As for Rusty, well that guy has a really shitt life. I’ll grant him a pass as well. 

[Cdub100 3,655]

I have a feeling a lot of things you normies believed to be true will get exposed as false. 

 

[Mike Honcho 4,648]

It's not vaccines, ya morons! It's chemtrails. 

[Reality 3,019]

We don't really know what causes autism but, it's definitely not vaccines. 

[jerryskids 6,095]

25 minutes ago, Reality said:

We don't really know what causes autism but, it's definitely not vaccines. 

For the record, I did not say anything to rule out the possibility that some vaccines could contribute to autism, but the premise of the OP is scientifically wrong.

I do believe that there is value in doing research on this subject to get to conclusive data.  If RFK does that, great.  If he comes in and goes scorched earth on vaccines, that would be terrible.

[jonmx 2,098]

21 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Vaccines do not cause autism. It is most likely a rise because mediciene has a better handle on what autism is and thus it is diagnosed more often- perhaps too much.

Here is an article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789217/

None of the studies done have shown any link between vaccines and autism.

But I guess it shows that man or woman- if a beautiful blonde chick with huge tells you something- people will believe anything

I am glad big pharma produced studies proving they are not liable for billions in damages.  

[jonmx 2,098]

32 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

For the record, I did not say anything to rule out the possibility that some vaccines could contribute to autism, but the premise of the OP is scientifically wrong.

I do believe that there is value in doing research on this subject to get to conclusive data.  If RFK does that, great.  If he comes in and goes scorched earth on vaccines, that would be terrible.

That is all he wants to do is to see if they are safe.  He is not against vaccines, but against the litany of vaccines which are being pushed on children with very minimal testing.  

[MDC 6,658]

13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

That is all he wants to do is to see if they are safe.  He is not against vaccines, but against the litany of vaccines which are being pushed on children with very minimal testing.  

Thirty years of studies and research haven’t found any link between vaccines and autism. Doesn’t RFKJ have anything better to do as head of HHS than chase down crackpot theories?

[Fnord 1,637]

Reaffirm to us how ignorant you are without actually saying it:

34 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I am glad big pharma produced studies proving they are not liable for billions in damages.